- Feb 22, 2018
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^ That's the 1 and only place. And most people (including DC) hates it. MMF is likely to never happen again (and that 1 scene might get dumped when Erik's route's remake gets done in 3 years)
Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]
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- Sep 22, 2017
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I don't think DC hates it, every time he talks about it on stream it seems like he wants to have more scenes like that, but doesn't add them because people complain about it all the time.
- Feb 22, 2018
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Dudes get overly and personally offended/jealous when "sharing" gets into the game. "My girls, screw every other male, reeeeeee" is the gist of it. Same thing happened on 1 of the games I helped dev : maker polled if MC could share girls with his schoolmate/friend (MC and just this 1 dude). Riot ensued and became a meme on the game's Discord ....... Probably the same for Summertime
- Sep 22, 2017
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Personally I prefer when the scenes are between the mc and the girls. But if the sharing stuff is optional I don't really care that much. As long as the dev doesn't force the player into that path I'm fine with it.
Ohh damn it never knew I literally said tam i'll help him and got June for MC himself sorry Erik but I really hate you lmao
- Jun 19, 2017
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I mean, it's not like DC really cares. We got trans Eve, he basically chose to ignore the "remove choices" and the widescreen poll and he ultimately won't care about this stuff, either. Sure, it's all about priorities, but I'm quite happy that people don't really have a final influence on him when it comes to these decisions.
Man i wish there are more mmf scenes this harem shit is getting boring. I peronaly don't identify with the main character it's all fiction for me so i want to see some variety. Come to think of it there are no real ffm scenes as well . I mean ones where the girls interact whit each other. Is group sex a taboo for the DC or something ?! And i hope the dev wont drop the dp scene ( the only one in the game i might add) if he revisits Eric route. Its aways the same - missionary , cowgirl , blowjob , missionary cowgirl blowjob 1on1 church style lights off. And there is so much build up for kinky group sex. I still remember the let down whit the art teacher when she wanted to have an orgy . Or the hints that Odette wants to join the mc and Eve. The scene whit her and Eve sister were not even real ffm. Same goes for Debbie and her "friend". Cmon you can have a tranny and monster girl , as far as i can tell there is even gay scene down the line but the minute some one suggests group sex , no way man thats too much ! Can we at least get the option of the italian guy fucking his own wife whit the mc ? Is that too much to ask ?
- Feb 22, 2018
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Game revolves 99% around MC alone with 1+ girl(s). Not much we/you can do about it. DC likes to put MC alone and that's what we get. Maybe the 3some+ are tame cause it's too much hassle to draw every iteration possible with every girl engaging in said 3some+ 
Tony+Maria+MC will probably not happen either, especially if most people choose to dump him early in the route. Erik's 3some will probably either get removed or changed heavily once DC redoes the route for preg additions. And since it's MC alone doing all the dicking, any form of MMF is reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly low on the to-do list, if it will ever be done to begin with
Tony+Maria+MC will probably not happen either, especially if most people choose to dump him early in the route. Erik's 3some will probably either get removed or changed heavily once DC redoes the route for preg additions. And since it's MC alone doing all the dicking, any form of MMF is reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly low on the to-do list, if it will ever be done to begin with
Im not saying it has to be every girl . But as of this point the only real group scene is the one whit the dp (that you say will be removed). Every thing else it not real group sex. At least make one or two "hard" plot good group scenes. Thats all. The same way he made a tranny character for people who like that fetish.Game revolves 99% around MC alone with 1+ girl(s). Not much we/you can do about it. DC likes to put MC alone and that's what we get. Maybe the 3some+ are tame cause it's too much hassle to draw every iteration possible with every girl engaging in said 3some+
Tony+Maria+MC will probably not happen either, especially if most people choose to dump him early in the route. Erik's 3some will probably either get removed or changed heavily once DC redoes the route for preg additions. And since it's MC alone doing all the dicking, any form of MMF is reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly low on the to-do list, if it will ever be done to begin with
I dont really care much at this point . This game has long driven away from what it used to be. I dont even play the new updates any more. The good news is that there are others games on this site to scratch my itch.
Really liked the old Tammy route whit Eric btw . Incest or not. The idea of an older woman teasing and playing whit the two boys at the same time was hot for me. For me the turn on is the fact that the woman is the depraved and active one willingly and eagerly seducing them . Im not in to the whole turkish style harem, impregnation is not for me as well. When my wife was pregnat i basically had very little sexual interaction whit her. The bloated loose female forms just dont do it for me. And again for me the game is a fantasy most of the stuff here cant be dealt in real life -i would not fuck my sister or mother ( i find it discusting). But the idea that some depraved atrractive wench goes after her own son was an other fantasy thing i liked. That is gone as well. It seems im in the minority i dont pay for the game so i really cant complain. If people want more harem one on one , one girl after an other falling for this guy , hey they are ones paying. Im suprised only becouse so little people seem to vote for group sex mmf or group sex in general. Its very popular in porn tough it will be a popular fetish in this game too and more people whoud want it . Gues i was wrong.
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- Jun 19, 2017
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That's simply something I'll never really understand. The game will always be ~95% pretty standard vanilla MC+F stuff and still there are people who actually get angry if there's something different in the remaining 5%. Having said that, DC is certainly aware of these things and I'm still pretty sure that we'll get some interesting stuff over time, not the least because he and Sploosh want to implement that. I mean, Sploosh has been pushing for the Tony threesome for quite some time, just as an example and DC has been talking about Kevin stuff for years now. Maybe not soon, but eventually.
It's simple. They don't want to share "their women", because delusions of "alpha".
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The game was ment to be much more kinky at the begginig i think. Whit the incest , the fact that the sister was bisexual ( probably a prelude to group sex , maybe even whit in the family, the semi-forced sex whit her ). Tamy route whit her son and his friend whitch was one of the first made. Debbies sister and the hunts again of kinky incestual sex whit her own sister and the passed orgies that they had whit their husbands. But after patreon cracked down on incest as i remember the dev went in to damage controll mode promised ( a false promise i think at this point) that he will consider saving the incest in some form or reintroducing it in the end product. After that he saw that even whit out that major fetish (becouse it was hinted and implemented in many points in the game - the libraly books, Eric family , Mc family , Rumps, there was even a drawing of Iwanka giving him a bj in the cinema remember) the money kept coming . So i think that was the point where the game become so vanila , then he droped the forced scenes , again probably not so much becouse of his artistic view but to aplease patreon. I think the toning down of sexual fetishes is more like a autocensorship. At the end of the day the guy cares above all about his money flow no enybody personal fetishes not even his own . If tomorow patreon desited for instance that pregnacny sex shoud be droped you can bet your ass that the dev will do it . Im not saying that this is bad or good hell if i was making so much money i will do everying thing to keep the gig going. But at the end of the day i thinkg people will get tired whit the same old stuff that keeps getting introduced whit every new upd.
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@Ataman87:
I mean, there was nothing they could safely do when it comes to incest and I'd say the current compromise is fine as it is. After all it's really easy to bring it back eventually and even the current patch is decent. Whether you like it or not, money does of course matter and as long as it's feasible compromises will have to happen. Having said that, I don't agree with strawman arguments, what he may or may not do if patreon would do X - after all, there's no indication that any of that may happen.
I'd indeed say that the game is still more or less on track, despite some decisions. It just simply takes time and stuff like threesomes have to be well implemented to make sense. They for example bascally already comfirmed that an Eve/Odette threesome was/is planned.
When it comes to the Ivanka-BJ background for example, I actually remember the stream when it was drawn and I can tell you that there wasn't any special thought behind it. Someone suggested it and DC liked it and implemented it. As with so many details. At some point they'll have to spend the time to iron these things out.
The same goes basically with Jenny's old scene(s) - they simply were made early and were really badly implemented into her story, where MC bascially had to randomly visit her at night or in the shower without any reason or indication. It was bad game design and they corrected it without removing the scene. To me that's a decent compromise.
Else one should always consider that the game is far from done and that many scenes simply didn't happen because they are lot of work and take a lot of time. The librarian for example will get her story at some point (which is one that could likely involve Jenny, for example) and many other stuff is still in the air.
I mean, there was nothing they could safely do when it comes to incest and I'd say the current compromise is fine as it is. After all it's really easy to bring it back eventually and even the current patch is decent. Whether you like it or not, money does of course matter and as long as it's feasible compromises will have to happen. Having said that, I don't agree with strawman arguments, what he may or may not do if patreon would do X - after all, there's no indication that any of that may happen.
I'd indeed say that the game is still more or less on track, despite some decisions. It just simply takes time and stuff like threesomes have to be well implemented to make sense. They for example bascally already comfirmed that an Eve/Odette threesome was/is planned.
When it comes to the Ivanka-BJ background for example, I actually remember the stream when it was drawn and I can tell you that there wasn't any special thought behind it. Someone suggested it and DC liked it and implemented it. As with so many details. At some point they'll have to spend the time to iron these things out.
The same goes basically with Jenny's old scene(s) - they simply were made early and were really badly implemented into her story, where MC bascially had to randomly visit her at night or in the shower without any reason or indication. It was bad game design and they corrected it without removing the scene. To me that's a decent compromise.
Else one should always consider that the game is far from done and that many scenes simply didn't happen because they are lot of work and take a lot of time. The librarian for example will get her story at some point (which is one that could likely involve Jenny, for example) and many other stuff is still in the air.
All the priority in the game dev back then before the review of the devs patreon page was in the family routes - Eric , Debbie,Diane , Jenny . If you remember Jenny upg got postponed exacly becouse of that . No one knows what that upg whoud have looked like if that didnt happen. My point is that every fetish can be revisited of removed if Patreon wishes that of the dev he will never risk his income. There are other stuff that can be censored and removed - the scenes whit the nun ( bdsm) the scenes whit Eve (tranny), the pregnancy, especialy the bdsm if some one at Pathreon desides that it not in terms whit company "moral" or policy.[/QUOTE]
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Well, in that case her update would have happened earlier and not, like now, in 0.18. But it's of course true that the game was always supposed to be more about the schoolgirls than about the family. After all there are 9 main girls and only 3 of them are family members. The family stuff just happened to be first, that's why some people though this was supposed to be an incest game. Let's be honest, everybody who gives money to DC will have understood by now that for the foreseeable future the family won't play a big role and these people have probably stopped giving money long ago.
Sure, but you are making a totally hypothetical point. It's like saying DC may lose interest in SS tomorrow to start a new game called blue oyster saga which is exclusively about Kevin fucking all the boys in town. It may of course happen but it's not likely and thus not really worth arguing about.
- Feb 22, 2018
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