Krytax123

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Dude you're just making an ass out of yourself. I've told you again and again it's not about the lack of tits. And I wasn't even talking about the lake scene. The most important one, the most defining one on Nami's route is the jaccuzzi scene that was cut short. If you know what's missing you know how important it is to the overall story and especially the relationship between her and the MC.
Damn youre really butthurt.

Feel free to ebolarate how and why the removal of the nami jacuzzi scene damaged the story or their relationship progression lol. I miss a few scenes too but this one really isnt it, its such a porn scene with everyone right next to them in the house.
 

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Dude you're just making an ass out of yourself. I've told you again and again it's not about the lack of tits. And I wasn't even talking about the lake scene. The most important one, the most defining one on Nami's route is the jaccuzzi scene that was cut short. If you know what's missing you know how important it is to the overall story and especially the relationship between her and the MC.
And now we have reached a branching point.
For me(!) - personal opinion - was the jacuzzi scene less important for the development between the two than, let's say, the talk that can/will(?) start the race against impossible odds.
As I said, that's just my opinion.

But I have to be fair/admit, that Nami just rubs me the wrong way. Till now, she is way to annoying for my taste. That may be change with future updates but at this point of the story I straight out can't stand her. Don't ask me why, I will not be able to give you a satisfying answer.
 
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Regards the censoring since ch5 beta that hasn't been readded:

- Nami licking Nika's nipple is gone - instead, Nika wakes up to see Nami already dressed to train with Jeff (actually makes more sense to me)
- Nami using the breast pump is gone, now it's only Nika. Kinda makes the situation funnier as they're all ganging up on him, the least interested in the toys.
- jacuzzi scene was rerendered to be tamer even though the 18+ lewd was removed in the Beta anyway
- dialogue, mainly between Nika and Nami of a sexual nature has been tamed considerably.
And the reworked/adjusted scene, where the MC and Nami talks about Nick in Nami's room, I think the new one is way better, way more sense, then the previous one, where Nami was topless.
 

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But I have to be fair/admit, that Nami just rubs me the wrong way. Till now, she is way to annoying for my taste. That may be change with future updates but at this point of the story I straight out can't stand her. Don't ask me why, I will not be able to give you a satisfying answer.
Funny thing is I actually loved Nami for her comedy. But the last update when on the Bella path at least I started to dislike Nami a bit cause of the whole kitchen scene when Bella is over at the MC's house. I get the feeling I'm gonna end up liking her less and less on the Bella path in Season 2
 
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Damn youre really butthurt.

Feel free to ebolarate how and why the removal of the nami jacuzzi scene damaged the story or their relationship progression lol. I miss a few scenes too but this one really isnt it, its such a porn scene with everyone right next to them in the house.
The story was irrecoverable damaged when Marla's gun license was suspended. Now it's just agony. :Kappa:
 

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And the reworked/adjusted scene, where the MC and Nami talks about Nick in Nami's room, I think the new one is way better, way more sense, then the previous one, where Nami was topless.
That's the thing for me, once I got over the differences, I felt I cared more about Nami than previously. But I also can understand why people are upset that their main LI has been altered. The changes are mainly affecting Nami after all, more other dialogue changes are minor, and most other cut scenes are like one or two renders. Nami does get far more of her path changed than any of the others.
 

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A lot of very good points! One of the cringiest scenes in this VN was the part in the bar before Bella date where MC explains to Joff why he doesn't tell Nami about the guy hitting on her. Suddenly he's all "I'm doing social experiment" and "I'm big brain behind the curtain, muahahahaha!" and all that crap. That was such a random scene that the first time I got to it I was just blinking and going "huh?" It served no purpose, came out of nowhere, was completely at odds with the entire game before it and with the character and didn't appear again, nor had any influence.
Thats just Nika but he behaves like that all the time, it isnt really a surprise. The whole Holgerson/bella plan is the same thing, he talked to Amber and Bella about it too.

Nika isnt flawless and its kind of a hubris and overconfidence (william is similar) often thinking he's smarter than he really is or simply not having the whole picture. There are multiple times where we can read his thoughts, feels very smart, yet we know this is kinda dumb.

I mean .. look at the date in the restaurant with bella, it doesnt work out ..

But you arent supposed to read that and think "damn he's smart!" his ideas are often kinda crap.
 

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Don't bother., These people aren't speaking out of ignorance. They know damn well the amount of content that was cut or changed. They are posturing. Their intent is to shift the narrative and make it flow on this thread as they want it to. In a manner that is more positive to Ocean and the game. Problem is, not everyone is as daft as they think we are.
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I can't quite put my finger on why, but this scene is one of my favorites. The first time I watched it, it just hit differently. You can sense the first hints of Bella's feelings for the MC. There's nothing overly complex about it - no spectacular animations or anything like that. It's just a few seconds long, but it left a lasting impression on me...
One of the aspects of Ocean's work I appreciate is his use of facial expressions.

I agree - Bella's initial reaction to the MC's injury was Not what you would expect of someone who did not care at all for the MC.

She covered it up pretty quickly and tried to resume a more dispassionate attitude, but her gut reaction was there for all to see.

Sometimes, it is easy to miss the small facial expression changes; I get caught up in reading the dialogue and not paying enough attention to what is happening in the renders, and I will go back to double check and spot the facial expression change or (and this has happened several times) - I suddenly spot one of Sasha's friends appear in the background - not Stalking the MC but close at hand.

Ocean's clever use of easter eggs in the background of various scenes adds to my sense of - there is more going on than I know and I get Damn curious!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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Sometimes, it is easy to miss the small facial expression changes; I get caught up in reading the dialogue and not paying enough attention to what is happening in the renders, and I will go back to double check and spot the facial expression change
This happened to me when it came to the Bella cinematics my first time I played the game I just played the game. However on my 2nd playthrough I saw Bella in a new light and she passed everyone by a mile in terms of characters I like even ones from other games. Because I paid more attention to her facial expressions and everything else happening in those cinematics. It really felt like there is some subtle detail in those or even a small story within them to tell that is up for personal interpretation. To me those cinematics make Bella feel like one of the most romantic LI ive seen in an AVN even tho her story isn't the most romantic compared to some others.
 

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Think you need to add a couple of decades to that year, dude. We sure as hell ain't getting finished season 2 in just 5 years.
Ocean won't be able to finish this vn because even the characters are getting older in real time , so by the end of season 2 they'll look like on their 50's and on season 3 they'll start dying because of old age.
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This happened to me when it came to the Bella cinematics my first time I played the game I just played the game. However on my 2nd playthrough I saw Bella in a new light and she passed everyone by a mile in terms of characters I like even ones from other games. Because I paid more attention to her facial expressions and everything else happening in those cinematics. It really felt like there is some subtle detail in those or even a small story within them to tell that is up for personal interpretation. To me those cinematics make Bella feel like one of the most romantic LI ive seen in an AVN even tho her story isn't the most romantic compared to some others.
During my first playthrough, it felt like I missed out on about 70% of the visuals because I was so engrossed in the text. I'm more accustomed to straightforward books without all the rich visual content...

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