VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[razante]

SG is my top AVN, but I really hope that in the next episode we get some questions answered or at least see some progression with the existing plots. I'm not saying it needs to have any lewd scenes with the LIs in the next episode, but there should be some progress regarding the MC's background. The scene with Nojiko in the bathtub could provide some good development, like Nojiko already knowing Amber and why she hid it from Nika, or answering questions about the past, like her friendship with Emilia, the MC's parents, or her relationship with Kate.

In the next episode, Ocean has the opportunity to introduce tons of WIAB characters in the Dojo scene, so I'm really hyped to see what happens there. I'm 100% sure we'll see Sasha, Ayua's sisters/cousins, or even Miru (though she hasn't been confirmed to be alive yet). Maybe we'll even see some college students like Bella and Nadia attending the Dojo classes. But I'm certain the Dojo part will be fire because Ocean has been keeping it under wraps, not showing any previews for that part in any devlog.

What do you guys think about Nika asking Zara to train him instead of his previous "uncle" coach? Maybe he lost contact, or the coach turned out to be a MF?

 

[razante]

The only reason this game is lagging behind BAD & Eternum is because of the lack of lewd scenes even after 5 years.I understand u need the story to progress to have lewd moments but how long? A decade? The ratings are going down because of it hope the developer adds some lewds soon coz I dont want the most beautiful renders in this forum go without some action.It is time my man add those scenes and u will be on top 3 along with the legends BAD nd ETERNUM

What SG is lacking is branching and progression with the general plot. Ocean gave us the best renders, quality characters and a lot of questions, but it's time to answer some of them in the next episode.

 

[BobTheDuck]

SG is my top AVN, but I really hope that in the next episode we get some questions answered or at least see some progression with the existing plots. I'm not saying it needs to have any lewd scenes with the LIs in the next episode, but there should be some progress regarding the MC's background. The scene with Nojiko in the bathtub could provide some good development, like Nojiko already knowing Amber and why she hid it from Nika, or answering questions about the past, like her friendship with Emilia, the MC's parents, or her relationship with Kate.

In the next episode, Ocean has the opportunity to introduce tons of WIAB characters in the Dojo scene, so I'm really hyped to see what happens there. I'm 100% sure we'll see Sasha, Ayua's sisters/cousins, or even Miru (though she hasn't been confirmed to be alive yet). Maybe we'll even see some college students like Bella and Nadia attending the Dojo classes. But I'm certain the Dojo part will be fire because Ocean has been keeping it under wraps, not showing any previews for that part in any devlog.

What do you guys think about Nika asking Zara to train him instead of his previous "uncle" coach? Maybe he lost contact, or the coach turned out to be a MF?

That's a really interesting point about the uncle - if it was an actual uncle, you'd assume Noji would have their contact. But the idea that Nika doesn't keep any connection with his uncle through this trauma is strange: surely Noji would be enlisting their help? SO I guess as you say, a mf.

And yes, I'm hyped for the dojo and the bar opening. Screw it, I'm hyped for next chapter, all the bits. My guess is we'll get strung along, enough answers will be hinted, but they'll just give rise to more questions: Answers will be indirect, hinting at new theories. We're less than 20% of the way in renderwise, so Frist act sets the scene, second act explains the problem, third act, heroic problem solving, 4th act, it all goes to shit, relf reflection required, fth act, the true understanding.

That's at least how a lot of RPGs go. Mysteries have to be tantalising and revealing layers until that moment when all is reval, and everything falls apart for the MC. Then still time to rebuild their courage for the end game. Same same but different in this cas I guess.

 

[Penfold Mole]

That's a really interesting point about the uncle - if it was an actual uncle, you'd assume Noji would have their contact. But the idea that Nika doesn't keep any connection with his uncle through this trauma is strange: surely Noji would be enlisting their help? SO I guess as you say, a mf.
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I bet his uncle was killed in a car accident, too...

By miss Marla, obviously

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

I bet his uncle was killed in a car accident, too...

By miss Marla, obviously

OH, do not tell he will go to live with his mother's best friend who have 3 adult daughters, OH, He will, right?!!

 

[vampires69'in]

That's a really interesting point about the uncle - if it was an actual uncle, you'd assume Noji would have their contact. But the idea that Nika doesn't keep any connection with his uncle through this trauma is strange: surely Noji would be enlisting their help? SO I guess as you say, a mf.

And yes, I'm hyped for the dojo and the bar opening. Screw it, I'm hyped for next chapter, all the bits. My guess is we'll get strung along, enough answers will be hinted, but they'll just give rise to more questions: Answers will be indirect, hinting at new theories. We're less than 20% of the way in renderwise, so Frist act sets the scene, second act explains the problem, third act, heroic problem solving, 4th act, it all goes to shit, relf reflection required, fth act, the true understanding.

That's at least how a lot of RPGs go. Mysteries have to be tantalising and revealing layers until that moment when all is reval, and everything falls apart for the MC. Then still time to rebuild their courage for the end game. Same same but different in this cas I guess.

 

[LHDLLB]

SG is my top AVN, but I really hope that in the next episode we get some questions answered or at least see some progression with the existing plots. I'm not saying it needs to have any lewd scenes with the LIs in the next episode, but there should be some progress regarding the MC's background. The scene with Nojiko in the bathtub could provide some good development, like Nojiko already knowing Amber and why she hid it from Nika, or answering questions about the past, like her friendship with Emilia, the MC's parents, or her relationship with Kate.

In the next episode, Ocean has the opportunity to introduce tons of WIAB characters in the Dojo scene, so I'm really hyped to see what happens there. I'm 100% sure we'll see Sasha, Ayua's sisters/cousins, or even Miru (though she hasn't been confirmed to be alive yet). Maybe we'll even see some college students like Bella and Nadia attending the Dojo classes. But I'm certain the Dojo part will be fire because Ocean has been keeping it under wraps, not showing any previews for that part in any devlog.

What do you guys think about Nika asking Zara to train him instead of his previous "uncle" coach? Maybe he lost contact, or the coach turned out to be a MF?

While i absolutely agree, I would not get my hopes up to have a lot of answers, I am sure that for each one that Ocean does there are gonna pop 2 more. I also think that next update will be more character oriented, almost every LI will have a scene so I expecting it will deepen Nika's relationship rather than be a big plot update.

The dojo offers a number of possibilities, and I am looking forward to it but I think it will be more of a tease - the preview with the Sasha Duck, maybe is Miru with Auya and Adrianna ? - we will get just enough to send us in wild goose chase. But as fun as it is, Ocean needs to get some real answers soon, otherwise the mystery looses its appeal and just becomes a chore.

 

[CGPUK]

wow this one is actually really good, on par with a good romance drama/novel, authors have what it takes to make a killer series or a movie.

I thought so too.

Still don't know what happened to Summer though.

Was she killed/move away/died of an illness?

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[RNasc4444]

I thought so too.

Still don't know what happened to Summer though.

Was she killed/move away/died of an illness?

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[LHDLLB]

I thought so too.

Still don't know what happened to Summer though.

Was she killed/move away/died of an illness?

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You want a spin off of the TTRPG ? I don't think we can hope for that but I am sure that at least this campaign will be finished

 

[Maviarab]

I thought so too.

Still don't know what happened to Summer though.

Was she killed/move away/died of an illness?

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She's in my dungeon...cell 2187

 

[justin.case]

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[Penfold Mole]

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He doesn't actually need to neither know nor tell us ever what happened to Summer. The story is about Nika and how he tries to get over the loss, it's not about resolving Summer's mystery.

He could easily go through the whole 32 chapters and never tell the reader what happened to her.
He could drop a clue here and there to keep the reader guessing, but never tell the full story. And I think I'd be fine with that.
This could easily be left as an intentional loose end. Not every question has to be answered by the story teller.

 

[LHDLLB]

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While I don't -completely- agree is not like it never happened before, Ocean does has a track record. Regarding Summer, I don't really think that what happened to her will have much of a impact in the story, so far I think its relevant only regarding Nika and it works better this way, there is so more interesting plot points to explore than Summer.

 

[Penfold Mole]

She's in my dungeon...cell 2187

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[Maviarab]

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Glad someone caught that

 

[RNasc4444]

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Noooooo! You ruined it! I was gonna photoshop Summer's face on Leia's pic laying on that cell

 

[Elduriel]

Glad someone caught that

 

[White cat6]

That's a really interesting point about the uncle - if it was an actual uncle, you'd assume Noji would have their contact. But the idea that Nika doesn't keep any connection with his uncle through this trauma is strange: surely Noji would be enlisting their help? SO I guess as you say, a mf.

And yes, I'm hyped for the dojo and the bar opening. Screw it, I'm hyped for next chapter, all the bits. My guess is we'll get strung along, enough answers will be hinted, but they'll just give rise to more questions: Answers will be indirect, hinting at new theories. We're less than 20% of the way in renderwise, so Frist act sets the scene, second act explains the problem, third act, heroic problem solving, 4th act, it all goes to shit, relf reflection required, fth act, the true understanding.

That's at least how a lot of RPGs go. Mysteries have to be tantalising and revealing layers until that moment when all is reval, and everything falls apart for the MC. Then still time to rebuild their courage for the end game. Same same but different in this cas I guess.

About Uncle Nicky.
Nicky tells Jeffrey about the school team "My uncle taught me everything I know. I was the team, the rest were average." Thus, the "uncle's" style is to prepare one super player who will make the game.
During an argument with Katie in the club, Jenna accuses Katie's team of unfairly winning because Katie's teammates only wiggled their butts in front of Willie. Thus, it turns out that Katie's coach also prepared one super player who "made" the game. So maybe it was the same person who prepared both Nicky and Katie. And finally, coaches Hill and Stahl say that the first team only has a few first-class players, the rest are average. So I believe that "uncle" Nicky is the head coach of the first team.
"Uncle" probably has a direct relation to the appearance of Summer in Nicky's life and after the incident in the cabin, he was forbidden to date Nika. I don't expect much from Niki's visit to the Ayua gym because I can guess who he will meet there, but I find visiting the yoga section much more interesting.

 

[BobTheDuck]

About Uncle Nicky.
Nicky tells Jeffrey about the school team "My uncle taught me everything I know. I was the team, the rest were average." Thus, the "uncle's" style is to prepare one super player who will make the game.
During an argument with Katie in the club, Jenna accuses Katie's team of unfairly winning because Katie's teammates only wiggled their butts in front of Willie. Thus, it turns out that Katie's coach also prepared one super player who "made" the game. So maybe it was the same person who prepared both Nicky and Katie. And finally, coaches Hill and Stahl say that the first team only has a few first-class players, the rest are average. So I believe that "uncle" Nicky is the head coach of the first team.
"Uncle" probably has a direct relation to the appearance of Summer in Nicky's life and after the incident in the cabin, he was forbidden to date Nika. I don't expect much from Niki's visit to the Ayua gym because I can guess who he will meet there, but I find visiting the yoga section much more interesting.

I agree, I think William is the uncle. There were a lot of basketball scenes in the original version of WiaB, so it is not a stretch, but it is unknown yet if Ocean's kept that part the same. As we have previews of both Leia and Katie in gymwear there is all kinds of potential for this angle, we will see. We still have to wonder, if William is the uncle and was told to stay away, what does Nika believe about why the uncle is staying away? Nika is told his parents died, but what has he been told about his uncle? Because it is strange that he doesn't wonder why his uncle doesn't visit in the last 5 years. We know the uncle taught him basketball so he couldn't have been in the same car crash as the parents when Nika was 3.

I am interested in the dojo/gym with Ayua, because we've seen a few previews with Ayua's cousins? Sisters? Those she has mentioned before while drunk anyway. I think it will help establish a lot of clarity to who people are, even if it isn't told directly. And the yoga will be great because Layla seems like an interesting character.