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That was exactly my point with all this.
While the MC cries about some little cut on his finger, people with real trauma(like loosing an arm for example) deal with it better and see thing proportionally.
It's not being depressed, it's called being spoiled and entitled.
MC witnessed his girlfriend being ripped away from him, never to be seen again, in a horrific incident(one that required him to be rushed to the hospital). Something like that would traumatize grown adults, let alone a child.
 
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JamesM81

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Nope, I was just talking about looking at things and reacting to things with proportion and not being a pro victim.
Goddamn you went hard on the MC huh? Honestly I think that other than his default name, which is a vomit inducing aberration that makes me wanna rip my eyes out whenever I read it here, the MC is pretty dope. Dude is a soldier powering through. If that were me I would have pulled the plug way before I got to college age. Either he secretly enjoys the suffering or he is a resilient sob. Either way props to him. He pulled through and now gets to bang dozens of hot women falling at his feet.

Edit: This might not be the game for you though. Playing through a game where you hate the MC is really, really hard imo.
 

KekWGgWP

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Nope, I was just talking about looking at things and reacting to things with proportion and not being a pro victim.
Humans are different in every way, we are not the same especially if we talk about the mental state and this can change with time.
Some of us are tougher and some of us are weaker when comes to this things.

Therefore, you can't decide what kind of traumas can affect someone and how much, just because you don't consider losing your loved ones as not a being deal it doesn't mean this wouldn't affect someone else, someone who is more weak willed for example.

Maybe MC has a sensible mental resistance and he can be prone to traumas much more than others, keep in mind that MC is an orphan also which can play a factor for his mental state, there can be other factors too that plays a role like bullying and other unfortunate events that could have happened during his childhood.

You don't have to like MC and you are not forced to feel related to him if you can't, you just have to keep in mind some things before criticizing the character.
You can also not play the game if you are so bothered by the MC, maybe it's just not a game for you.
 
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fan art model of summer from my work on a new ultimate fan fiction Visual novel to learn more about my work check out my patreon page and leave a comment with some of your favorite Visual novel characters
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That's not "Fan Art". You just cut her out of my work in Photoshop...

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That's not "Fan Art". You just cut her out of my work in Photoshop...

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I guess you're not going to appreciate my "Summers Gone 4.5 beta" Tribute game then. Damn shame.
 

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That's not "Fan Art". You just cut her out of my work in Photoshop...

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I apologize that my actions have harmed or offended you and your work that was not my intention there is no stolen/borrowed art in my work all renders/models will be originals however they may be based off of existing models. as for the "fan art" i did not use an original render i used a screen shot as the base and made a cutout with a browser editing software manually cutting it out it the whole process took >1hr as i had to go down to the pixel lvl even then there are still minor blemishes however none of this justifies the act and regrect my actions
 

BobTheDuck

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That was exactly my point with all this.
While the MC cries about some little cut on his finger, people with real trauma(like loosing an arm for example) deal with it better and see thing proportionally.
It's not being depressed, it's called being spoiled and entitled.
There's nothing relevant you can say about whether someone else's trauma is 'real' or meaningful (even if they're a fictional character). If something has an effect on an individual it is real for them because it derails or stagnates their life. Shaming other people's experiences of what constitutes 'real' trauma based on your own belief system is entitled, as is deciding how much resilience should be a base requisite for each individual. Life isn't an RPG where you get to roll character stats. No one starts life with skills, everyone has their own mountains to climb, and they develop their own coping mechanisms.

Stories teach empathy, to see the world through different perspectives. It is how we learn to relate to people whose experience is different from our own. We can't judge what someone else is going through (because emotional and mental states are hidden like an iceberg), only understand the meaning and relevance to the person experiencing those circumstances, whatever their conclusions or reactions will be.

Resilience comes from surviving events and understanding why they happened. In this story we still have no understanding of why, and that is a signficant part of the MC's trauma. We still don't even know the full extent of what happened to him, so it is impossible to even guess why. Currently, he has to decide whether or not to move on without reconciliation, without closure.

This is primarily a story about the MC developing the resilience to move forward and character building; he hasn't yet found his strength. If you are offended by a character learning to socialise and develop resilience, there's plenty of other stories to go around with different plots that you might find more relevant.
 

PaxHadrian17

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That was exactly my point with all this.
While the MC cries about some little cut on his finger, people with real trauma(like loosing an arm for example) deal with it better and see thing proportionally.
It's not being depressed, it's called being spoiled and entitled.
Yup - paper cut...
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I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV But... I can't imagine a little cut on a finger causing both of the MC's lungs to collapse. This is the 'real trauma' you described. Add to that Summer's disappearance (we don't know how violent it was for Summer nor do we know if she was raped and or killed in front of the MC) and the impact on the MC since he was roughly 13 when all this happened (which means that he did not have the life experience to better rebound from this trauma) and we have:

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So - you are either someone who lacks empathy for the real pain of others OR you are someone who sped through this great VN, missing key details, then complaining about the story's MC.

You can continue to rail about the MC no matter what others who pay more attention to the story lines of Summers Gone tell you - it is your right. Just don't expect to be taken seriously when you ignore parts of the story to try to make your point.

Other than the assassination of your husband Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play...
 
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Chuck_Bass

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Some of us are tougher and some of us are weaker when comes to this things.
Dah! That's exactly my point with all this, the MC is presented as a pathetic weakling.
I guess it's a little personal for me when I see people or characters like this wipe their ass with the terms trauma, PTSD, and depression and mocking people who went through some real shit.
 

BobTheDuck

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Dah! That's exactly my point with all this, the MC is presented as a pathetic weakling.
I guess it's a little personal for me when I see people or characters like this wipe their ass with the terms trauma, PTSD, and depression and mocking people who went through some real shit.
I don't think anyone is concerned that you think the MC is a weakling. That's your prerogative. I think the idea that some traumas are worthy of being called real and some aren't is what people are surprised by. Trauma isn't usually a badge people wear to show off how strong they are. Glad you've survived what circumstances were in your life, but not everyone else has survived their circumstances - give people (and characters) the chance to find their own resolutions.

It actually feels like you're mocking/belittling other people's traumas as being insignificant because they don't mirror your expectations or experiences or meet your criteria of being a 'real' trauma.
 

yossa999

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Dah! That's exactly my point with all this, the MC is presented as a pathetic weakling.
I guess it's a little personal for me when I see people or characters like this wipe their ass with the terms trauma, PTSD, and depression and mocking people who went through some real shit.
Oh man, now I finally get what you're so angry about. That brutal joke in the gym, "Where is Vic? She's in a wheelchair.". Yeah, a pathetic weakling it is.
 
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