Razrback16

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Ok that's encouraging, I would actually love some slow burn romance if written well. If it is romance, I hope there is no harem tag in the future. And I most certainly don't want MC cheating on anyone. You mention multiple ladies, are we at a point where we actually chose someone yet? Or is it still in the friends with a hint of something more to come stage?

The 30 chapter with good writing seems extremely ambitious and I hope dev doesn't burn out, I will support him if I liked what I see, but obviously one person is not going to make much difference, when it's a number's game.
Not far enough along that there are committed relationships yet, but definitely relationship development and you're making choices on who to flirt with, pursue, kiss, etc.

This will be totally worth your time to at least give a shot on. I'll bet by the end of Chapter 2 or 3 you'll be all-in. That's how it goes for most. :)

Be advised Chapter 2 is undergoing a re-work to bring its quality up to par with the rest of the game so if you notice a significant downgrade in quality on Chapter 2 that's why.
 

stefanino

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Hey guys cheers and huge congratulations to the author on 4.5 so fast!
Is there an android mod already except for the one above? Cuz I don't know who's the poster or the blackeye and i'm not sure it'll be compatible with my previous saves ehh
I completely understand your point of view. This game has definitely opened my eyes to the production of VN. I find it hard to play a game where sex is the only thread. I really compare SG to a psychological adventure game for adults. A real story, deep characters, cliffhangers at the end of each episode... Great art and I'm looking forward to the sequel. So much so that I have given up on many other games, even good ones, because I don't find any taste in them anymore.
 

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Ok that's encouraging, I would actually love some slow burn romance if written well. If it is romance, I hope there is no harem tag in the future. And I most certainly don't want MC cheating on anyone. You mention multiple ladies, are we at a point where we actually chose someone yet? Or is it still in the friends with a hint of something more to come stage?

The 30 chapter with good writing seems extremely ambitious and I hope dev doesn't burn out, I will support him if I liked what I see, but obviously one person is not going to make much difference, when it's a number's game.
If you are looking to enjoy your Summers Gone experience without any confusion, you could choose to wait to play until Ocean publishes CH 5.

He is doing a rewrite of CH 2 which is changing paths and scenes, as well as polishing the early part of SG prior to going for a release on Steam (and a GOG release is also in the works).

CH 4.5 will be out in the next few weeks (prior to the end of Dec and, per Ocean, one more Dev diary coming before CH 4.5 goes final) and will contain the first half of the reworked CH 2.

Sadly, we are losing some Great music and some scenes are changing (animations tied to certain music) as Ocean is locking down licensing for all music ahead of the Steam/GOG release.

Ocean has said that there will Not be any harem options.

There will be some possible throuple options:

Victoria is compatible with most (perhaps all) of the other women who will consider a throuple (like Nami & Bella).

Others will only support a solo ending (like Zara and Sasha) although there are some threesome possibilities that may happen (as one off's or something more - who knows).

Ocean also said that there will still be relationship challenges to overcome even with the throuple scenarios - like one girl wants to spend more time with the MC but he is spending it with YYYY.

Everything I've seen says that Ocean is trying to build and show a world with relationships that avoid most to all of the typical porn tropes (like Noji, the MC's adopted Mom, is not a love interest and the MC is not banging 5 girls a day with no consequences).

The make out scene with the MC, Mila, Nami and Vic in CH 4.5 was as hot a make out scene as any I've seen in an AVN. The panic attack that the MC has later that evening/early morning also helps to keep it real.

The MC is still a broken man trying to climb out of a pit of despair and isolation - and Ocean does a great job making this one of the central premises of the early part of SG.

Each of us is only one supporter but as we donate (Patreon/SS), wishlist on Steam (once it is available for wishlisting), and share with friends - it all adds up to a better resourced Ocean and an even better SG experience.

I'll be gifting SG to a number of friends on Steam, including some who have never played any VN's before, another way to support if you have the means and like SG enough to share it via Steam.

I'd love SG to become popular enough that indie music artists who are included in SG actually start bragging that they are featured in SG and are actively collaborating to have their music become more intertwined with SG.

If anyone in the AVN community can do this, I think it's Ocean.
 

PaxHadrian17

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Is next update is about Bella and mc ?
I really hope so if it's about them and
Next update will come after next six months i think. right??
If anyone know how much average time ocean take for an update ???
Since CH 4.5 ended (for those on the Bella path) with a Bella visit, an MC/Bella meeting/conversation will likely start CH 5.

We know that Nia called to reschedule her visit with the MC from Sunday to Saturday so this will likely be a significant part of CH 5 as well.

Beyond that, it's hard to say since Ocean is still working on CH 4.5 Final.

Some other reasonable possibilities:

Zara calls to tell the MC to meet her for training.

She likes him and this gives her an excuse to spend time with him as well as test his resolve to train hard (which will help to show her he's worth her time and affection or he is not).

He also owes her an answer supporting the prank against Melanie C and this conversation where Bella confirms that Melanie C is a Bitch who deserves it could happen at the beginning of CH 5 (this could also include a chance for Bella to team with Zara and the MC to go after Melanie C - which could lead to some sexy bonding with both women in the future -- hey, a guy can hope! :)).

A possible cliff hanger could be when Ayua shows up at the end of CH 5 to spend time with Bella and the MC (regardless of the path, Bella kiss yes/no, Ayua asks Nami what makes the MC so special; she is both curious about the MC and happy for Bella).

Bella is one of Ayua's BFF's, along with Nadia, and she has to be back sometime Sunday for the sparring session with the MC so, if Bella leaves her weekend gathering early, Ayua could as well.

I see some Bella/MC content regardless, unless you are not on the Bella path.

CH 4.5 Beta was heavily focused on Vic, Mila and Nami but it still included two key Bella events - the Melanie C. reveal from middle school as well as Bella showing up at the end of CH 4.5.

She could be part of this next update in the same way.

In CH 5, Ocean is also implementing a phone with new capabilities that are not present in CH 4.5.

A video call with Bella (not sure if the phone can simulate this or not) or a phone call similar to the one between the MC and Bella when the MC was with Noji and Nami visiting Nick could certainly give us some reasonable time to build the Bella/MC relationship.

I could see the MC starting to text Bella and then she just calls him mid text and, when he comments that 'we were already talking via text' Bella could simply comment 'Now I get to hear you voice as we talk.'

I see many possibilities like this to build their relationship and I can see these sprinkled through those updates without a heavy focus on the MC/Bella or a major MC/Bella scene.

We'll know more once we start with Dev diaries for CH 5, with the first one likely hitting in Jan 2023 once CH 4.5 has gone final.

It's always good to remember that he is developing WIAB concurrently with SG so development may seem to be slow, but he is actually building two major AVNs simultaneously.
 

hahequ

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If you are looking to enjoy your Summers Gone experience without any confusion, you could choose to wait to play until Ocean publishes CH 5.

He is doing a rewrite of CH 2 which is changing paths and scenes, as well as polishing the early part of SG prior to going for a release on Steam (and a GOG release is also in the works).

CH 4.5 will be out in the next few weeks (prior to the end of Dec and, per Ocean, one more Dev diary coming before CH 4.5 goes final) and will contain the first half of the reworked CH 2.

Sadly, we are losing some Great music and some scenes are changing (animations tied to certain music) as Ocean is locking down licensing for all music ahead of the Steam/GOG release.

Ocean has said that there will Not be any harem options.

There will be some possible throuple options:

Victoria is compatible with most (perhaps all) of the other women who will consider a throuple (like Nami & Bella).

Others will only support a solo ending (like Zara and Sasha) although there are some threesome possibilities that may happen (as one off's or something more - who knows).

Ocean also said that there will still be relationship challenges to overcome even with the throuple scenarios - like one girl wants to spend more time with the MC but he is spending it with YYYY.

Everything I've seen says that Ocean is trying to build and show a world with relationships that avoid most to all of the typical porn tropes (like Noji, the MC's adopted Mom, is not a love interest and the MC is not banging 5 girls a day with no consequences).

The make out scene with the MC, Mila, Nami and Vic in CH 4.5 was as hot a make out scene as any I've seen in an AVN. The panic attack that the MC has later that evening/early morning also helps to keep it real.

The MC is still a broken man trying to climb out of a pit of despair and isolation - and Ocean does a great job making this one of the central premises of the early part of SG.

Each of us is only one supporter but as we donate (Patreon/SS), wishlist on Steam (once it is available for wishlisting), and share with friends - it all adds up to a better resourced Ocean and an even better SG experience.

I'll be gifting SG to a number of friends on Steam, including some who have never played any VN's before, another way to support if you have the means and like SG enough to share it via Steam.

I'd love SG to become popular enough that indie music artists who are included in SG actually start bragging that they are featured in SG and are actively collaborating to have their music become more intertwined with SG.

If anyone in the AVN community can do this, I think it's Ocean.
Stop with the hype, how am I supposed to wait for the next update??
Also 30~chapters goal? holy shit (Although anything can happen in that time, I just hope this game will stay this strong till the end)
Did Ocean reveal the price of the game on steam?
 

PaxHadrian17

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Stop with the hype, how am I supposed to wait for the next update??
Also 30~chapters goal? holy shit (Although anything can happen in that time, I just hope this game will stay this strong till the end)
Did Ocean reveal the price of the game on steam?
No pricing revealed yet. Ocean said that he was waiting for Steam to approve his SG store. I'm taking that to mean buying season 1 (CH 1- 5) and, given what other creators are doing, also including a 'buy the soundtrack' option.

In the case of SG - it has an Awesome soundtrack so I think it could be a very popular option for purchase, something I've never been interested in buying for a PC game on Steam.
 

JeanRandom

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Just read that Maja is not anymore planned as LI... well i'm not waiting anything anymore about this game i guess :illuminati:
Anyway not like we had a chance to see something else than bella for like 10 years (reworks not included) :KEK: So whatever :giggle:

Happy waiting to everyone !
 

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No pricing revealed yet. Ocean said that he was waiting for Steam to approve his SG store. I'm taking that to mean buying season 1 (CH 1- 5) and, given what other creators are doing, also including a 'buy the soundtrack' option.

In the case of SG - it has an Awesome soundtrack so I think it could be a very popular option for purchase, something I've never been interested in buying for a PC game on Steam.
It's too easy to extract the audio from a Ren'Py game for me to consider buying a soundtrack. I will pick up the game on GOG, but I don't think I will ever buy a soundtrack.

The extracted audio from 3.5:
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Since CH 4.5 ended (for those on the Bella path) with a Bella visit, an MC/Bella meeting/conversation will likely start CH 5.

We know that Nia called to reschedule her visit with the MC from Sunday to Saturday so this will likely be a significant part of CH 5 as well.

Beyond that, it's hard to say since Ocean is still working on CH 4.5 Final.

Some other reasonable possibilities:

Zara calls to tell the MC to meet her for training.

She likes him and this gives her an excuse to spend time with him as well as test his resolve to train hard (which will help to show her he's worth her time and affection or he is not).

He also owes her an answer supporting the prank against Melanie C and this conversation where Bella confirms that Melanie C is a Bitch who deserves it could happen at the beginning of CH 5 (this could also include a chance for Bella to team with Zara and the MC to go after Melanie C - which could lead to some sexy bonding with both women in the future -- hey, a guy can hope! :)).

A possible cliff hanger could be when Ayua shows up at the end of CH 5 to spend time with Bella and the MC (regardless of the path, Bella kiss yes/no, Ayua asks Nami what makes the MC so special; she is both curious about the MC and happy for Bella).

Bella is one of Ayua's BFF's, along with Nadia, and she has to be back sometime Sunday for the sparring session with the MC so, if Bella leaves her weekend gathering early, Ayua could as well.

I see some Bella/MC content regardless, unless you are not on the Bella path.

CH 4.5 Beta was heavily focused on Vic, Mila and Nami but it still included two key Bella events - the Melanie C. reveal from middle school as well as Bella showing up at the end of CH 4.5.

She could be part of this next update in the same way.

In CH 5, Ocean is also implementing a phone with new capabilities that are not present in CH 4.5.

A video call with Bella (not sure if the phone can simulate this or not) or a phone call similar to the one between the MC and Bella when the MC was with Noji and Nami visiting Nick could certainly give us some reasonable time to build the Bella/MC relationship.

I could see the MC starting to text Bella and then she just calls him mid text and, when he comments that 'we were already talking via text' Bella could simply comment 'Now I get to hear you voice as we talk.'

I see many possibilities like this to build their relationship and I can see these sprinkled through those updates without a heavy focus on the MC/Bella or a major MC/Bella scene.

We'll know more once we start with Dev diaries for CH 5, with the first one likely hitting in Jan 2023 once CH 4.5 has gone final.

It's always good to remember that he is developing WIAB concurrently with SG so development may seem to be slow, but he is actually building two major AVNs simultaneously.
What catches my attention is the implementation of the telephone, can it be used and interact with it?
 

Vopeco

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Not confirmed, but would have thought it obvious. At the very least a "Dude, we need to talk..."
Yea maybe. Guess we'll just have to wait for more info on Chapter 5. It'll probably depend on how much time or content Ocean has planned for Bella and Nia, and if anything else comes up with another girl for the MC on that day.

I'm a Nami guy all the way - so I'd be wondering where the hell she is like some of the Bella fans were doing last update. Unfortunately for me not many others in SG have piqued my interest quite like my main girl - contrast to WIAB where at least a handful of the girls did pique my interest right away - but I support for SG since I think it's the better game.

The game right now though appears to be going in the direction of branching out more I think(to include more of the LI's) - while at the same time things appear to be getting a bit more serious with at least a few of the routes we have already so I do wonder how it will all be handled by Ocean with each update. Also how the GF/lover/dating experience will be handled once it has been established with someone - since this is mostly a 1 on 1 romance game - as opposed to harem - and since it appears to be getting much closer to that point with Nami and Bella - and Mila too maybe? I don't know since I haven't played her route really.

I heard someone else say that Bella will be included in each update going forward at least a lot or a little but don't know if they're correct(we know for sure she will be in Chapter 5 though). If that's true or confirmed, I don't see why that wouldn't also be the case for the Cheeto since her route is a bit further along too like Bella's and getting more serious - with a kiss and feelings from both sides being pretty much established and sorta(?) out of the way.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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It's too easy to extract the audio from a Ren'Py game for me to consider buying a soundtrack. I will pick up the game on GOG, but I don't think I will ever buy a soundtrack.

The extracted audio from 3.5:
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I understand where you are coming from but there are a lot of Steam users who are not as sophisticated as you. They will likely opt to just spend a little $ and get the soundtrack to enjoy as they wish.
 

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Yea maybe. Guess we'll just have to wait for more info on Chapter 5. I'm a Nami guy all the way - so I'd be wondering where the hell she is like some of the Bella fans were doing last update. Unfortunately, for me not many others in SG have piqued my interest quite like my main girl - contrast to WIAB where at least a handful of the girls did pique my interest right away - but I support for SG since I think it's the better game.

The game right now though appears to be going in the direction of branching out more I think(to include more of the LI's) - while at the same time things appear to be getting a bit more serious with at least a few of the routes we have already so I do wonder how it will all be handled by Ocean with each update. Also how the GF/lover/dating experience will be handled once it has been established with someone - since this is mostly a 1 on 1 romance game - as opposed to harem - and since it appears to be getting much closer to that point with Nami and Bella - and Mila too maybe? I don't know since I haven't played her route really.

I heard someone else say that Bella will be included in each update going forward at least a lot or a little but don't know if they're correct(we know for sure she will be in Chapter 5 though). If that's true or confirmed, I don't see why that wouldn't also be the case for the Cheeto since her route is a bit further along too like Bella's and getting more serious - with a kiss and feelings from both sides pretty much established and kinda(?) out of the way.
I think that Nami will continue to be involved in every chapter in some fashion. Whether she is an active LI for the MC or 'just' someone he can count on and trust, she will be there. She may even get involved in a therapy session with Amber due to a minor reveal when the MC decides to take a walk with her in CH 4.5.

That conversation was cryptic, but it seems like Nami has a part in why the MC acts out the way he does - lack of impulse control. Hopefully we will get more back story about this part of their past in CH 5.
 
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raikkou

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I already kinda joked to myself that I was playing as knockoff Sasuke, the cool and collected but brooding, wannabe badass, chick-magnet but not interested type of guy. Then this mf hits me with the
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It was then I realized. I've unlocked the Sharingan.
 

Vittelalpine

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The premise of the game looks interesting and I want to try it out. But I have a question after reading so many reviews that mention the lack of sexual content.

How is it handled? Is the lack of sexual content because it's a slow burn romance? That would be great if it's handled well. Is it realistic, looking at the tags is there an actual reason why they haven't gone all the way? How slow is the progress of the romance?

Or is it because it is an implied off the screen fade to black type situation ?
Theres no allusions or implications of sex. Theres no intercourse at all. The cloest it gets at the moment is when one of the characters rub her ass cheeck on your cock.
 

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WIAB new dev log

I'll copy this part that is revelant to SG as well:

At the moment I have two PCs and something that looks like a PC.
In the future, I want to only set up scenes on one single PC. WiAB and SG will go onto the same PC.
Then I will get another three PCs. (I already have two.)
One of them is completely dedicated to rendering stills. The other two render animations.
But everything will be set up on the main PC.
So, in the future, we'll have one main PC and three Slave PCs to increase productivity.

I'm currently producing the Steam Trailer for Summer's Gone. (Apparently I need one for Steam.)
And it just takes forever... All 3 PCs were on this and it took 5 days to set up and render 10 animations.
That's too long. Slave PCs are the way to go with animations.

Sometime in 2022, I will buy an absolute goddess of a workstation. This will be the main PC for setting up and rendering at the end of the day.
My currently used two PCs will become Slave PCs.
The third animation PC I can barely use will retire. (Its insides are from 2015 and got a 2080Ti, which only has 11GB VRAM.)
Also SG will almost certainly switch to 4k as well.
 

Vopeco

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She may even get involved in a therapy session with Amber due to a minor reveal when the MC decides to take a walk with her in CH 4.5.

That conversation was cryptic, but it seems like Nami has a part in why the MC acts out the way he does - lack of impulse control. Hopefully we will get more back story about this part of their past in CH 5.
Absolutely that reveal hit even harder with the music! 4.5 was really a rollercoaster of emotions with all that went on!

I was thinking the same after Nami said she would do Amber sessions if that would really help the MC. Would be cool to get to the bottom of that reveal with Nami in an Amber session(s) - but they'd probably come after the weekend(after Chapter 5). I really do like how this game tries to tackle the subject of mental illness - loss and depression - and healing.

I think that Nami will continue to be involved in every chapter in some fashion. Whether she is an active LI for the MC or 'just' someone he can count on and trust, she will be there.
Here's to hoping you're correct. That has really been the formula so far all the way through 4.5. The Cheeto is either there a little - a medium amount or a lot. Depending if things kinda revolved around her - or you could pick her route out of several possible routes - or there's some other social event. I certainly think this has been a decent formula so far - will have to wait to see what Ocean plans next though as the game branches out.
 
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