VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[HornyyPussy]

ohk , i'll update my meaning of incest then. never searched for it just interpreted from the mods here for other games

It differs a lot in the world but in most western countries and most states in the US being bloodrelated isn't a requirement for incest. Stepparents and siblings counts as well in most instances.

And Patreon (and by extension Visa, Mastercard etc) interpret it even wider and that is what is the standard for most of these VN's.

 

[UncleFredo]

It differs a lot in the world but in most western countries and most states in the US being bloodrelated isn't a requirement for incest. Stepparents and siblings counts as well in most instances.

And Patreon (and by extension Visa, Mastercard etc) interpret it even wider and that is what is the standard for most of these VN's.

Well no. In the USA it's not as black and white as you suggest.

It's legal for step siblings to marry in 49 of 50 US states.

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As long as they don't live in Virginia, no part of their relationship is illegal. In all but one state, step-siblings are legally free to get married. Virginia takes a different approach, and step-siblings cannot marry in the state even if their parents are no longer together. Under Virginia law, it makes no difference how long the parents have been divorced or even whether the couple ever lived together as step-siblings.

As for incest. Incest is more complex because the wording of incest laws in the 50 states varies. I am unable to provide a single link that give a definitive answer on what constitutes incest between step siblings.
There are some states where the wording suggests that sex between step siblings above the age of consent may be considered incest, however many state's incest laws with regard to step relationships focus on intergenerational step relations, for example parent or grandparent with a step child, and do not include sexual relations between step siblings if both are above the age of consent.

While sex between a step parent and a minor family member seems to be considered incest in all 50 states, once the step child is an adult, things get a lot murkier. However the opening sentence on marriage seems to indicate that outside Virginia, the ultimate resolution of the question of incest between adult step siblings is not incest "...no part of their relationship is illegal."

 

[HornyyPussy]

Well no. In the USA it's not as black and white as you suggest.

It's legal for step siblings to marry in 49 of 50 US states.

You must be registered to see the links

As long as they don't live in Virginia, no part of their relationship is illegal. In all but one state, step-siblings are legally free to get married. Virginia takes a different approach, and step-siblings cannot marry in the state even if their parents are no longer together. Under Virginia law, it makes no difference how long the parents have been divorced or even whether the couple ever lived together as step-siblings.

As for incest. Incest is more complex because the wording of incest laws in the 50 states varies. I am unable to provide a single link that give a definitive answer on what constitutes incest between step siblings.
There are some states where the wording suggests that sex between step siblings above the age of consent may be considered incest, however many state's incest laws with regard to step relationships focus on intergenerational step relations, for example parent or grandparent with a step child, and do not include sexual relations between step siblings if both are above the age of consent.

While sex between a step parent and a minor family member seems to be considered incest in all 50 states, once the step child is an adult, things get a lot murkier. However the opening sentence on marriage seems to indicate that outside Virginia, the ultimate resolution of the question of incest between adult step siblings is not incest "...no part of their relationship is illegal."

I think I prefer Patreons interpretation, it's a lot simpler

 

[CranberryJuice26]

I think I prefer Patreons interpretation, it's a lot simpler

Well, if you're going by Patreon's interpretation, and you earlier said that the game does have incest between Nami and the MC, then that would mean the game shouldn't be on Patreon right now.

Patreon has no interpretation detailed for their definition of incest in their community guidelines. So going by Patreon's "interpretation", the game does indeed not have any kind of incest.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Well, if you're going by Patreon's interpretation, and you earlier said that the game does have incest between Nami and the MC, then that would mean the game shouldn't be on Patreon right now.

Patreon has no interpretation detailed for their definition of incest in their community guidelines. So going by Patreon's "interpretation", the game does indeed not have any kind of incest.

Which is why the incest patch exists......

 

[Razrback16]

Which is why the incest patch exists......

Question on the incest patches for games like this...are they sort of 'unofficially' written by the author of the game and uploaded so as to look like they are by a third party or are they actually created by a third party fan who wanted incest in the game and took it upon themselves to tweak the dialogue?

In other words, I understand the authors have to officially state that games don't contain incest so as to comply with the Patreon ToS, but I am curious as to the validity of the incest patches in terms of actual game-canon once we get past the 'wink wink nudge nudge' stuff?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Question on the incest patches for games like this...are they sort of 'unofficially' written by the author of the game and uploaded so as to look like they are by a third party or are they actually created by a third party fan who wanted incest in the game and took it upon themselves to tweak the dialogue?

In other words, I understand the authors have to officially state that games don't contain incest so as to comply with the Patreon ToS, but I am curious as to the validity of the incest patches in terms of actual game-canon once we get past the 'wink wink nudge nudge' stuff?

Differs from game to game, many are most definitely written as incest but you need a patch to activate it to get around patreon. It's usually pretty obvious if a game is meant to have incest or not.

 

[Razrback16]

Differs from game to game, many are most definitely written as incest but you need a patch to activate it to get around patreon. It's usually pretty obvious if a game is meant to have incest or not.

What are your thoughts on this one? Intentional or not? I literally don't know, so that's why I am asking, not trolling ya or anything.

 

[HornyyPussy]

What are your thoughts on this one? Intentional or not? I literally don't know, so that's why I am asking, not trolling ya or anything.

At first I was sure we where gonna get some sexy time with our sister and mother but now? I'm not so sure anymore, i think Ocean said Mom was out of the lewd picture but Nami still in so I guess we will just have to see......

Don't really matter in the end since this game is amazing with or without incest, I just want Nami to be our sister

 

[CranberryJuice26]

What are your thoughts on this one? Intentional or not? I literally don't know, so that's why I am asking, not trolling ya or anything.

The story was initially written having MC and Nami as brother and sister and Maja and Victoria as sisters. But Ocean got shit by Patreon so he had to rewrite some stuff in the game. So yes, pretty much, the story was written with incest in mind.

 

[HornyyPussy]

The story was initially written having MC and Nami as brother and sister and Maja and Victoria as sisters. But Ocean got shit by Patreon so he had to rewrite some stuff in the game. So yes, pretty much, the story was written with incest in mind.

Isn't Maja and Victoria still sisters? Fuck my memory.....

 

[CranberryJuice26]

Isn't Maja and Victoria still sisters? Fuck my memory.....

On a very old version, they were. Now they're just "roomates".

 

[HornyyPussy]

On a very old version, they were. Now they're just "roomates".

And I replayed it like 2 weeks ago........urgh

Well, anywho, incest or no incest, it's still an amazing VN!

 

[CranberryJuice26]

And I replayed it like 2 weeks ago........urgh

Well, anywho, incest or no incest, it's still an amazing VN!

Indeed, it was still rewritten in a way that no incest makes sense, but you can definitely tell it was meant to be there lol.

 

[Razrback16]

At first I was sure we where gonna get some sexy time with our sister and mother but now? I'm not so sure anymore, i think Ocean said Mom was out of the lewd picture but Nami still in so I guess we will just have to see......

Don't really matter in the end since this game is amazing with or without incest, I just want Nami to be our sister

The story was initially written having MC and Nami as brother and sister and Maja and Victoria as sisters. But Ocean got shit by Patreon so he had to rewrite some stuff in the game. So yes, pretty much, the story was written with incest in mind.

Thanks to both of you - ya, I have always liked bro / sis stuff so I had hoped the Nami angle was legit but I've been unsure based on some of the discord commentary from Ocean and others.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Thanks to both of you - ya, I have always liked bro / sis stuff so I had hoped the Nami angle was legit but I've been unsure based on some of the discord commentary from Ocean and others.

There seems to be some contradictory things being said especially about Nami so we'll just have to wait and see i guess

 

[Warscared]

On a very old version, they were. Now they're just "roomates".

now they are cousins! Also in some unwritten particulary on the less used paths where nami states "our parents" and other such minimal stuff that as been removed from the most travelled path!

Another game that makes no sense without incest i Sunshine love! i am not an Incest suporter or enjoyer but sadly that one if you play without incest it makes absolutely no sense!

also love the twist that is being prepared ... which once again only makes sense with incest!

not my thing but if the story is good i will ignore it!

 

[UncleFredo]

WTF NOT EVEN I! well ... ffs! does that means that if i adopt a 12 year old and wait 6 years i can get myself a wife? seems prone to abuse... literally!

I'm not a lawyer and don't even play one on TV, but there are some states where the answer is almost certainly yes. Most of the incest laws are focused on blood relationships and preventing the exploitation of the under aged by adoptive and step adults.

So in some states, she turns 18, she may have to formally emancipate herself, and you're both free adults to do as you please. Like I said, once they're adults, if there's no blood relationship, it gets very very murky. However, you've better not have crossed any "lines" with her before she turns 18. IF the bloom comes off the rose and she can claim abuse as a child, your life will become very unpleasant.

 

[Donettes]

The story was initially written having MC and Nami as brother and sister and Maja and Victoria as sisters. But Ocean got shit by Patreon so he had to rewrite some stuff in the game. So yes, pretty much, the story was written with incest in mind.

Patreon forced the rewrite but both pairs are still siblings with the "unofficial patch" that some "evil modder" made.

 

[Lusikun]

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