VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[vampires69'in]

Unless there are special circumstances dictated by the main plot, like in the case of the joint project with Bella, a large portion of all these LIs will always look like side-chicks. Nika has to have a special reason dictated by the main plot to spend enough time with a given LI so that they have even a shadow of a chance to have such an impact as Nami and Bella. Without it, it will always be half an hour walks in the park or one-night-long pijama parties.

I consider your link to Victoria's accident and if you decide to offer your emotional support as well as possible deciding to date her a valid reason for far more screen time. Also Mila getting pinned for the car graffiti,and breaking and entering as well as theft into the possibly dateing her. Cannonically moving in with her. I agree that Nami and Bella would have far more content considering how they are incorporated into the story and their relationship to Nika. However, that doesn't mean the difference in content should be so horribly stark....so obscenely non-existent in comparision or even without.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I consider your link to Victoria's accident and if you decide to offer your emotional support as well as possible deciding to date her a valid reason for far more screen time. Also Mila getting pinned for the car graffiti,and breaking and entering as well as theft into the possibly dateing her. Cannonically moving in with her. I agree that Nami and Bella would have far more content considering how they are incorporated into the story and their relationship to Nika. However, that doesn't mean the difference in content should be so horribly stark....so obscenely non-existent in comparision or even without.

All of the LI's will get more screen time in Ch1. Think about it, standard chapter length is ~2300 renders or so. A longer main story chapter might be 3000. If Ocean delivers 8000, that means 5000 to share between all the LI's on solo paths (I choose these numbers for simple maths). THere are 14? LI's, so that would mean each gets around 350 renders, additional to where they appear in the main story. That's in one chapter.

I wouldn't read too much into the first season, it's like any RPG where they have the training level where you fight a rat invasion before being allowed out to the main map. Despite only 2 characters having specific 'romance' time, we do have an idea of all the characters personalities, and idea of who's who etc.

Nika can't feasibly visit everyone on the first day of college, Sonja's path might be the hardest because she lives under control, with her family dictation how she can socialise - so events like the tabletop will be maybe more important for her, as well as maybe skipping lectures to hang out with Nika. Her path can't make sense unless it has a slow start. Same with Sasha who has a bodyguard who looked ready to intercept NIka. The reasons for Nami and Bella taking so much screen time as you say are obvious - Nika lives with Nami and is forced to work with Bella. We're offered the chance to stay in our comfort zone or one chance to step out. Nika didn't move in any of these social circles before college, so it makes sense that the ice needs to be broken. One night and tennis match with Zara and she's getting naked, jumping on his shoulders - Ocean's condensing the time and everyone's acting purely on hormones and good first impressions.

The challenge for Ocean from here will be how to keep each update as significant - does he intend on having this many branches running through the whole game, increasing the number of renders for each chapter from here to 5-8000? I imagine some chapters will be mor story driven, and have less LI content. Regardless he's certainly not shy of making big decisions, and I'm not afraid my preferred girls won't get content, it's always going to be a worry about whether they change cup size in the dev time

 

[vampires69'in]

All of the LI's will get more screen time in Ch1. Think about it, standard chapter length is ~2300 renders or so. A longer main story chapter might be 3000. If Ocean delivers 8000, that means 5000 to share between all the LI's on solo paths (I choose these numbers for simple maths). THere are 14? LI's, so that would mean each gets around 350 renders, additional to where they appear in the main story. That's in one chapter.

I wouldn't read too much into the first season, it's like any RPG where they have the training level where you fight a rat invasion before being allowed out to the main map. Despite only 2 characters having specific 'romance' time, we do have an idea of all the characters personalities, and idea of who's who etc.

Nika can't feasibly visit everyone on the first day of college, Sonja's path might be the hardest because she lives under control, with her family dictation how she can socialise - so events like the tabletop will be maybe more important for her, as well as maybe skipping lectures to hang out with Nika. Her path can't make sense unless it has a slow start. Same with Sasha who has a bodyguard who looked ready to intercept NIka. The reasons for Nami and Bella taking so much screen time as you say are obvious - Nika lives with Nami and is forced to work with Bella. We're offered the chance to stay in our comfort zone or one chance to step out. Nika didn't move in any of these social circles before college, so it makes sense that the ice needs to be broken. One night and tennis match with Zara and she's getting naked, jumping on his shoulders - Ocean's condensing the time and everyone's acting purely on hormones and good first impressions.

The challenge for Ocean from here will be how to keep each update as significant - does he intend on having this many branches running through the whole game, increasing the number of renders for each chapter from here to 5-8000? I imagine some chapters will be mor story driven, and have less LI content. Regardless he's certainly not shy of making big decisions, and I'm not afraid my preferred girls won't get content, it's always going to be a worry about whether they change cup size in the dev time

True, what I said was simply my thoughts on the LI's content in the first season. Nothing going onwards. Which I hope is much better on that front. I still stand by not thinking of LI's outside Bella,Nami Victoria, Mila as anything even remotely worth of being considered of the sort. Until they get some decent screen time. I will say, Zara's limited time already made me turn a 180 on my thoughts of her while playing the game. It was a really good surprise. I do love something about all the other lady's though. I just want them to get their time.

 

[BobTheDuck]

True, what I said was simply my thoughts on the LI's content in the first season. Nothing going onwards. Which I hope is much better on that front. I still stand by not thinking of LI's outside Bella,Nami Victoria, Mila as anything even remotely worth of being considered of the sort. Until they get some decent screen time. I will say, Zara's limited time already made me turn a 180 on my thoughts of her while playing the game. It was a really good surprise. I do love something about all the other lady's though. I just want them to get their time.

Totally understood - I was doing kinda a catch all to the the thoughts of the last couple of posts. I'm fairly confident that if Maja is getting screen time as mentioned in the devlogs, if Ayua is showing her areolas, and wrestling on Monday - we still have all kinds of Sunday activities, such as Ayua's fighty fight, and maybe Monday will finish at the bar opening, and that's a reason for length of the update as well. As far as LI's, well, Ocean used to say Maja was an LI and she got demoted, so getting attached to characters without content is not wise.... but it's too late for me. I'll play whatever paths are available, while hoping for x y and z sidecharacters to get a scene.

I also saw this on discord recently:



So likely the script will just be a string of meaningful events, from now, and an attempt to see them as full days will be meaningless as the season goes on - just like Marla barely seems to teach anything and we get to skip her classes every time we play So there will be little of Nika being loner emo boy.

 

[vampires69'in]

Totally understood - I was doing kinda a catch all to the the thoughts of the last couple of posts. I'm fairly confident that if Maja is getting screen time as mentioned in the devlogs, if Ayua is showing her areolas, and wrestling on Monday - we still have all kinds of Sunday activities, such as Ayua's fighty fight, and maybe Monday will finish at the bar opening, and that's a reason for length of the update as well. As far as LI's, well, Ocean used to say Maja was an LI and she got demoted, so getting attached to characters without content is not wise.... but it's too late for me. I'll play whatever paths are available, while hoping for x y and z sidecharacters to get a scene.

I also saw this on discord recently:

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So likely the script will just be a string of meaningful events, from now, and an attempt to see them as full days will be meaningless as the season goes on - just like Marla barely seems to teach anything and we get to skip her classes every time we play So there will be little of Nika being loner emo boy.

I still laugh when he told Nia he's not an emo boy. Dude was in denial. Hell, he's still an emo boy. But the glow up anime version that the girls are interested in while they're cold or dispassionate to them

 

[vampires69'in]

Totally understood - I was doing kinda a catch all to the the thoughts of the last couple of posts. I'm fairly confident that if Maja is getting screen time as mentioned in the devlogs, if Ayua is showing her areolas, and wrestling on Monday - we still have all kinds of Sunday activities, such as Ayua's fighty fight, and maybe Monday will finish at the bar opening, and that's a reason for length of the update as well. As far as LI's, well, Ocean used to say Maja was an LI and she got demoted, so getting attached to characters without content is not wise.... but it's too late for me. I'll play whatever paths are available, while hoping for x y and z sidecharacters to get a scene.

I also saw this on discord recently:

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So likely the script will just be a string of meaningful events, from now, and an attempt to see them as full days will be meaningless as the season goes on - just like Marla barely seems to teach anything and we get to skip her classes every time we play So there will be little of Nika being loner emo boy.

Also....the beloved shounen training arc on the way lol

 

[BobTheDuck]

I still laugh when he told Nia he's not an emo boy. Dude was in denial. Hell, he's still an emo boy. But the glow up anime version that the girls are interested in while they're cold or dispassionate to them

I grew up in the 90's so given that Ocean said Nika would be listening to AiC as a preference, no, not emo but gen eXistentialist nihilist grunge boy glow up. Subtle difference, but it's there. Emo's are the only sad bois, and grunge/goth/alternative 90's culture had superior trauma

 

[Ray_D]

Totally understood - I was doing kinda a catch all to the the thoughts of the last couple of posts. I'm fairly confident that if Maja is getting screen time as mentioned in the devlogs, if Ayua is showing her areolas, and wrestling on Monday - we still have all kinds of Sunday activities, such as Ayua's fighty fight, and maybe Monday will finish at the bar opening, and that's a reason for length of the update as well. As far as LI's, well, Ocean used to say Maja was an LI and she got demoted, so getting attached to characters without content is not wise.... but it's too late for me. I'll play whatever paths are available, while hoping for x y and z sidecharacters to get a scene.

I also saw this on discord recently:

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So likely the script will just be a string of meaningful events, from now, and an attempt to see them as full days will be meaningless as the season goes on - just like Marla barely seems to teach anything and we get to skip her classes every time we play So there will be little of Nika being loner emo boy.

You heard ocean, no sex with girls, just pure homoerotic scenes of nika and his gym bros.

 

[vampires69'in]

I grew up in the 90's so given that Ocean said Nika would be listening to AiC as a preference, no, not emo but gen eXistentialist nihilist grunge boy glow up. Subtle difference, but it's there. Emo's are the only sad bois, and grunge/goth/alternative 90's culture had superior trauma

As did I. He kind of feels like both to me lol. and he most certainly damned that river and died young lol

 

[vampires69'in]

You heard ocean, no sex with girls, just pure homoerotic scenes of nika and his gym bros.
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I'm a fairly open chill individiual, so as long as that doesn't include this old man cosplaying as a simply ugly college student lol, I'll be ok.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Not counting Nami. Victoria,Mila,Nia and Robin liked Nika from the beginning before they knew him. Hope Robin becomes a LI. All her interactions show she will be. Made sure these four had their own exclusive saves. They had no arch or build up to care for Nika they were truly attracted to him. As Mila said his aura I am a crazy limp noodle that won't get a boner if you show me your assets.

 

[vampires69'in]

I grew up in the 90's so given that Ocean said Nika would be listening to AiC as a preference, no, not emo but gen eXistentialist nihilist grunge boy glow up. Subtle difference, but it's there. Emo's are the only sad bois, and grunge/goth/alternative 90's culture had superior trauma

Then poor Nika is slowly leaving his....3 legged dog album cover selft titled era lol. Currently in the middle of his Jar of Flies phase, transistioning from the Layne Staley era, to William Duvall Black Gives Way to blue.

 

[vampires69'in]

Not counting Nami. Victoria,Mila,Nia and Robin liked Nika from the beginning before they knew him. Hope Robin becomes a LI. All her interactions show she will be. Made sure these four had their own exclusive saves. They had no arch or build up to care for Nika they were truly attracted to him. As Mila said his aura I am a crazy limp noodle that won't get a boner if you show me your assets.

I too would love to see Robin officially join the crew and raise the Jolly Roger....and maybe get a 1 foot height increase to keep things close to inspiration lol

 

[BobTheDuck]

Then poor Nika is slowly leaving his....3 legged dog album cover selft titled era lol. Currently in the middle of his Jar of Flies phase, transistioning from the Layne Staley era, to William Duvall Black Gives Way to blue.

Well, seeing he's leaving three legged dog for jar of flies, he's 'crawling back to the start'. Well, rotten apple is a great way to describe his attitude

Edit: vampires69'in I'll stop making AiC references - but Dirt is the downer. Pre-rework Nika I imagine as 'Man in the Box' era, while Ch3 Nika is 'Would?' Pizza party is 'Right Turn'. We haven't hit 'Heaven Beside You' yet

 

[vampires69'in]

Well, seeing he's leaving three legged dog for jar of flies, he's 'crawling back to the start'. Well, rotten apple is a great way to describe his attitude

To be fair, although The Jar Of Flies ep is older. AiC self titled album was in one word to be described...death lol.Hell, that last track if I recall is literally goes, yeahh It's over now lol. Jar Of Flies felt far more hopeful albeit with some somberness. I bet that season 2 is Black Gives Way to Blue or The Devil Put Dinosaurs here. damn...got my AIC brain rumbling ...other grunge too....lol

 

[Adhdclassic]

Wonder if Sasha has a medical condition mark on her face thought it was from a fight with Ayua. But when Nami asked you can see Robin give her a look. Chance it is a blood mark like what the old Russian president had on his head. Gym scene with Nika he grabs her wrist she starts massaging. I know Strong hand grab girls wrist can hurt. But that's the same hand that got bruised when she caught Nikas head from hitting the mat. Then of course the pills she gives Nika when he has a panic attack.

Second what's the chances she has the same ailment Nika has. Nika no bone Sasha doesn't get wet. Match made in heaven. This part just for jokes..or is it

 

[Ray_D]

I'm a fairly open chill individiual, so as long as that doesn't include this old man cosplaying as a simply ugly college student lol, I'll be ok.
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nah, that's one of the illogical things that give charm to the ocean universe.

 

[vampires69'in]

Wonder if Sasha has a medical condition mark on her face thought it was from a fight with Ayua. But when Nami asked you can see Robin give her a look. Chance it is a blood mark like what the old Russian president had on his head. Gym scene with Nika he grabs her wrist she starts massaging. I know Strong hand grab girls wrist can hurt. But that's the same hand that got bruised when she caught Nikas head from hitting the mat. Then of course the pills she gives Nika when he has a panic attack.

Second what's the chances she has the same ailment Nika has. Nika no bone Sasha doesn't get wet. Match made in heaven. This part just for jokes..or is it

All I know is I can't see Sasha without that facial mark. It just completes her look to me.

 

[Adhdclassic]

All I know is I can't see Sasha without that facial mark. It just completes her look to me.

Think the mark has a big backstory probably messed up her childhood. Hell might even be a kidnap story in there hence body guard.

 

[vampires69'in]

nah, that's one of the illogical things that give charm to the ocean universe.

I prefer his Illogical creatures over that ugly bastard tag