ProofreadingRUS

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I think it just changes some of the dialogue and changes what she writes about the MC in her diary. If you're dominant she'll treat you nicer and will write things about how she might be starting to like you on a deeper level and if you're submissive it's the opposite. I think this is going to have more of an impact with the dating system and a submissive Jenny might start to develop real feelings for the MC but a dominant Jenny will continue treating the MC like crap.
Oh is that what they meant.
I thought they were talking about him not her.
I though since he was forking over all that cash he was being dominated.
Now it makes sense.
 

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DC fired Dogeek and now he canceled his picarto premium so that we aren't able to watch old streams.

(He saves money wherever it is possible)

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He edited his OP on Reddit. He took responsibility and said it was his fault due to stress. Personality I had a high level of respect for him due to his coming in here and reddit and letting people know what was going on. I also hope this puts to rest some of the folks in here trashing the team saying they don't work hard to get the updates out in a timely manner. If that were true there wouldn't be much stress I would think. I wish him the best of luck.
I've heard DC talking a bit in one of the last stream he did. From how he talked about it and the way he avoided to say some things, my guess is that Dogeek was a bit "toxic" to work with.
DC fired Dogeek and now he canceled his picarto premium so that we aren't able to watch old streams.

(He saves money wherever it is possible)

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I think it best to say this one time and one time only... We only have speculation into what's going on. We don't have all the sides or all the details. And there's three sides to this issue: DC, Dogeek, then the truth. We probably aren't going to get the truth of the situation because this was an employer/employee type deal. We can certainly speculate. Up to you if you want to do it.

For me, doesn't change the fact that Dogeek is gone in this capacity and there's nothing I can do about it.

To each their own. We'll have to see how this works out with the production later.
 

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DC fired Dogeek and now he canceled his picarto premium so that we aren't able to watch old streams.

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Why would anyone want to watch old streams anyway? Realistically, how many people sit at home thinking, "Gee, I'm bored. I know, let's watch a DarkCookie stream from 6 months ago where they drew a bunch of stuff for 3 hours in complete silence. That sounds like fun."
 

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Why would anyone want to watch old streams anyway? Realistically, how many people sit at home thinking, "Gee, I'm bored. I know, let's watch a DarkCookie stream from 6 months ago where they drew a bunch of stuff for 3 hours in complete silence. That sounds like fun."
All his stuff is on Pornhub and it's used to look into what he's doing anyway.
 

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The submissive or dominant path for Jennie.
What does that even do?
Do you get to see more scenes or something like that?
The walkthrough is not very specific about that.
Whisch one is recommended?
it means you can either act like a little bitch or take control and be a man with regards to her
 
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Now you are saying the opposite of what the other guy said.
Does anybody else with common sense have a clue?
Go with what the first guy said.

Second guy is saying the same thing just more forcefully.
 

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Go with what the first guy said.

Second guy is saying the same thing just more forcefully.
It doesn't matter I used the Lain Mod and finished her path fast.
Now I am moving to the next character and almost ran into another loop with Diane but got out of it.
I was doing Diane and Debbie and almost broke the game again.
 

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The submissive or dominant path for Jennie.
What does that even do?
Do you get to see more scenes or something like that?
The walkthrough is not very specific about that.
Whisch one is recommended?
In the Summertime Saga wiki, Jenny's Route, it tells that you can break free during sex if you are dominant.

And you stand up for Debbie.

I never tried the submissive path, because I think Jenny is already to bitchy to give here more power.

I can't find any changes in the diary in the scripts for a submissive route. But maybe it has more influence during dating later.
 

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Finally got around to trying out the new stuff with Eve.

It's a surprisingly touching story, especially if you go with the version that has her as transgender, although the MC is suddenly really articulate and calm about a sensitive topic. He's adorably dumb the rest of the time, but suddenly woke as all fuck during conversations with Eve and Grace, which feels a little jarring. I see why it was done this way, but it's weird enough to comment on.

Also, gotta say: it does seem weird to go this way with Eve, of all characters. It would've made more sense to make Grace the possible trans girl, since it's hard to reconcile Eve the shrinking violet with Eve the drunken karaoke singer who hangs out with rappers and gives zero fucks.

It's a fun set of characters, an interesting dynamic, and a nice set of scenes with a few hints for the future in there, but it's starting to get weird and obvious how the game has exploded out into a complex web that the developers can't quite control.
 

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DC fired Dogeek and now he canceled his picarto premium so that we aren't able to watch old streams.

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As far as I'm aware he didn't even pay for it until now. He registered way back when it was free, they never changed it in his account and didn't charge him anything. About a year ago he even wrote a ticket to picarto about it, then a picarto mod joined the stream but they still didn't change anything. So it looks like they finally pulled the plug... :D

That said, he was willing to pay back then and I'm sure he's willing to pay now.
 
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I think it best to say this one time and one time only... We only have speculation into what's going on. We don't have all the sides or all the details. And there's three sides to this issue: DC, Dogeek, then the truth. We probably aren't going to get the truth of the situation because this was an employer/employee type deal. We can certainly speculate. Up to you if you want to do it.

For me, doesn't change the fact that Dogeek is gone in this capacity and there's nothing I can do about it.

To each their own. We'll have to see how this works out with the production later.
for whatever reason they decided to do a major overhaul in a single patch, on top of the new content. Just by checking the changelog, one can see that the latest patch had a ton of code modified, overhauled, or added. considering they only have two programmers for such huge workload. it's understandable about the stress.

if i understand correctly, Dogeek is the talented coder who provided the vision and structure of the underlying code base, which is a lot more complex, organized, and ambitious compared to other RenPy games. whether his absence will affect the future quality of their code. especially concerning uncompleted systems, including the dating game. (and the module system for modders and translators.)
 

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Regarding the new rap minigame: I get why they're doing the new icon system (makes it easier if they plan to translate it) but I did prefer the fill-in-the-blanks. With that said, does anyone else think the new rap lyrics are a lot worse and/or out of character? Chico's were okay. But Chad seems way more eloquent when rapping and reverts to monosyllables at all other times. As for Tyrone, I really liked his old rap better ("Don't front, don't fret, I'm coming with force, jumping in windows and kicking in doors") - they just needed to change his lines about mother and sister and it would have been gold.

Also, when you're done, they agree to stop hassling Eve, but when you go to talk to her, they continue to call out to her offscreen. It's like, bitch, I beat you in a shitty minigame ten times and you go back on your word?
 

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In the Summertime Saga wiki, Jenny's Route, it tells that you can break free during sex if you are dominant.

And you stand up for Debbie.

I never tried the submissive path, because I think Jenny is already to bitchy to give here more power.

I can't find any changes in the diary in the scripts for a submissive route. But maybe it has more influence during dating later.
I was submissive all the way and I broke free of the handcuffs.
I was able to go to her bedroom at night and not get kicked out.
I was also trying 2 characters at once Debbie and Dianne and broke the Mod.
So stick to one character to make the game less buggy.
 
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