yossa999

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Do you know how many render he does every two week?
Everything he's willing to share he publishes is the dev logs :)
So I can only make conclusions based on this.

There was a period when he made 1750 renders in two months which gives ~30 renders per day (but that's only SG without WiAB)
There were his benchmarks of the new workstation with the result:
"From now on, I aim for 70 renders a day, but I won't beat myself up if it's "only" 40-50."

Ofc, I think he overestimates as always, there are other tasks that take time, but to complete 3000 static renders in three months by the mid to end of the August he need to make "only" ~35 renders per day.

I know at least several devs who work with similar or even faster speed and produce ~300 renders per week. Yeah, their pictures aren't as advanced as Ocean's and doesn't contain dozens of characters in a single render. But they look pretty decent, pretty close in quality, 8K resolution and high quality character models.
EDIT: I mean they do it without any harm to the other aspects of the game, like writing the script, coding and other...

So it's doable, but with WiAB releasing at the same time and other ongoing activities like creating cinematics or testing and learning new software and animation tricks - I don't know.
 
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Everything he's willing to share he publishes is the dev logs :)
So I can only make conclusions based on this.

There was a period when he made 1750 renders in two months which gives ~30 renders per day (but that's only SG without WiAB)
There were his benchmarks of the new workstation with the result:
"From now on, I aim for 70 renders a day, but I won't beat myself up if it's "only" 40-50."

Ofc, I think he overestimates as always, there are other tasks that take time, but to complete 3000 static renders in three months by the mid to end of the August he need to make "only" ~35 renders per day.

I know at least several devs who work with similar or even faster speed and produce ~300 renders per week. Yeah, their pictures aren't as advanced as Ocean's and doesn't contain dozens of characters in a single render. But they look pretty decent, pretty close in quality, 8K resolution and high quality character models.
EDIT: I mean they do it without any harm to the other aspects of the game, like writing the script, coding and other...

So it's doable, but with WiAB releasing at the same time and other ongoing activities like creating cinematics or testing and learning new software and animation tricks - I don't know.
Thanks. He's currently sitting at 5100 renders (last post on discord). 40 renders per day, it's 480 every 12 days. Since he's fully focused on SG now, I think optimistically, Q3 is indeed doable.
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That animation is some quality work. But I'd agree that 8k renders for a single update is a bit of a stretch, he also probably knows that.
Yes, he is well aware of that, and was this even before the start of the development of S2.

The reason for this monster of a season start is, that Ocean plans to put it directly on steam. The mind play was, that the following chapters will be released as extra dlc for a lower price. At least was this the plan shortly after the steam release of season 1, currently I'm not really active on his discord but iirc this was also communicated open in discord in the past, and not only in a DM between him and me.
 
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Do you think we will have it before the end of 2025?
It looks like it, but if the first episode of season two is going to be big even compared to all the chapters of season one, it will all depend on how quickly the split-focus with the second game (WIAB) ends
 
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So not sure if this was talked about{probably was lol!} But what's the deal with Nami and the MC?
They act like bro and sis and make a big deal about it{especially Nojiko} and say to others "hey were roommates"{AVN talk for bro and sis lol!} But they can't be related{and you know they can't cause incest is not aloud on Patreon RIGHT?}

Is this why it's gets confusing? He was gonna make them related but Patreon killed that?
I bring it up because he pretty much tells her they can't be together during the pizza run at Vic's place.
{ of course you as the MC can decide anyway to be with her or not}I take it things will change here in season 2?
Just curious about it after hearing the incest got cut in{WIAB} And Nami is one of my favorites!:love:

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So not sure if this was talked about{probably was lol!} But what's the deal with Nami and the MC?
They act like bro and sis and make a big deal about it{especially Nojiko} and say to others "hey were roommates"{AVN talk for bro and sis lol!} But they can't be related{and you know they can't cause incest is not aloud on Patreon RIGHT?}

Is this why it's gets confusing? He was gonna make them related but Patreon killed that?
I bring it up because he pretty much tells her they can't be together during the pizza run at Vic's place.
{ of course you as the MC can decide anyway to be with her or not}I take it things will change here in season 2?
Just curious about it after hearing the incest got cut in{WIAB} And Nami is one of my favorites!:love:

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The current official story is that they were raised by Noji since they were toddlers (4 -6 yrs old when their parents "died in a car crash," I guess), and would naturally be close and pretty much like brother and sister. The original game, yes, they were brother and sister.

Yeah, a lot changed with WIAB's crashed development, and Patreon's eviction, which caused full reworks on both games, moving to Steam, and all the extra development that took.
 

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The current official story is that they were raised by Noji since they were toddlers (4 -6 yrs old when their parents "died in a car crash," I guess), and would naturally be close and pretty much like brother and sister. The original game, yes, they were brother and sister.

Yeah, a lot changed with WIAB's crashed development, and Patreon's eviction, which caused full reworks on both games, moving to Steam, and all the extra development that took.
So I take it we may see some changes on this then? Either way I'm still gonna bang her.....screw
what others think right? ;)
 

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So not sure if this was talked about{probably was lol!} But what's the deal with Nami and the MC?
They act like bro and sis and make a big deal about it{especially Nojiko} and say to others "hey were roommates"{AVN talk for bro and sis lol!} But they can't be related{and you know they can't cause incest is not aloud on Patreon RIGHT?}

Is this why it's gets confusing? He was gonna make them related but Patreon killed that?
I bring it up because he pretty much tells her they can't be together during the pizza run at Vic's place.
{ of course you as the MC can decide anyway to be with her or not}I take it things will change here in season 2?
Just curious about it after hearing the incest got cut in{WIAB} And Nami is one of my favorites!:love:

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There's possibly some more, but these are th important ones. If you take them literally, Nami and Nika are not related and are patreon compliant. What the intent is to make Nika and Nami's relationship make sense in the longer term, considering they both feel it's a big red line. We simply don't know how Ocean will explain this so it makes sense, it's currently not outlined and left deliberately vague.

Pre rework, different scenario. It's not worth thinking about too hard until we have more of the current canon story revealed.
 
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So not sure if this was talked about{probably was lol!} But what's the deal with Nami and the MC?
They act like bro and sis and make a big deal about it{especially Nojiko} and say to others "hey were roommates"{AVN talk for bro and sis lol!} But they can't be related{and you know they can't cause incest is not aloud on Patreon RIGHT?}

Is this why it's gets confusing? He was gonna make them related but Patreon killed that?
I bring it up because he pretty much tells her they can't be together during the pizza run at Vic's place.
{ of course you as the MC can decide anyway to be with her or not}I take it things will change here in season 2?
Just curious about it after hearing the incest got cut in{WIAB} And Nami is one of my favorites!:love:

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Ocean who has a foot in both camps, on one hand he has to sanitize SG on the other hand he likes the fact that Nami and Nika have a forbidden relationship a little too much
 

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There's possibly some more, but these are th important ones. If you take them literally, Nami and Nika are not related and are patreon compliant. What the intent is to make Nika and Nami's relationship make sense in the longer term, considering they both feel it's a big red line. We simply don't know how Ocean will explain this so it makes sense, it's currently not outlined and left deliberately vague.

Pre rework, different scenario. It's not worth thinking about too hard until we have more of the current canon story revealed.
Yeah this is what I mean....You can't really have a forbidden relationship if your not
related. And the reason besides what you have is when he tells her during the
Pizza run that others could use that against you/us but if their not related this just doesn't work.
But yeah I hear ya......guess we have to wait till the first chapter drops in season 2.
 

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"Why is she red" tho? :ROFLMAO:

masterful writing...
If you paid attention, Zara assumed the kids would be Nojiko's kids and of Asian descent, so she was still assuming that Nika and Nami are siblings. Hence: why the red, bacause that gene is dominant, and that Viking gene kicks all the non-ginger genes out of the pool when it shows up.

Also: this technically violates the Patreon terms, since, even if they're not officially adopted (explain that to me, how toddlers just rent rooms from Nojiko without being at least foster kids), they still have grown up together at Nojiko's. Nojiko's dialogue still treats them as more than tenants. Nika says that he loves Nojiko (that's not a landlady) multiple times. Patreon says that makes them defacto family.
 
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"Why is she red" tho? :ROFLMAO:

masterful writing...
That actually made sense you know...back when the game actually made any sense.

But when the retcons began :cool: , all shreds of logic and common sense went out the window. Still don't undertand why he won't rework the entire S1 script, remove those ambiguously stupid lines that don't fit the story anymore and actually create a believable background for both Nami and the MC.

So not sure if this was talked about{probably was lol!} But what's the deal with Nami and the MC?
I know right? It's like dealing with a bipolar writer with all the mixed messaging.

Long story short, they are siblings unless a publishing platform asks. In that case they are "non-sibling childhood friend-roommates" in a world where Child Services doesn't seem to be a thing. They were brought home together by Nojiko not-Cyrus Miyazaki on "Pick an Orphan off the Street Day" after both losing their parents in the same way at around the same time. If any of that sounds weird, unfeasible or convoluted, you must not be be a brilliant writer like Ocean.
 
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