Dragon59

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Apr 24, 2020
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I respect your opinion, although I disagree with it,
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but that’s an opinion, in your case and that of some people, and I and others think differently,
In my view, donation is when nothing is expected in return,
kind to some charity, donate toys or clothes to the needy.
And when you donate to a breeder, we are expecting something in return,
this is called merchandise.
If someone here supports a developer but doesn’t expect an update from the developer, tell me, that is,
if someone here donates to a developer, but does not download their game,
then yes, it can be called a donation, but I don't think anyone does that.
You said you donate to a creator to create art, but he creates art for himself?
Or for people who "donated"?
This patreon business was just a name they created to not look like buying a product.
In short, if a developer doesn't deliver a game, nobody donates,
and if nobody donates, he doesn't deliver the game,
in short, this is called buying and selling a product.
I know that I will take some falcepalm, I already got used to these kind of people.
But as I said at the beginning, I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it.
Some will agree with his or my opinion, it is part.
I just made a comment, not wanting to change your opinion, nor am I going to change mine.
And if possible, does anyone have a complete save game for this version?
No desire to play all of it, despite not knowing if it is big or not.
Are you familiar with how patronage of the arts works? Patronage in the arts involves providing support to artists in order to give them the freedom to create works. As I understand it, Jack Conti first created Patreon in order to help support independent music artists. It's not a tit-for-tat arrangement. The National Endowment for the Arts in the US does not pay for individual works, it pays to allow artists to create. That's what patronage has meant for a long time, even though some patrons in history have expected to receive the works of art. There is no physical works that can be owned exclusively by a patron, so that can't apply here.
It's not an opinion that's literally Patreon's stated business model.
Well said.
Yeah, the game is free for people to play. That being said he is getting money from patreons to make the game. Let's not kid anyone the people that sign up for his patreon are supporting the making of the game. $69,000 worth of money each and every one month for working on the game. What I am trying to say is, I do not feel the amount of content that is released plus the length of time it take for the new content. Is anywhere close to a $69,000 a month price tag. It feels like a slap in the face. (This is my opinion, everyone is free to feel different.)

He may be a perfectionist but if all the updates are just him fixing his artwork and reworking part of the game he has already done. To me, his focus is on the wrong stuff then. It would make more scenes to work towards finishing the game. Afterward, go back and revise the art and tune up the story.

As for comparing him to other creators. Just cause he is the first to create something that doesn't make him immune to being compared to others. Especially if others deliver content that is superior to what he has been delivering.

I have stopped being a patreon a while back. Also, I know all of this is my own opinion if you or others feel that what DC is delivering enough to justify your $69,000 a month. All the more power to you and best wishes to all.
That was your right as a former patron. If you are not satisfied with an artist, pull your support. For instance, there are a few developers I've removed and others I've brought down to $1 because I no longer felt there were other artists more deserving of my patronage.
 

srksrk 68

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Hi Folks,

Version 1.00 of the is up with the proper nauthifications of the new Odette Halloween content.

Version 0.20.6-1.00:
  • Naughtification of Odette Halloween scene.
  • Added blinking and breating animations for new Odette Halloween content.
  • Fixed an issue with everyone blinking on dialog advance when parameter BLINKING has been changed.
And don't be freaked out by Odettes blinking Vampire eyes. That's intentional ;)

Enjoy!
 
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Joey's Conscience

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DC earns that much because the patrons consider his work worthy of the money they put in, and people are free to spend their money however they like. If you are a Patron, and are dissatisfied with the content, pull your money out. Enough people doing that will send a message loud and clear. If you are not a patron, you are playing a pretty good game, that the dev put a lot of work into, absolutely free. So your complaint is that you aren't getting enough for what other people paid for? wow

Especially if others deliver content that is superior to what he has been delivering.
Are they though? SS is not some koikatsu game, all the art and animation is made from scratch. If you have other indie games with that level of quality, please let me know, I'm missing out on some gems.
 

monopz

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Jul 31, 2017
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I first played this game like 2 months ago, so I don't have the years-long frustration everyone else does but I get it I guess.
I've been playing a ton of games the last few months and I always feel like updates for ALL of them are lackluster. At least with Summertime Saga, the animations are good and the drawings are hot. Because of that, I feel like it's still good. To me, it's "THE" game.
The vast majority of games on here are getting under $1000 per month on Patreon. So most of them usually have to do this stuff in their spare time, you also are talking about spending 100-200 hours to create content that most people will complete in 2-3 hours at most if they take their time.

Just look at what it takes to make super long games, Cyberpunk 2077 had it's teaser trailer in early 2013 and the game is finally releasing in late 2020. That is a huge developer with a large budget, now imagine how much work one guy has to do to make these games. Summertime Saga is the exception here, they get a ton from Patreon and have a fairly decent sized staff. Despite that animating all this stuff, and doing all the coding takes far more time, and effort than how long it takes to experience the content.
 

Toolman6971

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I've been a patreon of DC's for 3 years. In all that time I've never felt the need to complain about any of his work. He gets an update out when it's ready with minimal bugs. If he was putting out shitty updates and never fixing bugs I wouldve stopped my subscription. Maybe its my age, but I've never seen a need to complain about a good product. Thanx DC.
 

Rex72

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As of now I have played up to the "date" with eve on the roof and I have seen many continuity errors in many situations. One example, I cut the grass but the seen with mom in the landry happend the next day not just after when it was suposed to. I get the inpresion that this happens alot more this update 20.6 than ever before, has some thing gone wrong with the program/game?
 

Omnikuken

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Feb 22, 2018
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.... snippppppp

Especially if others deliver content that is superior to what he has been delivering.
As another dude asked above : show us some game(s) where everything is hand-drawn and animated that can outperform Summertime
I have stopped being a patreon a while back. Also, I know all of this is my own opinion if you or others feel that what DC is delivering enough to justify your $69,000 a month. All the more power to you and best wishes to all.
You sound like 1 dude is paying everything alone : let's do basic math > 69000$/~26000 patrons = roughly 2.65$ each. Most coffee places (used to) charge way more for flavored water. And that's once every day-ish for some people. While you pay 2.5$ a month to help DC make a game, yet slobbers around here call that a milking scam ......
 

Sypher1976

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Oct 24, 2020
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Been trying to progress past the Iwanka party scene to the guard. But, it never advances, even thou I have the required Charisma point. Been at it for 2 weeks, finally gave up. Game is bugged.
 

DragonFire

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Jul 30, 2017
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I'm not a Patron of this game so I can't complain, however based on these fact bellow I will not become a Patron either:

19+ hours of replaying version 0.20.5 wasted, old saves doesn't work, again!
It already has 26,356 Patrons, netting in a $69,319 a Month!
With that kind of income it should be possible to not just fix bugs and put in a little new content, with that kind of income it should be possible to hire people for larger contents, bug testing prior to release, heck even voice acting!?!

We've seen it before, the more money a game makes the more lazy it's devs becomes. Am not saying that's true for all games or devs, but it's a "trend" I've noticed a lot the past years.

I did enjoy playing this game once, but I did not enjoy having to replay everything every time a new version came out, just to see a little bit of new content. I did not enjoy having to download the whole game again either, for what could have been done with a patch download.

But again, I can't complain because I'm not a patron, however I can voice my opinion and thoughts.
Have a nice day folks and stay safe :)
 

Omnikuken

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Feb 22, 2018
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I hope DC releases a part 2. Having the suggestive dialog about Eve going to the crypt is kinda pointless if that never becomes an option.
1/2 the game is teasing and cliffhangers that go nowhere, this is just another 1 and nothing will (probably) happen
Let's just agree that this update is extremely lackluster for what I wish could say was the first time and leave it at that.
This update is a bugfix patch every larger build gets. You got a free scene added as a bonus since it's Halloween.
 

disappointment31415

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Jan 11, 2020
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The game crashes after I deliver the milk from Diane to Tony's and I have to go into the back.

Exception: DynamicImage u'maria_body_b_[M_maria.outfit]_falling[M_maria.pregnancy]': could not find image. (u'maria_body_b_casual_falling')

Anything I can do to bypass this?
 

Joey's Conscience

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Sep 28, 2020
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I'm not a Patron of this game so I can't complain, however based on these fact bellow I will not become a Patron either:

19+ hours of replaying version 0.20.5 wasted, old saves doesn't work, again!
It already has 26,356 Patrons, netting in a $69,319 a Month!
With that kind of income it should be possible to not just fix bugs and put in a little new content, with that kind of income it should be possible to hire people for larger contents, bug testing prior to release, heck even voice acting!?!

We've seen it before, the more money a game makes the more lazy it's devs becomes. Am not saying that's true for all games or devs, but it's a "trend" I've noticed a lot the past years.

I did enjoy playing this game once, but I did not enjoy having to replay everything every time a new version came out, just to see a little bit of new content. I did not enjoy having to download the whole game again either, for what could have been done with a patch download.

But again, I can't complain because I'm not a patron, however I can voice my opinion and thoughts.
Have a nice day folks and stay safe :)
Try saving at the overworld, and then loading in the newest version. My saves worked fine when I updated to 20.5 and 20.6 by doing that, as was instructed. If that still doesn't work it's likely an issue on your end, not really the game's fault.
 
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