PaxHadrian17

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If you are a Bella fan, this episode had a lot of emotional weight, all packed into the bibi scene and the very end.

Melanie C is going to get the 'Loving' attention she is owed for what she did to Bella, Zara, Mila and, I'm sure - some of the other women that the MC is getting to know.

I really enjoyed the overnight with Nami, Victoria and Mila - don't get me wrong.

This was very important for the MC to expand his comfort zone and the animation of the MC, Mila, Nami and Victoria on the couch was Smokin!

That was as sexy a make out scene as any I've seen in an AVN and honestly better than most on TV.

It was also great to learn so much more of the lore, even time with Aziz and his mom, Molly, was valuable for backstory.

As much I enjoy time with the other women though, Ocean has me sold on the Bella/MC relationship.

I got a tiny, but significant 'fix' with the two small Bella scenes.

The final scene before chapter end got to me and made me emotional - perfect way to tie the end of CH 4 to the end of CH 4.5 - Now I have to wait 4/5 months to see Bella and the MC... come on Spring!!

I LOVED the final render after the end of chapter - count the shoes and you know what I mean!!

All the other AVNs are going to be coming in as black and white for a while - I may have to play Mass Effect Legendary from the beginning to reset my expectations for the rest of the AVNs out there.

I can live with that!
 

ratttta

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Well, I feel justified for defending the game´s lack of sex...no sex scene would make up for how steamy that update was. sometimes teasing is hotter than the actuall thing.

Am I dissapointed that the update ended where it did? of course I was. that speaks volumes about how awesome the story is.

great Vic content, great Mila progression, great Nami everything...even the Bella stuff was great (not even a line of dialog and she still shines...best girl)

I love this game
 

The Glorious LIME

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As much I enjoy time with the other women though, Ocean has me sold on the Bella/MC relationship.
Same here, the other girls so far seem like great friends to have, and I'd like to help them if I can, but Bella is the one that actually pulled MC out of the gutter, lifted him up. In return, he is someone who understands the darkness and isn't afraid of her.

So overall,for me personally Bella is the narrative/canon choice. Wouldn't mind running a Maja and Sasha run some day when the game finishes.

Truth be told, I hate playing unfinished games, but SG just has everything going for it. It's worth the torture of not waiting till it's done, lol
 

noctarima

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I usually don't play games(at least not play with full focus) which games I believe will never have the "completed" tag in the foreseeable future (30 chapters planned, new half chapter every 3 months so 51 more more update which makes it roughly 12-13 years). I only have two exceptions for this and this game is one of them. I really, really, REALLY hope that I'm wrong about my assumptions. In terms of writing characters and developing them SG achieves more in just 4.5 chapters than other games do in 5-6 times the gameplay SG has. just wow. Keep doing what you're doing ocean. :coffee:
 

The Glorious LIME

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I usually don't play games(at least not play with full focus) which games I believe will never have the "completed" tag in the foreseeable future (30 chapters planned, new half chapter every 3 months so 51 more more update which makes it roughly 12-13 years). I only have two exceptions for this and this game is one of them. I really, really, REALLY hope that I'm wrong about my assumptions. In terms of writing characters and developing them SG achieves more in just 4.5 chapters than other games do in 5-6 times the gameplay SG has. just wow. Keep doing what you're doing ocean. :coffee:
First of, nice avatar! Liam, one of the best bros on this site :D
And what you say is true, same approach here. Mass Effect was mentioned earlier. Ocean did in 4.5 chapters more than Mass Effect: Andromeda did in 100 hours, lmao.
 

Razrback16

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It was a good update, a little tame if you are not on any of those girls route tho. Now we know what ZPR stand for. Some revelation about Sacha's background That she is rich as fuck and her family is part of the big three that own the college.

Also, is it me, or the scene with Aziz hint at something? His mother talk about his eyes and how beautiful they are, that it's a shame he's hiding them. And the close up shot of his jaw make him look lile the MC from WIAB. Dunno, just a thought.
That was the first scene that made me think that the MC is not actually the WIAB MC's son - it made me think Aziz might be, though - looks almost exactly like GigaChad MC from WIAB and the hiding of the eyes makes me wonder if he has heterochromia.

question about Nami
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This has generated some debate amongst the board. They are biological siblings as I see it - Meushi has explained in some earlier posts why a "ruse" has to be maintained to a degree for...reasons.

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And just some feedback for the Developer - Ocean does a fantastic job on the kissing animations. Even though I'm not on Nami's path I was able to check out that kissing scene via another save (thank you Old Man Al) - and Ocean just absolutely nails the romantic / meaningful kissing scenes. They look realistic and they feel even better to watch. Haven't seen a VN developer do it better, so great job Ocean! So looking forward to romantic sex scenes down the road that are more than just fucking.
 

Udayana

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Hi! That depends, "von" is the most common "Adelsprädikat" among some others like "zu". It can show royalty, but it is a general nobility marker.
From Ritter (Knight) upwards. Next are the Barons, which are rarely called this in Germany, Barons are typically called Freiherr/Freifrau/Freiin instead of Baron/Baroness. Then we have the Graf/Gräfin (Count/Countess) with several subdivisions such as Pfalzgraf. Next up are the Markgraf/Markgräfin (Margrave/Marquess), then the Herzog/Herzogin (Duke/Duchess). The Herzöge too have subdivisions (practically all other ranks too, this is just an overview), like Großherzog (Grand Duke) or Erzherzog (Archduke). A special branch is the Fürst/Fürstin which is called Prince/Princess in English, which is a fitting translation, but the nobility ranking differs between German and English ranking here. Then we have the Prinz/Prinzessin (Prince/Princess), the König/Königin (King/Queen) and finally the Kaiser/Kaiserin (Emperor/Empress).
Without Bella´s family rank making it clear, much is possible. I do not think her family to be among the uppermost ranks, because nearly all high nobility families are quite wellknown by name and she would be living in Germany or at least would return to Germany one day. Because if you are "old Blue", that is not in question. Even among the lower ranks this is the usual way. It might even become a topic in the story, if Bella is from old nobility.
Thank you for all the details. We have a similar hierarchy in France, except that there are no grand dukes nor archdukes, only dukes.

I've checked the script, there are a few places where Her Grace Bella is called "van Halen".
 

wejouh

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Hey guys, I've built a Mac version from the PC zip with Renpy 8.0.3, but I get this error message when I try to open the app:
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Any idea how to correct this?
If anyone comes across the same error, just launch the project from Renpy and it'll play without a hitch. I honestly don't know why did I bother with building distributions all this time when I could've just play like this.

Anyway, regarding the update: it's great!
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A question to you all regarding the ending: Did Bella show up with a smile only to the ones on her route, or did she do it regardless? Like in a friendly way? I'm curious but I just can't not go with her if I play the game again, so I'll never know playing the game lol.
I guess the mid-update cutscene is different then and she's not crying into MC's leftover clothes. Or is she..?
 
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