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Chuck_Bass

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I played this game for a few minutes and I hate the MC already, such a cliché of a depressed tortured soul turned bitter, edgy and angry because his girlfriend died, disappeared, kidnapped or whatever. It's been 5 years you fucking pussy, get over it you little spoiled emo excrement.

The visuals and the sound are great tho. I'll try to push on despite the human waste of an MC.
 

Tincho_SI

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The Mc is trying to get out of the depression, if you read while playing he even said he hate his mindset. Getting over depression is not so easy, hope you never got to see or feel what it could do to a person. The most important thing, the Mc have the will to change a became a better person...
 

Kassandara

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Oh, I understand trauma and mental issues better than most, having an alcoholic parent and serving in the military will fuck with your head.
5 years of depression because of your high school sweetheart, like the MC, is just pathetic.
I see what you mean but I feel like it's not that simple.
People react to shit like this in different ways and clearly the disappearance of Summer affected MCs mental health drastically and he is suffering from some sort of trauma.
 
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Oh, I understand trauma and mental issues better than most, having an alcoholic parent and serving in the military will fuck with your head.
5 years of depression because of your high school sweetheart, like the MC, is just pathetic.
I really feel you man. I just got done playing a VN where the MC had trauma and mental issues due to having an alcoholic parent and serving in the military. It was just pathetic.
 

Chuck_Bass

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I just got done playing a VN where the MC had trauma and mental issues due to having an alcoholic parent and serving in the military.
I don't know, Unbroken is a great VN and the MC got plenty of PTSD, but he is not a pathetic looser/edgy and angry teen.
But yeah, kids with alcoholic parents are a huge pain in the ass, I would not like to play with that MC ether.
 

yossa999

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I don't know, Unbroken is a great VN and the MC got plenty of PTSD, but he is not a pathetic looser/edgy and angry teen.
But yeah, kids with alcoholic parents are a huge pain in the ass, I would not like to play with that MC ether.
What's the Unbroken MC's age? It's about 25 to 30, if I recall it correctly, right? He has a lot of life experience, he knows how to cope with losses, he fought in a war or in some kind of armed conflict, I don’t remember exactly. He also helps out at the military rehabilitation center, where you see a lot of people who haven't been lucky enough to deal with their problems on their own, right?
And you compare him to a teenage boy who lost his first and only true love and nearly died himself (Aqualia hospital, collapsed lung). And you don't even take into account that it's not just his teen age and lack of experience, but the hormonal response, every feeling at this age is felt very intense due to the natural chemistry of the body.
But despite all this, he understands that he is broken, trying to cope with the loss, become normal and heal. And not only does he accept the problem, he takes actions and constantly pushes himself to his goal. Moreover, he helps others to heal, Vic for example. In my book it's anything but pathetic.
 

Chuck_Bass

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Guys, just don't feed the troll.

He didn't even realize that it happened when they were 12... so, why wasting your time?
I disagree with him so he must be a troll!!! Whaaaaa :cry::cry:

Either your math skills suck or the game got serious plot holes, if he was 12 and it happened 5 years ago, he would be in high school, not collage and no bar in the US will serve him alcohol even at 18(which happened in the game).
And it's even more pathetic to be so broken over a teenage crush.

What's the Unbroken MC's age? It's about 25 to 30, if I recall it correctly, right? He has a lot of life experience, he knows how to cope with losses, he fought in a war or in some kind of armed conflict, I don’t remember exactly. He also helps out at the military rehabilitation center, where you see a lot of people who haven't been lucky enough to deal with their problems on their own, right?
And you compare him to a teenage boy who lost his first and only true love and nearly died himself (Aqualia hospital, collapsed lung). And you don't even take into account that it's not just his teen age and lack of experience, but the hormonal response, every feeling at this age is felt very intense due to the natural chemistry of the body.
But despite all this, he understands that he is broken, trying to cope with the loss, become normal and heal. And not only does he accept the problem, he takes actions and constantly pushes himself to his goal. Moreover, he helps others to heal, Vic for example. In my book it's anything but pathetic.
Valentine is 27, and according to what the game hints, he got several of his friends killed in from of him, and his best friend actions led to the love of his life getting killed in front of him(the woman that talks to him in his "dreams/thoughts") and in his childhood he witnessed Vi(The "little sister") attacked in front of him(How she got her scares) and he somehow feels responsible for it. All that before he turned 23 if I remember correctly. So yeah, the MC in Unbroken had it a little(just a little) worse and yet he is not acting like a total pathetic looser who can't get a boner without thinking about his childhood crush.
 

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I disagree with him so he must be a troll!!! Whaaaaa :cry::cry:

Either your math skills suck or the game got serious plot holes, if he was 12 and it happened 5 years ago, he would be in high school, not collage and no bar in the US will serve him alcohol even at 18(which happened in the game).
And it's even more pathetic to be so broken over a teenage crush.


Valentine is 27, and according to what the game hints, he got several of his friends killed in from of him, and his best friend actions led to the love of his life getting killed in front of him(the woman that talks to him in his "dreams/thoughts") and in his childhood he witnessed Vi(The "little sister") attacked in front of him(How she got her scares) and he somehow feels responsible for it. All that before he turned 23 if I remember correctly. So yeah, the MC in Unbroken had it a little(just a little) worse and yet he is not acting like a total pathetic looser who can't get a boner without thinking about his childhood crush.
If you don't like MC, then just don't play for him. What is the problem?
If all the MC were like you want, then all the games would be twins:(
 

Chuck_Bass

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If you don't like MC, then just don't play for him. What is the problem?
If all the MC were like you want, then all the games would be twins:(
Sure. Just shared my thoughts about the game, specifically the MC.
Apart from that, the game is actually not that bad(especially in the visual department)
 
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I disagree with him so he must be a troll!!! Whaaaaa :cry::cry:

Either your math skills suck or the game got serious plot holes, if he was 12 and it happened 5 years ago, he would be in high school, not collage and no bar in the US will serve him alcohol even at 18(which happened in the game).
And it's even more pathetic to be so broken over a teenage crush.


Valentine is 27, and according to what the game hints, he got several of his friends killed in from of him, and his best friend actions led to the love of his life getting killed in front of him(the woman that talks to him in his "dreams/thoughts") and in his childhood he witnessed Vi(The "little sister") attacked in front of him(How she got her scares) and he somehow feels responsible for it. All that before he turned 23 if I remember correctly. So yeah, the MC in Unbroken had it a little(just a little) worse and yet he is not acting like a total pathetic looser who can't get a boner without thinking about his childhood crush.
You're comparing apples with oranges.
Cal Valentine is a young veteran with some ptsd.
Summer's Gone MC is
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Frowster

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Either your math skills suck or the game got serious plot holes, if he was 12 and it happened 5 years ago, he would be in high school, not collage and no bar in the US will serve him alcohol even at 18(which happened in the game).
This - and some other things, like getting detention in college - is explained by option #3:

Forget the old WiAB.
Nothing in there has any relevance for the future.

The games now play in a fictional world. (No US or Europe). I want to be able to make my own rules, but I adopted traits of the US and Europe.
The post mentions another game, but it's set in the same universe as SG so it applies here as well.

Admittedly, the game doesn't make it clear that this is a fictional universe, what with references to real-world places like Iran, the New York plates on Bella's car or Nadia asking Sonya this:

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...which I've pointed out earlier in the thread.

As for the MC... you're not alone in thinking that he's too hung up on Summer. For example, look what this lovely person says:

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But it doesn't work like that. Anyone can suffer from depression, but some are more susceptible to it than others and people handle it differently. The MC is quite the loner and an introvert, more prone to isolation, dwelling on the past, self-damning thoughts and circular patterns of dark, brooding introspection which all lead to more sadness and a sense of guilt and failure. He's tried to break out of this vicious circle, he is ready and willing to move on, but his problems are so deep-rooted that his subconscious actively sabotages the attempts he makes:

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I suggest you keep playing and you'll see that there is much more to him than just a whiny kid. He displays strength of character, empathy, is sharp and observant (and a jerk at times) and he gradually finds other things to think and care about, even though the cloud of Summer's disapperance continues to hang over him.

Chapter 5 will likely provide crucial information on what went down at the cabin that fateful night.
 

yossa999

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Valentine is 27, and according to what the game hints, he got several of his friends killed in from of him, and his best friend actions led to the love of his life getting killed in front of him(the woman that talks to him in his "dreams/thoughts") and in his childhood he witnessed Vi(The "little sister") attacked in front of him(How she got her scares) and he somehow feels responsible for it. All that before he turned 23 if I remember correctly. So yeah, the MC in Unbroken had it a little(just a little) worse and yet he is not acting like a total pathetic looser who can't get a boner without thinking about his childhood crush.
I've replayed it a million times since the beginning, and the exact timing is still confusing in my head. Perhaps this is because the first chapter was reworked and some small details were changed in the backstory, but it does not matter. I believe the MC is around 18-20 years old when the game starts and the incident with Summer happened six years before. So it's safe to assume that he was 12-14 years old when incident with his girlfriend happened. Yes, you're comparing an inexperienced schoolboy to a young adult who has gone through the military service. Yet Valentine spent a lot of time drowning his grief and pain in alcohol and one-night stands, before he found his new self.

Another point. Either you didn't play the game until at least chapter 3, or you didn't notice that he told Amber that Summer is someone he loved more than his own life. She's a bit more that just "his childhood crush". He described himself as a weird kid, never laughing, stone cold, always trapped in his thoughts. Summer certainly had a huge meaning in his life, which is why he reacted so sharply to her loss.

Back to the present time in the game. The MC finally realized that he was broken and that he needed to overcome his fears and insecurities. He starts pushing himself towards healing, making great progress in less than a week, he doesn't hesitate to accept help from Nami and Amber and even Bella, everything he has is aimed towards achieving his goal. Everyone around admits that he has changed for the better. Sometimes he acts like an inexperienced young idiot, I think it's because he's inexperienced and young :) But in general, there is nothing of a loser about him. He is a strong and determined person, who had a very powerful knockout but he managed to pull himself together and get up before ten.

And you're not the first person who's calling him edgelord or something, fortunately you can read MC's own answer: "There were.. quite a few girls that pursued me.. I think they found me edgy or some shit like that.. I think it was the fact that I didn't give a fuck." He is not playing an edgelord he's just the way he is.
 

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Admittedly, the game doesn't make it clear that this is a fictional universe, what with references to real-world places like Iran, the New York plates on Bella's car or Nadia asking Sonya this:

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I think Ocean made the decision to make "own universe" for his games after these references to states were in the game, so I think they'll get removed by the time season 1 is finished. Don't quote me on that tho :KEK:
 
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