Chuck_Bass

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I don't think anyone is concerned that you think the MC is a weakling. That's your prerogative. I think the idea that some traumas are worthy of being called real and some aren't is what people are surprised by. Trauma isn't usually a badge people wear to show off how strong they are. Glad you've survived what circumstances were in your life, but not everyone else has survived their circumstances - give people (and characters) the chance to find their own resolutions.

It actually feels like you're mocking/belittling other people's traumas as being insignificant because they don't mirror your expectations or experiences or meet your criteria of being a 'real' trauma.
That might be it, but after my time in the army and being in contact with some people who dealt with some harsh stuff, a pre-teen crush who, for what we know, got abducted by aliens or just ran away, it just seems trivial and meaningless.

And BTW I finished ch. 4.5 yesterday, and I have to say, the game got some pretty fucking great visuals. If the story was about an adult in his 30s who lost his girlfriend/wife of 10 years for example, it would make much more sense to me.
 
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Dah! That's exactly my point with all this, the MC is presented as a pathetic weakling.
I guess it's a little personal for me when I see people or characters like this wipe their ass with the terms trauma, PTSD, and depression and mocking people who went through some real shit.
Seem like you love Gary Stu, If you are not able to accept the weakness of a character and come to judge him without even coming to know the why or the how, it's like you did not understand anything of the writing of a story the events having caused his trauma knowing that nobody at the moment has an exact idea of the events but to have ended up losing his childhood love and end in a hospital with a collapsed lung at the age of 11 - 12 years I do not know you but personally I think already that it is traumatic enough without even mentioning the fact of the potential kidnapping theories and human trafficking which are discussed because of the potential gangs like Krayt, if you come to play the second game in the same universe its prequel WIAB
 

BobTheDuck

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That might be it, but after my time in the army and being in contact with some people who dealt with some harsh stuff, a pre-teen crush who, for what we know, got abducted by aliens or just ran away, it just seems trivial and meaningless.

And BTW I finished ch. 4.5 yesterday, and I have to say, the game got some pretty fucking great visuals. If the story was about an adult in his 30s who lost his girlfriend/wife of 10 years for example, it would make much more sense to me.
Everyone's stuff is harsh to them because we're all looking out of our own skulls trying to make sense of a messy world. I guess we all find the stories that resonate to us.

Bella's trauma also isn't explained yet, neither is the teachers. I get the sense that Ocean will tie a lot of it together, as 30 chapters at the current pace needs evrything to be connected or it will spiral into an unfocused plot. There's still so much of the story yet to be told, but hopefully we won't have the alien excuse. I would feel pretty cheated by the story if Ocean pulled the abducted by aliens card too. Until we know how the the MC got hosptialised with collapsed lungs, I'm going to wait to see what the actual situation was first. In the devil's advocate position, the violent incident that hospitalised him might not even correlate to Summer's absence, it could simply be he got into serious brawling as his way of dealing with life, maybe crossed with the remnants of the gangs mentioned in the original WIAB. But my bet is the violent incident is tied in.

And agreed, the visuals are fantastic, I'm looking forward to the remade parts.
 

Frowster

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In the devil's advocate position, the violent incident that hospitalised him might not even correlate to Summer's absence, it could simply be he got into serious brawling as his way of dealing with life, maybe crossed with the remnants of the gangs mentioned in the original WIAB. But my bet is the violent incident is tied in.
I also think that the violent incident that landed the MC in hospital may be unrelated to Summer. We're not given any context for it; Nami just mentions it and then the MC has the flashbacks from which we learn that he was seriously injured, but there is nothing to indicate how or when it happened.

During the sessions with Amber we find out that the MC would frequently get into fights at school as a way of coping with his anger. That hasn't really changed since then. I mean...

-the fight with Sai and his buddy where the MC gets punched
-almost getting into a 3vs1 fight with Sai and two other guys; Jeff steps in so nothing happens
-acting provocatively with Dwight and his crew. Under different circumstances this could have escalated very quickly
-violently pushing Justin for no good reason during the talk with Nadia (just before the tabletop session)

It's not implausible that one time he just messed with the wrong guy and things took a really bad turn for him. If that's what happened, he clearly hasn't learned his lesson, lol.

I have yet to play WIAB so I can't comment on the gang suggestion, but it's been mentioned before so it's worth keeping in mind.
 

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I also think that the violent incident that landed the MC in hospital may be unrelated to Summer. We're not given any context for it; Nami just mentions it and then the MC has the flashbacks from which we learn that he was seriously injured, but there is nothing to indicate how or when it happened.

During the sessions with Amber we find out that the MC would frequently get into fights at school as a way of coping with his anger. That hasn't really changed since then. I mean...

-the fight with Sai and his buddy where the MC gets punched
-almost getting into a 3vs1 fight with Sai and two other guys; Jeff steps in so nothing happens
-acting provocatively with Dwight and his crew. Under different circumstances this could have escalated very quickly
-violently pushing Justin for no good reason during the talk with Nadia (just before the tabletop session)

It's not implausible that one time he just messed with the wrong guy and things took a really bad turn for him. If that's what happened, he clearly hasn't learned his lesson, lol.

I have yet to play WIAB so I can't comment on the gang suggestion, but it's been mentioned before so it's worth keeping in mind.
only 3v1 was unnecessary in my opinion.
  • he asked Sai to move. Sai didn't. it's only logical to yell "MOVE BITCH! GET OUT THE WAY!" and knock the bitch out
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  • Literally nothing happened in a scene with Dwight. Maybe if it was Larry instead of Dwight we would see a kiss at least
 

Frowster

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Sure, some of those altercations were provoked by the other guys, but if you're on the receiving end of such behaviour, you can always try to defuse rather than escalate. You never know who you're dealing with, if they're proficient in martial arts or carrying some kind of weapon and so on. Getting physical should be a last resort. It's not worth the potential trouble for some alpha male chest-thumping, in my opinion. Maybe it's not very alpha, but it's sensible.

With Justin, simply saying "hands off" would probably have been enough to get him to back off; with Sai, you could just try walking around him or pushing him out of the way first. If he took things further... then you'd just be defending yourself.

With Dwight, the MC leans in so close to him they almost butt heads. Okay, Dwight likes it, but the MC couldn't have known how he would react. Another guy could have responded with something like "oooh, look, boys, we've got a tough guy here" and continued this later when the coaches and girls wouldn't be around.

You don't have to be the instigator to get into unnecessary fights.

Literally nothing happened in a scene with Dwight. Maybe if it was Larry instead of Dwight we would see a kiss at least
Or maybe he would be intrigued by the MC's mighty balls and decide to carry out his signature inspection of him, right there and then? Then Dwight and Mister Stahl would join in aaand... boom! You passed! There's your spot on the first team, son.
 
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Old Man Al

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O Nami,

When i look at you,
i wonder to what i owe such a divine fiery goddess of love,
you have come down straight from heaven to take my heart and all my love.

your fiery red hairs glow in the moonlight,
i can stare at your twinkling sparkling eyes for hours,
and every beautiful freckle on your cute little face is worth a a kiss.

But oh my little sweet darling,
don't look at me like that,
for then i can never restrain myself from making love to you in the most romantic way.

Creamier than the creamiest cream so are your warm thighs and heavenly full breasts,
i lick around your little erect nipples,
i nipple and bite them gently.
Really,i can't keep my hand's off these breasts,
because this is god's perfection.

With my hands searching over your thighs,
feel my heart beating,
oh god,never let this feeling stop.

After which i pull down your fiery red panties,
push you on the table,
and gently kiss an nibble the inside of your thighs.

i use my lips and breathe gently on your pussy lips,
then i increase the pace so fast ,
reaching a squirting orgasm that leaves you unable to stand on your feet.

I protect you with all my life,
all my love is for you,
because you are my everything ,and my everything you are.
ti amo,ti amo nami :love: :love:

Beautiful art by the talented artist Sam2504


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Not really sold on that picture. Nami looks like she is already 3+ years in porn business with all the "upgrades" that come with time, imo.
 

Cabin Fever

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you are right about this,
but yes,there is not much fanart of nami.
most of what you find is from Bella,Bella,Bella ;)
It's time Ocean gave the other girls more attention.
You do realize that fanart by definition is art created by fans right? So it's entirely up to fans to create that, and has nothing to do with how much attention Ocean gives to to each girl.
 

soprano31

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You do realize that fanart by definition is art created by fans right? So it's entirely up to fans to create that, and has nothing to do with how much attention Ocean gives to to each girl.
Cabin Fever
I respect you,
but i don't want endless discussions.
I'll be back here when some trolls are gone,
otherwise bye here.

p.s:no one forces you to read all my bullshit,
you don't like it,don't read it,
but don't act like a retarded toddler.
do you think i read all the bullshit of some freaks here?
then they can put me in a straitjacket right away.
 

HogRocket

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Cabin Fever
I respect you,
but i don't want endless discussions.
I'll be back here when some trolls are gone,
otherwise bye here.

p.s:no one forces you to read all my bullshit,
you don't like it,don't read it,
but don't act like a retarded toddler.
do you think i read all the bullshit of some freaks here?
then they can put me in a straitjacket right away.
Hey! You said you'd kill me if I didn't read your bullshit! You liar! I've been reading your bullshit all this time when I didn't have to? DAMNIT! I could have been jacking......working....on.....something.....else....than.........
 
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PaxHadrian17

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Winter1.png

Winter Nami's Love
Summers gone nightmares remain
Hope flies on new wings

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_____________________________________________________________________________

When I checked the SG thread this morning, at 3 AM (I am a humble servant of cats who let me know their hunger Must be addressed), I noticed a reply on this page that reminded me of poetry - it looked like two stanzas and, instead of reading it, my half-awake mind jumped to a haiku. That is why I'm giving you the first entry in the Summers Gone poetry contest, which could well have just this single entry given that

with the rising sun
other work must be done

(sorry for torturing you with rhyme like this, but better you than my wife who would throw something at me, given the hour).

Enjoy your morning :coffee:
 
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Old Man Al

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Hello,

Here are two Mila treats. (4k Images attached for download.)
I created this image a while ago while experimenting with a few different sculpts and thought why not share it...
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And here is the actual Treat image with Mila's new alternative hairstyle.
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I will publish the version without the pastie as soon as Mila has appeared topless in the game. (I won't show anything without it being revealed in the game first.)

The next Treat with either be Nami or Amber.

Thanks a lot for your increased support!
- Ocean
 

Old Man Al

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Hello,

I'm on the finish line for the Chapter 2 rework, a few more renders, and some postwork and it's mostly done. (I will do the cinematic at a later point.)

Chapter 5 is around 70 renders in, and I'm breezing through it. I have so much more drive for the new chapters than reworking the old ones. But it has to be done.

Mila has been quite the controversial character so far (Regarding how I changed her looks etc.)
While I was reworking the cafe scene, I loaded an ancient scene up. Old Chapter 2 Mila was there and I thought... Hmm, let's make a small comparison of all the Milas.
I loaded up Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 1 Rework, and Chapter 5 (recent) Mila.
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The hip ratio of Mila from Ch2 & Ch3 was absolutely fucked. I must've changed her for the first time in Chapter 3 when she got her new hair in the gym.
The left Mila from Chapter 1... Yeah... What can I say? I should've used some scale when I sculpted that... and touched some grass. Sorry about that!

Anyways, I like the recent Mila a lot, and I sculpted her in a way that I think is natural. This one's gonna stay.

In the last WiAB log, I did publish some additional renders. (Treats). I will do the same for SG now. There's no must to it, I will publish them whenever I've got some.
You can find some Mila Treats

Previews:
Let's get to some Chapter 2 previews.
Old Vic
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New Vic
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Old Mila
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New Mila (Recent one)
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Bad news for the people who like this hair on Mila. Its quality sadly sucks hard, and I won't be using it in the future again. I have an alternative hairstyle for Mila that I really dig in one of the
Old Silvie (DBD Killer #2)
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New Silvie
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Old Bellchen
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Old Bibi Bellchen & Sister
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New Bibi Bellchen & Sister
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Innocent Chapter 5 Preview
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For those that are still waiting on an answer in a private message, I'm getting to it! I had collected over 90 messages just in the weeks after my move.
I'll answer every single message.

- Ocean
 
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Kassandara

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Hello,

Here are two Mila treats. (4k Images attached for download.)
I created this image a while ago while experimenting with a few different sculpts and thought why not share it...
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And here is the actual Treat image with Mila's new alternative hairstyle.
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I will publish the version without the pastie as soon as Mila has appeared topless in the game. (I won't show anything without it being revealed in the game first.)

The next Treat with either be Nami or Amber.

Thanks a lot for your increased support!
- Ocean
Oh my..
 
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