hey if using f95zone gets you success on steam and you no longer need f95zone to make an income then more power to the dev, i for one have used f95zone to find games then look for them on steam to buy it has worked out for me. i say use whatever source you can to help yourself i think f95zone can be a great tool for devs to gain a fan base as well as steam.
Fzone and Steam are great places for developers to start a fan base of their own, i agree with you on that.
I think Ocean started here like a lot of devs. It's certainly a bit of a cauldron, and you can see the wide range of what people like. But Ocean deleted his account here, because people kept demanding he do things their way. His patreons haven't been as demanding as the pirates in this sense. SG hasn't had lewds in any meaningful way at all the whole development. This means, yes, people have been playing it this whole time and enjoying it even with the blueball warning. It hasn't been taken away, it's almost never been in the game. Based on how popular this game is despite the naysayers, the majority of people are comfortable with seeing how it develops, and getting on with other lewd games in the mean time if they feel too blueballed. It's not like we're lacking choices here, we could even get easy WiaB fixes of Miru.
This is the thing 100%
You jest but I remember another thread where this was already commented on.
i don't know what % i am in lewds and story. for the most part lewds in a AVN would make no sense without story, if i just want lewds then i just watch porn. but in a AVN the story is first and foremost and then add the lewds but only if they make sense for the story and characters. i would imagine that is what ocean is doing building story and character relationships up before he adds lewds for the lewds to make sense and for other characters the lewds probaly will never come because it will make no sense for the story.I think Ocean started here like a lot of devs. It's certainly a bit of a cauldron, and you can see the wide range of what people like. But Ocean deleted his account here, because people kept demanding he do things their way. His patreons haven't been as demanding as the pirates in this sense. SG hasn't had lewds in any meaningful way at all the whole development. This means, yes, people have been playing it this whole time and enjoying it even with the blueball warning. It hasn't been taken away, it's almost never been in the game. Based on how popular this game is despite the naysayers, the majority of people are comfortable with seeing how it develops, and getting on with other lewd games in the mean time if they feel too blueballed. It's not like we're lacking choices here, we could even get easy WiaB fixes of Miru.
Kickstarters etc have the same problem with people hoping for what a game will be like etc vs the reality once it's shipped. Supporting development is no guarantee of preferred content. Not supporting development means no guarantees of anything.
I play the game because I like the characters and the story as it is. If there are no lewds, I'll still play to find out what happens. Lewds can happen, I won't be upset if they do, that'd be silly, but I'm playing this one for the game as my main interest.
This is the thing 100%
I'm not dogmatic about what Ocean decides, he can do what he likes. I'll applaud any choices he makes that enable SG to reach completion. Consider what happened to WiaB recently, and consider what would've happened if Ocean hadn't have dumbed down SG. Future content is something Ocean has plans for, but how that happens, we'll get to find out. WiaB having lewds straight out of the gate was Ocean basically saying he is happy to have lewds whenever, but it has to be meaningful to the story he's telling. It makes sense in WiaB, not yet in SG. and he's slowed it down to release the first season without more reworks to replace music he licensed.
How he develops and releases Season 2 is a good question - Ocean's actually new to this steam process - SG will be his first game on there, this whole thing is new to him, as experienced as he is with rendering and cinematics. This release side, he's amking it up as he goes, like we all would. There's no one way to get your product to market safely.
Season 2 he'll have time and feedback to work out what he needs to do to reach his goals without leaving customers behind.
Ocean being focused on how he can continue the story is a win for me in any way he chooses to succeed
Ok lets phrase it differently, cause thats not was i wanted to say... i could have sworn that i wrote these words into the post, but must have slipped...
I would hit a like, but I've hit my reaction limit today, every now and then I get one back, and bam, someone posts something I like
i have found myself even getting emotional in some adult games because of the characters realtionship dyamtic, being asking them to marry you or the MC getting hurt and the female characters coming to his add or whatever and thats not lewd one bit but feelings and those adult games hold more sway with me than the erotic aspect on other adult games can ever have.I would hit a like, but I've hit my reaction limit today, every now and then I get one back, and bam, someone posts something I like
This is exactly the thing. Lewd scenes onlr really have any excitement the first time you see them in a story, because it a surprise. Generic male DAZ penis looks as bad as saying "GM DAZ PP" aloud sounds. It either looks like a bratwurst, or like a woodwork experiemnt witha broom handle or something that should be rushed to a doctor to be treatedfor cancer. The average DAZ PP is very very unerotic. The breasts we've seen, some are more some less erotic once we see nipples, based on preferences. In general the vaginas look slightly better than the pp's but the look more like an alien lifeform waiting to be fed bratwurst.
I can honestly say the only erotic thing about any DAZ lewd scene is the characters and why they're getting intimate. Without that, it's just varying render qualities, and imagininative angles. As you say, porn at least gets lewd right.
On the whole I prefer AVN's because they are erotic, and eroticism isn't limited to lewdness.
It's the same thing with any game. And endless shooter loses appeal, a dungeon crawler with no goal other than survival is a niche appeal. Most people are turned on by the narrative, which is why even porn tries to have stories. And this is why I believe SG is an adult novel, because the way the characters interact actual feels far more natural than the usual "I love the taste of your pp!" "Oh you fill me up so good!" If Ocean writes either of those phrases unironically, I'll probably projective vomit when that happens!
The AVN dev community is like a pyramid - many at the bottom and a few quite successful ones at the top. They mostly share one thing in common - Patreon and the likes of F95 gave them a leg up when they started out.
Yeah, I know what you're saying. Seasons really only became a thing after games we know from here hit Steam.
The Dev of another popular AVN here on F95 recently released a short April Fool's Day parody version of his game, mockingly set in a similar environment to one of the biggest AVNs around. In the parody, the dev used the "I love the taste of your pp!" / "Oh you fill me up so good!"-type tropes ironically, and it was a hoot!...than the usual "I love the taste of your pp!" "Oh you fill me up so good!" If Ocean writes either of those phrases unironically, I'll probably projective vomit when that happens!
i'm pretty sure the steam release will be a success for the most part because about half if not more of oceans patreon and SS support will buy summers gone on steam so thats a plus for sure. other than that i don't know he has quite the following on f95zone so i imagine those here will buy the steam version in my opinion.
I saw that and downloaded it, but haven't played it yet - too many things going on WiaB wise that day to really enjoy pranks as intended. Please do if Ocean does it unironically. If we have a droll, disinterested Nika saying it while Nadia uses a devil card on him in tabletop land, I would find that absolutely hilarious.
I mean, I can only go by my own actions, I'm planning on buying it, and I'll probably buy it on steam, epic and gog, simply because I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of it, and I can increase the chance of further development. I'm not willing/able to justify being a patron, so this is how I can have some small gratitude for years of pirating it.
I kinda agree with what you all are singing if he didn't overdue it with the metajokes about no lewd and dick not working last update. Made the MC look like a complete loser and Bella an idiot for putting up with it.
Dick not working? Fine, you have working hands and lips, even if you can't get into you it right now mentally, do it for your female companion, I am sure that karma will return, instead he unnecessarily wrote himself into a corner he knew he can't get out of because of the Steam release and it makes zero sense narratively why he pushed so much of the, 'hahaha, SG has no sexy times, get it player?' meta humor.
Not mentioning how in bad taste it comes across, it would be fine 'wink, wink' joke if it would be a year old game, but some mfers have been waiting for anything to happen for 5 years now, they don't need the sword twisted in the wound, it fucking rusted in there already.
Amber is like walking Viagra. You let four grandpa's with erectile dysfunction sit around a table. When Amber would walk by, the table would begin to levitate...
Have you even played SG?
First of all, his dick works fine, but unfortunately it only works in one direction - Summer's dead pussy.
Second, Nami, roleplaying Summer, was able to make him get a boner.
Third, when the MC allowed Nami to move her buttocks on his dick in jacuzzi, he suddenly discovered that his dick was alive again. So, it's not just dead Summer's pussy that's actually working.
Four, the game doesn't yet say what exactly caused his panic attacks, but now they happen quite regularly. The more body contact he has, the stronger the blow. He lost in the college hallway surrounded by a bunch of girls, he had a panic attack. A threesome kiss with Vic and Mila - he had to retreat to the bathroom and experience a panic attack. He was having fun at a book club - panic attack. Do you really think getting more intimate with Bella is a good idea until he deals with this shit?
The game kinda hints that this idea is not very good. And it seems obvious that until he and Amber visit the damn cabin, he will not make any progress in solving this problem.
All not in the game anymore.
Have you even played SG?
First of all, his dick works fine, but unfortunately it only works in one direction - Summer's dead pussy.
Second, Nami, roleplaying Summer, was able to make him get a boner.
Third, when the MC allowed Nami to move her buttocks on his dick in jacuzzi, he suddenly discovered that his dick was alive again. So, it's not just dead Summer's pussy that's actually working.
He got panic attacks because he was forcing social interactions with multiple people at once, especially strangers. Is there any instance where it happens with Bella? Because if not, all you just said is your head canon, because there are zero hints his attacks are related to intimacy with the people he loves, sex, or causing his dick problems.
Dem pierced nipples too OP.
" This game is about healing, hope, and love. A young man plagued by depression and isolation. "
Have you even played SG?
First of all, his dick works fine, but unfortunately it only works in one direction - Summer's dead pussy.
Second, Nami, roleplaying Summer, was able to make him get a boner.
Third, when the MC allowed Nami to move her buttocks on his dick in jacuzzi, he suddenly discovered that his dick was alive again. So, it's not just dead Summer's pussy that's actually working.
Four, the game doesn't yet say what exactly caused his panic attacks, but now they happen quite regularly. The more body contact he has, the stronger the blow. He lost in the college hallway surrounded by a bunch of girls, he had a panic attack. A threesome kiss with Vic and Mila - he had to retreat to the bathroom and experience a panic attack. He was having fun at a book club - panic attack. Do you really think getting more intimate with Bella is a good idea until he deals with this shit?
The game kinda hints that this idea is not very good. And it seems obvious that until he and Amber visit the damn cabin, he will not make any progress in solving this problem.
