VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[RNasc4444]

"Why is she red" tho?

masterful writing...

That actually made sense you know...back when the game actually made any sense.

But when the retcons began , all shreds of logic and common sense went out the window. Still don't undertand why he won't rework the entire S1 script, remove those ambiguously stupid lines that don't fit the story anymore and actually create a believable background for both Nami and the MC.

So not sure if this was talked about{probably was lol!} But what's the deal with Nami and the MC?

I know right? It's like dealing with a bipolar writer with all the mixed messaging.

Long story short, they are siblings unless a publishing platform asks. In that case they are "non-sibling childhood friend-roommates" in a world where Child Services doesn't seem to be a thing. They were brought home together by Nojiko not-Cyrus Miyazaki on "Pick an Orphan off the Street Day" after both losing their parents in the same way at around the same time. If any of that sounds weird, unfeasible or convoluted, you must not be be a brilliant writer like Ocean.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Still don't undertand why he won't rework the entire S1 script, remove those ambiguously stupid lines that don't fit the story anymore and actually create a believable background for both Nami and the MC.

I knew we would summon you XD
As usual I agree 100%, it's not even a core element unlike WiaB

"Pick an Orphan off the Street Day"

Honestly this is the best thing I've read today.

 

[Hazeti]

Every fan as the dev cycle of this continues on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on




This game peaked back in chapter 3.5 without the rewrites , sad cause it had almost everything , characters , intrigue and an incredible soundtrack

 

[Maccabbee]

That actually made sense you know...back when the game actually made any sense.

But when the retcons began , all shreds of logic and common sense went out the window. Still don't undertand why he won't rework the entire S1 script, remove those ambiguously stupid lines that don't fit the story anymore and actually create a believable background for both Nami and the MC.


I know right? It's like dealing with a bipolar writer with all the mixed messaging.

Long story short, they are siblings unless a publishing platform asks. In that case they are "non-sibling childhood friend-roommates" in a world where Child Services doesn't seem to be a thing. They were brought home together by Nojiko not-Cyrus Miyazaki on "Pick an Orphan off the Street Day" after both losing their parents in the same way at around the same time. If any of that sounds weird, unfeasible or convoluted, you must not be be a brilliant writer like Ocean.

I knew we would summon you XD
As usual I agree 100%, it's not even a core element unlike WiaB


Honestly this is the best thing I've read today.

"Pick an Orphan Off The Street Day" is sort of like an Anti-Purge Day, right?

edit: Fixed a typo

 

[Penfold Mole]

If you paid attention, Zara assumed the kids would be Nojiko's kids and of Asian descent, so she was still assuming that Nika and Nami are siblings. Hence: why the red, bacause that gene is dominant, and that Viking gene kicks all the non-ginger genes out of the pool when it shows up.
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. The genes causing red hair are recessive, so one sibling in the family can have red hair while others may be blondes or brunettes. Both parents have to have the red hair gene to have a red-haired child, while neither of the parents need to have red hair themselves. The red hair may skip several generations hidden and suddenly pop up again when a parent with the red hair genes has a child with someone who also has them.

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[Crashbullet]

Will there be a devlog today? I don't have enough water in my body

 

[Mamaragan]

Will there be a devlog today? I don't have enough water in my body

Next week

 

[Maccabbee]

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. The genes causing red hair are recessive, so one sibling in the family can have red hair while others may be blondes or brunettes. Both parents have to have the red hair gene to have a red-haired child, while neither of the parents need to have red hair themselves. The red hair may skip several generations hidden and suddenly pop up again when a parent with the red hair genes has a child with someone who also has them.

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It was really more of a joke, than a factual statement, but thanks. TIL: Science!

 

[hakuna-matata]

Will there be a devlog today? I don't have enough water in my body

We're also getting a release date.

 

[UncleFappy]

We're also getting a release date.

Optimistic.

(I hope you're right)

 

[hakuna-matata]

Optimistic.

(I hope you're right)

Call me Hakuna-Madamus

 

[alanrock]

We're also getting a release date.

 

[Jacowboy]

If you paid attention, Zara assumed the kids would be Nojiko's kids and of Asian descent, so she was still assuming that Nika and Nami are siblings. Hence: why the red, bacause that gene is dominant, and that Viking gene kicks all the non-ginger genes out of the pool when it shows up.

Also: this technically violates the Patreon terms, since, even if they're not officially adopted (explain that to me, how toddlers just rent rooms from Nojiko without being at least foster kids), they still have grown up together at Nojiko's. Nojiko's dialogue still treats them as more than tenants. Nika says that he loves Nojiko (that's not a landlady) multiple times. Patreon says that makes them defacto family.

That actually made sense you know...back when the game actually made any sense.

But when the retcons began , all shreds of logic and common sense went out the window. Still don't undertand why he won't rework the entire S1 script, remove those ambiguously stupid lines that don't fit the story anymore and actually create a believable background for both Nami and the MC.

Yeah, I know... I was just making fun of his shit translations... which by the way, he never bothered fixing, even for the steam release, so the first couple of chapters are still full of weird dialogues like that... but maybe I should've been clearer about the nature of my joke

 

[Maccabbee]

Yeah, I know... I was just making fun of his shit translations... which by the way, he never bothered fixing, even for the steam release, so the first couple of chapters are still full of weird dialogues like that... but maybe I should've been clearer about the nature of my joke

Emoji and GIFs are the only way to truly show tone in this forum. No worries!

 

[Dr.TSoni]

no incest, and their is another reason, that we don't know yet. Ocean has said more will be explained in the future on why it is forbidden for them.

I feel like their has to be more to this then just patreon too, cause why remove all the incest in Wiab except Leia. Wiab already got removed from patreon so no reason to remove incest from that game at that point, so he probably has a plan on things to connect the stories.

it's 100% patreon, keep in mind that there are games that are banned from patreon because third parties (real third parties) have created incest mods. Ocean is worried that the connection between SG and a WiaB with incest could damage SG.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

If he is that worried, he would of removed Leia as being our sister in that game too, cause that still can get back to him, but he didn't.

He recently backtracked, deleting the devlog where he talked about it from SubscribeStar. And to make things better it seems that even SubscribeStar is moving towards no incest. Or at least that's what was discussed in the WiaB camp

But go on belive what you want, you snd the other just live in the past, live before any changes, or any rework, cause you can't accept the new version. You and everyone have too much nostalgia, so go ahead and belive what you want.

I think if you go back through all my posts on the topic my only complaint "was better before" is just about the meeting between Nika and Ayua at Cyrus' house. A good part of what we "others" were discussing was that the mood of Nika and Nami's relationship doesn't make sense

 

[Don Sucio]

Yeah this is what I mean....You can't really have a forbidden relationship if your not
related. And the reason besides what you have is when he tells her during the
Pizza run that others could use that against you/us but if their not related this just doesn't work.
But yeah I hear ya......guess we have to wait till the first chapter drops in season 2.

At this point i think is just a problem without solution. Nami and Nika were created as sister and brother but now Ocean can´t have them in that way so they are just roomates. Makes any sense? Not for me, but it is what it is.

I have learned to think those two are related and that´s it, whatever Ocean says . Is such a very good relationship because it´s forbidden and he doesn´t want to eliminate that, so, roomates and that´s it. He is good with Patreon and the relationship continues in the game.

For real, just try to think they are related in the game and don´t pay attention to the "roomate" word, all is better this way, trust me.

 

[Maccabbee]

At this point i think is just a problem without solution. Nami and Nika were created as sister and brother but now Ocean can´t have them in that way so they are just roomates. Makes any sense? Not for me, but it is what it is.

I have learned to think those two are related and that´s it, whatever Ocean says . Is such a very good relationship because it´s forbidden and he doesn´t want to eliminate that, so, roomates and that´s it. He is good with Patreon and the relationship continues in the game.

For real, just try to think they are related in the game and don´t pay attention to the "roomate" word, all is better this way, trust me.

I ignore it, and play both with Incest (the multi-mod has it), and without (a separate clean install). The problem is that the words "Landlady/Tenant/Roommate" in AVNs just grate at me like sandpaper on my soul.

 

[X2JZcf]

So, Ocean said the update is coming in Q3, which means we probably won’t see it until Q4 at the earliest. That’ll make it two years since the last story update. Now i'm sad. And who knows, he might just throw in more board games again, taking up like a third of the update.

 

[TheDuke9999]

So, Ocean said the update is coming in Q3, which means we probably won’t see it until Q4 at the earliest. That’ll make it two years since the last story update. Now i'm sad.