VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Kazanovaromeo]

You're way too greedy man, first Mia and Sophie, now Sasha AND Cheeto...
If you want Cheeto, it'll be over my dead body And in battles with such high stakes I'm afraid... there is *no honor. *takes out revolver* C'mon bro, don't make me do this, walk away.

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All Is Fair in Love and War

 

[Vopeco]

He points it at her foot. He intends to do damage. Again over things he cares LESS about than Nami

As funny as some of that dark stuff is he just needs to chill. Gonna end up in prison and Nami will be alone then. For instance, he stole all that money which would be a felony with a lot of time. Nami cries her heart out and tells you you're all she's got when she finds out. I was thinking during that point, is it just me or shouldn't the MC be apologizing to her for acting selfishly? Yet Nami was the one that apologized for snooping, I thought the MC owed her an apology too since he did something even more dumb than what Nami did - that could've ended up getting him locked up(over revenge for Mila who he barely knows).

He needs to be smart about revenge on Bella and not take it too far. Or just be smart in general going after anyone he thinks deserves retribution.

 

[Paradigms]

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[Massagecook01]

Huh? What do you mean "Slug pace"? He's working on two projects with both quality and quantity first.
Second to mention, the beta version was out about 2 months ago. So do the math and tell me about pace.
AND third, I don't know about you guys but to even have Ocean's game on this site is a miracle. I mean like WTF Bruh, just think about it for a second. The story, the chemistry, the quality. Do you understand that There are lots of shitty games with shitty devs out there? In my opinion sure some dialogs are i don't know, fucked up or whatever, I don't care, or it doesn't bother me that much. But despite all of that, this game is a masterpiece.
If you can't wait for perfection, you don't deserve it and you don't have the right, to complain about the speed of reaching to perfection.
it's his job. Like literally his/her job to fucking pay for his/her rent, food and... So, if it's taking a lot of time and shit and you are like oh man, Ocean IS the one that is frustrated the most about it. Just wait for fuck's sake.

there is a differance between waitng and not paying and waiting and paying, would you wait for your food for hours and still pay or would you give an time limit on waiting and walk out, for those who are not paying yes you can complain but it's not vaild, but those that pay they have an right to except quality and speed to an product they are paying for and excuses does not cut it.

 

[Exterant]

I understand the purpose of the threat but the way Nika does it has always felt a bit excessive for my taste, so thankfully MC knows how to apply the right amount of pressure and not too much.


1) Possible sure. Still, doesn't mean anyone has to. I don't have to (and I won't!).
2) That's your opinion man...

That's impossible! Everyone loves Bella...

 

[PaxHadrian17]

As funny as some of that dark stuff is he just needs to chill. Gonna end up in prison and Nami will be alone then. For instance, he stole all that money which would be a felony with a lot of time. Nami cries her heart out and tells you you're all she's got when she finds out. I was thinking during that point, is it just me or shouldn't the MC be apologizing to her for acting selfishly? Yet Nami was the one that apologized for snooping, I thought the MC owed her an apology too since he did something even more dumb than what Nami did - that could've ended up getting him locked up(over revenge for Mila who he barely knows).

He needs to be smart about revenge on Bella and not take it too far. Or just be smart in general going after anyone he thinks deserves retribution.

Chapter 2 is being rewritten so we don't know what choices the MC will have in getting Bella's help against Mario. We may not know until we get the complete Season 1, where all of Chapter 2 is rewritten, all the paths (like the new one that is being added in chapter 2) are set and we can start from the beginning and see what happens based on new choices.

 

[Vopeco]

Chapter 2 is being rewritten so we don't know what choices the MC will have in getting Bella's help against Mario. We may not know until we get the complete Season 1, where all of Chapter 2 is rewritten, all the paths (like the new one that is being added in chapter 2) are set and we can start from the beginning and see what happens based on new choices.

It could change a little but the part I mentioned about Nami finding out what you did with Bella, the crimes you committed that night, is already in chapter 3 which is already finished, so that whole sneaking out at night thing you did with Bella in chapter 2 would have to stay, else Nami confronting you about the stolen money in chapter 3 wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Ottoeight]

It could change a little but the part I mentioned about Nami finding out what you did with Bella, the crimes you committed that night, is already in chapter 3 which is already finished, so that whole sneaking out at night thing you did with Bella in chapter 2 would have to stay, else Nami confronting you about the stolen money in chapter 3 wouldn't make any sense.

BUT there is a path where you don't sneak out and still 1) you make Nami happy because you sleep with her; 2) Mila isn't going to be charged; 3) you are able to pursue Bella all the same.

Triple Win.

So, what's the fuss about, I wonder.

 

[Ottoeight]

Chapter 2 is being rewritten so we don't know what choices the MC will have in getting Bella's help against Mario.

I guess you haven't played 4.5 beta yet. You don't need to do anything against the law: she will "help" you anyway. By the way, it's the opposite: you are helping her.

 

[Vopeco]

BUT there is a path where you don't sneak out and still 1) you make Nami happy because you sleep with her; 2) Mila isn't going to be charged; 3) you are able to pursue Bella all the same.

Triple Win.

So, what's the fuss about, I wonder.

Not fussing just pointing out that one of the routes that has to stay in chapter 2 after it is rewritten is that you go and steal money with Bella, because in chapter 3 Nami confronts you about the stolen money. Only thing that had me scratching my head is why the MC didn't apologize after Nami did.

And true but sleeping in Nami's room changes things, has different variables, as opposed to her sleeping in your room, and I not only prefer the sleeping in her room scene but also personally like that whole scene before you guys go to the lake and she asks you if you want to sleep in her room again, I found the whole thing pretty humorous and playful.

 

[DuckDairyDip]

How much reworking of old chapters is left after the full release of 4.5? Just the second half of chapter 2?

 

[Old Man Al]

How much reworking of old chapters is left after the full release of 4.5? Just the second half of chapter 2?

Yes.

 

[FunChaser]

I don't see Ocean mentioning the progress of Ch4.5 Full anywhere in that post...

Actually he did. He said that Chapter 5 will enter development this week. It means the rework of the first part of chapter 2 will be finished this week. Of course, we should wait for these 338 renders from ch. 3.5 to get new texture. According to my very optimistic estimate (1 hour per render) it will take about 2 weeks. I hope he'll drop a line about it in the next WiAB dev log.

 

[Derporito]

Why change Mila? It was so unnecessary to give her massive ass and tits

 

[Ottoeight]

Not fussing just pointing out that one of the routes that has to stay in chapter 2 after it is rewritten is that you go and steal money with Bella, because in chapter 3 Nami confronts you about the stolen money. Only thing that had me scratching my head is why the MC didn't apologize after Nami did.

But he did apologize. He enters her room at night and they make it up, which is even better than him apologizing on the spot after she scolded him.

And true but sleeping in Nami's room changes things, has different variables, as opposed to her sleeping in your room, and I not only prefer the sleeping in her room scene but also personally like that whole scene before you guys go to the lake and she asks you if you want to sleep in her room again, I found the whole thing pretty humorous and playful.

So, what was the fuss about, I wonder.

Don't answer me because I won't reply.

 

[Lurcher1]

I'm wondering if the renders he's working on are for the phone. I think he hinted that Chapter 5 should see the phone being brought in and he may be going back to rework the phone visuals in previous chapters.

Also, really looking forward to some crazy Nia in chapter 5...

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I guess you haven't played 4.5 beta yet. You don't need to do anything against the law: she will "help" you anyway. By the way, it's the opposite: you are helping her.

I never said you Had to break the law to be on the Bella path.

Here's my full quote:

"Chapter 2 is being rewritten so we don't know what choices the MC will have in getting Bella's help against Mario. We may not know until we get the complete Season 1, where all of Chapter 2 is rewritten, all the paths (like the new one that is being added in chapter 2) are set and we can start from the beginning and see what happens based on new choices."

I'm referring to not just the Mario part of the Bella path.

What is another key part of the Bella path early in Chapter 2?

When the MC goes to the gym with Jeff, original CH 2 - he has multiple paths he can choose that impact his relationship with Bella:



Do any of these choices go away? The choice to threaten Bella was originally a 'Dark Path' choice left over from early in SG before Ocean changed the tone to one of healing.

Does this choice go away or is it replaced by a different choice that plays out in CH 2?

Ocean has already said that he is adding another path starting in CH 2 (looks like it is Sasha related). He is not limited in his options to add/change pathing for other characters in the second half of the CH 2 rework. IF that prompts him to redo certain coding 'hooks' to make sure that SG flows well from CH 2 all the way through the end of Season 1, then I trust he will make those adjustments.

I have played CH 4.5 Beta... it would have been tough for me to make some of my earlier posts about Bella and the MC if I had not...

I have not played all the possible permutations though.

If you are referencing a particular part of the CH 4.5 Beta in your response, please share the specifics - I may not have seen what you are referring to if I did not make the appropriate choices to get that variation of the story.

Cheers!

 

[Mortarion]

there is a differance between waitng and not paying and waiting and paying, would you wait for your food for hours and still pay or would you give an time limit on waiting and walk out, for those who are not paying yes you can complain but it's not vaild, but those that pay they have an right to except quality and speed to an product they are paying for and excuses does not cut it.

Bullshit.

Chapter 4 Beta has dropped on 31. May



Chapter 4 Final has dropped on 24. July




Chapter 4.5 Beta has dropped on 25. Nov



That means roughly two months are gone between Chapter 4 Beta and Chapter 4 Final.

At the moment Ocean is moving in the same time window in terms of Chapter 4.5Beta to 4.5 Final.

Addtionally, from 4.5 Beta was Ocean dealing with Steam directly (he was forced to make trailer for it, what he has hated), then there was the christmas hollidays which he spent sick with the flu in his bed. Usually the most devs waste time to release a useless shitty christmas special, this is here not the case - which I'm glad for.
And he has moved accross the country to a new town and was busy to find a new tax office with patreon experience - what is not a easy task between the years in germany.

Taxes are generally no joke here in germany, the last thing (beside a homicide) you want here is trouble with the financial authorities, they hang someone out by the outstretched arm for pickling without warning.

Ocean was always honest and transparent with his supporters, was reliable and stable with his devlogs and updates - give and take a few days. Till now I have no reason to complain about Oceans work, sure thing I want a new update rather yesterday than tomorrow - I'm just a human being, like we all.

What makes just angry is that some random nobodys on a pirate board complain about delays and screaming "milking" with less than zero clue. Ironically, it is always those who shout the loudest but do not support the dev financially in any way.

 

[Aryanblood17]

incest tag removed?

 

[Ottoeight]

incest tag removed?

So what. Mods' stuff, I guess.

Who cares.