Joey's Conscience

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What a Legend!, Our Red String, Seeds Of Chaos All as far as I know look to be hand-drawn and animated.
Have you actually played those games? Asking because looking them up on PH, Our Red String and Seeds Of Chaos have no animation whatsoever in their H scenes.
What a Legend is the only one that does, and it's getting rewarded for it. Only on version 0.3, 6 months of development and already 4k on Patreon. At this rate, it might reach tens of thousands in a couple of years, and people will start having this same discussion.

Not attacking you or even you questioning DC's commitment. Just sayin that your examples dont really prove your point of "other devs are delivering more quality for less"
 

Skode

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Judith still has like no content after all this time? :cry:
Isnt this game almost entirely driven by Patron polls? They decide what content is focused on in the future and then DC literally like some Jukebox has to come up with said content focus based on the results (so unlike most games he cant map out in his head a year in advance regarding content added or story he wants to take place as votes might go elsewhere). Its a very fan friendly approach (at least to ones not just stealing said content cost free haha) so yeah i wouldnt take it personal if any particular fave character of yours still feels kinda left out compared to others. Thats democracy for you my friend. Its also why updates take so long - kinda hard to get ahead of a curve when you dont know what direction said curve is going as your not the one steering the ship.
 
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DragonFire

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You know what they say: If it sounds like a duck and it walks like a duck...
Well it's not a duck...
Others here got slammed on for complains while not paying and I can understand such argument, but it doesn't prevent one for having an opinion.
Being honest can inspire a dev to improve, licking ass and say everything is dandy won't.

I replayed the whole 0.20.5 when it came out, just to see that all saves, including auto saves, had the yellow warning sign on them in 0.20.6
Have loaded up 0.20.5 to make a save on the overview as someone suggested, same issue when starting that in 0.20.6
When loading a save from the prior version, it informs to be patients because the game is in alfa state etc etc.. either load another save or start over.. yadayda.. bangbang.. game could get corrupt if not.. blabla..

Well, I'm not gonna bother with it, my time is too precious for that risk, so guess I'll just wait a few years and hope they'll make a final completed version by then, so replaying that will make some sense.
Because it's not the first time, it's every time and apparently others have complained, paying patrons even, look at their public patreon download notes: Old saves should work.. should.. hell that's just not good enough is it?

And yes I do support a few devs with money if I feel they are worth it, so it's not about being a bitching freeloader, it's about being a concerned and honest gamer who once saw great potential. Does that smell like a duck?
 

Omnikuken

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^ Every prior save has that warning. It's there so lamers can't come around and whine they lost their save. You've been warned and accepted the risk, deal with yourself now. Just like debug menu tells you it will screw up your game epicly, you even have to type you understand the risks. Guess what happens ? Noodles use it, fuck themselves up and then wonder why the game doesn't even start

And since about 0.19.5, just click through the save warning, let it do its stuff (even if it tells you whatever bad will happen) and just play as normal. Unless you went overboard with mods or debug menu or just saved at random (another thing said time and time again), everything should work fine
Summertime saga used to be something I looked forward to every time an update came up. However starting all over again and again is cumbersome just to get new content in the game. I still don't see why he can't make the game use old saves its been years of development and you think that be one of the basic things of any game to have. I mean this is key to make someone feel like they are making progress in the game.

The story is also very lackluster and barely seen any sort of development because the dev wants to do some short story line here and there. The teacher and roxy update were great however after that it felt like updates contain nothing. My only wish for this game is to get a decent story and ending after so long.

This is just my opinion and view of the game from playing for years. People can spend their money however they want but everyone can still critic the game.
It's more a problem with how Renpy hates itself when you go tinker back and forth in the code (and since every update or so remakes the start of the game, the code can't roll itself back with stuff that get changed before your save happens in the timeline). As long as they re-do most of the beginning every build, we'll have to either pray to RNGesus our older save just resets 1-2 routes or start a new game. Or not and just come in here to cry about how skipping the 1st week by holding CTRL for about 5 mins and then getting to the new stuff is literally the worst torture known to mankind. After 4-5 months of waiting, such horror
anyone know how to get the scene with diane of her on the milking machine like the one in the game preview?
It's not in the game anymore. Find a pre-0.18 ish build and see it there. Don't even try to cross-build save. Or if you do, don't come asking why your PC just melted itself
 
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Badjourasmix

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Event though 0.20.7 is just bug fixes, all of you mother huggers should download it and update your saves just to be sure they will be compatible with the next update. I really don't want to see a bunch pages of people just complaining that they can't use saves from the previous version when dc releases the new update.
 

Dragon59

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Judith still has like no content after all this time? :cry:
Judith was voted for 0.23...
Well it's not a duck...
Others here got slammed on for complains while not paying and I can understand such argument, but it doesn't prevent one for having an opinion.
Being honest can inspire a dev to improve, licking ass and say everything is dandy won't.
As far as I know, DarkCookie isn't active on F95. I don't think he'll see it. All these complaints, I mean opinions are only seen by other F95 users.
 
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Trapezio

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Funny, Eve's story was what endeared me to the game.

Are you a patron? If not, what's he milking you of? What's your stake in this discussion?
Here we are again.

I'm just a guy who used to love this a game a lot.

I used to follow his Picarto streaming. Everytime.

The story was funny, the dialogues were witty and humorous, the characters had character. Most of all, DC himself wrote the story.

Then, everything changed.

I think it was around the Roxxy's update that the game made a radical change of direction. A complete turnabout.

He started to remake everything in order to please as many people as possible. It became a blank slate where DC put anything that pleases his patrons and his Picarto streamers. I realized it when during a streaming he created out of the blue that shitty Kim character. He didn't have anything to do with anything.

p.s.: I guess you don't know who Tuuku and Pilly are. They are his Picarto followers: he created, taylor-made and named those characters for them and according to them. This is what SS became: everybody's whore.
 

Sothyr

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I know it is pretty useless to post it here. It would have been made more sense to use 20.5.x instead of 20.6 or 20.7 for smaller updates like halloween or just bugfixes.

But hey, everyone knew the next "big" update would 20.8, not 20.6. So I do not know why it is even worth to complain. DC will not change anything. Full updates will need 3-4 months and we can live with it or not.

Best way to play this game and most other crowdfunding projects is to put the game 1 or better 2 years away. To play it again after 6-8 full number upates is much more satisfying instead of getting with every update angry.
 
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Yakis0ba

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Noooo, no NTR. Do you see how much time it takes for DC to release an update. And you suggest him to add NTR content even though many people don't like NTR. It would waste his time. Let DC make a game that satisfies everyone and does not upset others.
Well actually he already upset many people with his long update schedule and releases that has unsatisfactory amount of h-scenes.
I'm still mad at his Eve redesign. She looked real before; now I can't help thinking she looks like a kitten.
 

j4yj4m

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p.s.: I guess you don't know who Tuuku and Pilly are. They are his Picarto followers: he created, taylor-made and named those characters for them and according to them. This is what SS became: everybody's whore.
I think you aren't aware that the whole character thing started way before Tuuku and Pilly and has essentially been part of the game since the start. Cedric in the gym is one of his early picarto users, as are Mr. Bubbles, Cpt. Terry or Micoe. Just because you became aware of it around Roxxy's update, doesn't mean that it started back then.
 
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