Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[Mee&Mee]

Wooow six month for this?
v0.20.15 (Pre-tech - Part 5):

New Content:

• Seven new animations, spread over multiple events with initial and repeat dialogue variants.
• New button dialogue for Katya and Khadne to flesh out their back-stories and access repeatable content.

Bug Fixes:

• Fixed Daisy losing her arms and face when given a pizza in the garden.
• Resolved replay leak in Roxxy's bedroom sex scene that could be used to unlock her boobjob scene.
• Adjusted the frames of Odette's blowjob animation to correctly fill the screen.

tasting good your milk huh?

 

[Moonman1]

Really need new maria scene.

 

[Sothyr]

Hi.

Isn't the incest patch compatible with the language packs?

The incest patch is in english. And made exactly like language packs and overwrites english text lines. How should it work with for example an german or italian language pack?

 

[j4yj4m]

yeah i especially noticed this during the main story which was so weird tonally.and suddenly the game introduces human trafficking, murder and MC standing there with a gun about to shoot some russian mob boss like in a korean thriller or something. it was just weird.

May I ask if you actually played the main story as a whole back then? It's really not that bad if you start from "day 1" and just play until it ends. Sure, there's are some ups and downs and comical elements, but the overall mood is certainly darker compared to the rest of the game, which is pretty fitting, honestly. After all it's a story about finding MC's dad's murderer and dealing with the bad guys in town.

i was so sure during the whole time that MC's father would still be alive and to stay true to the game's tone he disappeared for some dumb reason that's actually sort of funny but nope.

What? To have him coming back finding his son fucking his daughter and wife? I never even thought about the possibity of him beging alive, honestly. And I think that pretty much goes for 99% of the players.

 

[APoc1]

yeah i especially noticed this during the main story which was so weird tonally. you've got all this dialogue you can't take serious at all from ricardo and keanu reeves to tony seeing you as his son and asking you to impregnate his wife while he watches because you delivered pizzas for a week for him... and suddenly the game introduces human trafficking, murder and MC standing there with a gun about to shoot some russian mob boss like in a korean thriller or something. it was just weird. i was so sure during the whole time that MC's father would still be alive and to stay true to the game's tone he disappeared for some dumb reason that's actually sort of funny but nope.

honestly i wish DC would hire a decent writer, he definitely has the money for it. the game still being written by non-pros is his decision.

Probably boils down to friendship/loyalty type of scenario. I don't know the history but I am guessing the writer and DC were the first guys on the team maybe a coder too unless DC was doing art and coding at first and then hired all those other guys that mucked up the code which brings us to where we are now. I really don't expect a massive improvement on the writing side novelists and script writers are different animals and I suspect with out having any actual knowledge the writer is more in the novelist camp. It would explain the pacing issues and the seemingly out of left field dialog as well as the lack of development through the dialog. There are hybrids though that can do both like RR Martin he managed to give all his characters a different voice while keeping the story narrative going strong but just look how long he takes to finish anything I mean shit I have been waiting half my life to finish GOT. It is rare to see masterpiece material in a game dev. cycle it just takes a really long ass time to get it right.

 

[j4yj4m]

Probably boils down to friendship/loyalty type of scenario. I don't know the history but I am guessing the writer and DC were the first guys on the team maybe a coder too unless DC was doing art and coding at first and then hired all those other guys that mucked up the code which brings us to where we are now.

Sploosh joined the team for 0.14.3, which was Aqua's update. The main coder did actually change 3 times (4 times if you include DC, who did it at first), which is part of the reason why there's now a tech update happening.

Last but not least I'm still not really sure what people actually expected from this specific update. They managed to add scenes for 3 very minor characters, giving each of them a bit of character and some background, while not breaking Nadya's character. That's all that was really needed if you ask me, given that they weren't ever supposed to get more than these few lines in the first place.

Next to that one should remember that Nadya and Jab are actually real people from Russia/Ukraine and I'm pretty sure that Jab actually helped with parts of the dialog. As said above, there may simply be some cultural differences at play in some details, which make it harder for people form western europe or even the US to appreciate it.

 

[McSlut]

May I ask if you actually played the main story as a whole back then? It's really not that bad if you start from "day 1" and just play until it ends. Sure, there's are some ups and downs and comical elements, but the overall mood is certainly darker compared to the rest of the game, which is pretty fitting, honestly. After all it's a story about finding MC's dad's murderer and dealing with the bad guys in town.

yeah i played the whole main story from the beginning. i guess i just didn't like the game gettind darker or making an attempt at a more serious story at all. tonally it made no sense to me that you go from talking to keanu reeves to having sex with a cow and suddenly the game becomes a semi serious thriller. it didn't work for me at all and i wish the game would have stayed tonally consitent throughout. so yeah i totally expected MC father to still be alive and as for him being okay with fucking MC his daughter and wife. i mean much much weirder shit happened in this game. like MC impregnating half the towns female population with no repurcussion or MC having sex with a fish or cow girl.

or maybe everyone would just agree to keep this shit a secret from your father, i don't know i'm sure a halfway decent writer could have made it work

 

[VictorMC]

well wating 6 mo for another tech update xD

 

[MurkyTurtle]

the pre tech updates wouldn't be so bad if the dialogue wasn't so goddamn awful. i know nobody cares about the russian girls but man. it really takes effort not to skip this dumb shit. with mc and landlady the dialogue served a purpose, like slowly watching her corruption is what made the text spicy. with eve the dialogue was all about getting to know her insecurities which was very romantic when you helped her get past them. with roxxy it was all about seeing how her character changes from bitch to cute girlfriend. with these russian girls it's just retarded meme writing. BLYAT! SVETLANA MADE VODKA FACTORY GO BOOM! GO MAKE SEXY TIME WITH HER TO CHEER HER UP. DAVAI". i'm literally losing iq points just reading this shit.

Man, you weren't kidding, it feels like it was written at gunpoint. All three of them play the cold Russian stereotype to the goddamn hilt, ranging from "completely disinterested" to "mildly uncomfortable" as you're trying to to talk to them. It's just the MC standing around looking gormless while they babble in short bits of alternating English and Russian until Nadya finally screams at them to just fuck you already so the game can move along. These are literal sex slaves that are supposed to have been liberated, only to end up still chained to the factory for the remainder of the game. With all the trouble they took to make the character assets they couldn't have you show them around town for a bit? Have them interact with someone other than the idiot henchmen or the screeching Nadya?

These aren't characters, they're just dumb sprites you have to click through the shitty dialogue on until you get to the sex scene or two that represents the end of their involvement in the story. For a game that gave a lot of depth to tertiary characters like Grace in just a few short scenes, the writing is shockingly disengaged. I think the team is just as sick of the small pre-tech crap as the rest of us.

 

[Dave98424]

I lost interest in this game years ago and basically forgot about it. Does the sister ever stop being a bitch to the MC ?.

 

[APoc1]

Sploosh joined the team for 0.14.3, which was Aqua's update. The main coder did actually change 3 times (4 times if you include DC, who did it at first), which is part of the reason why there's now a tech update happening.

Last but not least I'm still not really sure what people actually expected from this specific update. They managed to add scenes for 3 very minor characters, giving each of them a bit of character and some background, while not breaking Nadya's character. That's all that was really needed if you ask me, given that they weren't ever supposed to get more than these few lines in the first place.

Next to that one should remember that Nadya and Jeb are actually real people from Russia/Ukraine and I'm pretty sure that Jeb actually helped with parts of the dialog. As said above, there may simply be some cultural differences at play in some details, which make it harder for people form western europe or even the US to appreciate it.

Okay so DC started the concept and wrote the first parts of the game and then hired sploosh that can explain some of the tone changes I suppose.

As far as what people expect from updates this is the web many folks just want someone to hear them complain because they are disappointed they can't finish the game on "their time line" and then you get the I got the game for free milkers adding their chaos to the mix and in the end you get a chaotic pile of posts with a few people who are willing to rationally discuss game aspects without getting hyperbolic about it. kind of like going to a flea market 95% of the shit there is junk but you may find some good stuff if you look.

 

[Badjourasmix]

yeah i especially noticed this during the main story which was so weird tonally. you've got all this dialogue you can't take serious at all from ricardo and keanu reeves to tony seeing you as his son and asking you to impregnate his wife while he watches because you delivered pizzas for a week for him... and suddenly the game introduces human trafficking, murder and MC standing there with a gun about to shoot some russian mob boss like in a korean thriller or something. it was just weird. i was so sure during the whole time that MC's father would still be alive and to stay true to the game's tone he disappeared for some dumb reason that's actually sort of funny but nope.

honestly i wish DC would hire a decent writer, he definitely has the money for it. the game still being written by non-pros is his decision.

I think for most character stories in the game, the writing is fine. But yeah it's hard to take the main story seriously when it involves murder and human trafficking and at the same time most of the characters are parodies of IRL people and dialogues are still very comedy oriented.

 

[halluva]

All three of them play the cold Russian stereotype to the goddamn hilt

I have to imagine that whoever wrote their dialog is the same person that turned Eric and his mom into a bunch of Jewish stereotypes and caricatures. Seriously, the scenes in his basement hit me like a ton of bricks; at no point before then were they at all written like that and then suddenly they're walking off the comic pages of Der Stürmer

 

[j4yj4m]

yeah i played the whole main story from the beginning. i guess i just didn't like the game gettind darker or making an attempt at a more serious story at all. tonally it made no sense to me that you go from talking to keanu reeves to having sex with a cow and suddenly the game becomes a semi serious thriller. it didn't work for me at all and i wish the game would have stayed tonally consitent throughout.

It's odd that I was never bothered by that, but maybe that's because I knew that DC wouldn't go as far as to add actual rape and stuff. I actually likedt that MC was shown as somewhat decisive and serious compared to his usual self. To me it underlined, that there have always been these two different main objectives, one that deals with the death of his dead and one that deals with this whole prom/dating thing. It's kinda fitting how you describe it, it's like a thrillerish on one side and american pie on the other.

so yeah i totally expected MC father to still be alive and as for him being okay with fucking MC his daughter and wife. i mean much much weirder shit happened in this game. like MC impregnating half the towns female population with no repurcussion or MC having sex with a fish or cow girl.

or maybe everyone would just agree to keep this shit a secret from your father, i don't know i'm sure a halfway decent writer could have made it work

Really? To me that last part would have been worse than being dead and really unfitting for the game. DC usually really tries to be good to MC's buddies/friends (like Terry, Harold, Erik, etc.) and to not cuck them. I vastly prefer to have some closure than having to deal with this whole NTR aspect. I mean, there's a reason why there's no dad in 95% of incest games.
It would have been strange if every man in town is suddenly ok when MC fucks their wife. You can do that once or twice, but not like 4 or 5 times.

For a game that gave a lot of depth to tertiary characters like Grace in just a few short scenes, the writing is shockingly disengaged. I think the team is just as sick of the small pre-tech crap as the rest of us.

I'm sorry, but that comparison is off. Grace is a pretty popular secondary character, with multiple appearances across several quests and stories, while these three were literally just added to the game, so the warehouse isn't just full of dudes.

 

[McSlut]

I think for most character stories in the game, the writing is fine. But yeah it's hard to take the main story seriously when it involves murder and human trafficking and at the same time most of the characters are paradies of IRL people and dialogues are still very comedy oriented.

it kinda blows my mind that the writer(s) even attempted to make this story serious. STS was the best when strictly about MC being horny and trying to get into every girls pants and on the way getting into funny or dumb or (in the case of eve) romantic situations. nothing more, nothing less.

btw i hate how MC is written nowadays. like he's objectively a pretty scummy person, with multiple girlfriends who he all impregnates simultanously and (literally) also having sex with everyone and their moms. why are the writers always trying to make him this morally infallible character even though his actions are pretty evil. it's like MurkyTurtle said, he frees a couple women from human trafficking then fucks them the same day. now i don't have problems with that per se and i'm not offended at all, i just hate how the writers still trying to make him a morally pure. he always randomly stumbles into these sex scenes instead of being moitvated by his own horniness which would make much more sense. it's really hard to explain but it really takes me out of the game.

 

[kameohawk]

Again, I think these pre-tech updates are a mistake, it's all just additional animations with existing characters. I think the tech update will be out before the end of the year, I could very well be wrong on that. People can argue whether the tech update was necessary or not, but I do think it will make the game better.

tech updates are needed. Especially if you've been ignoring refactoring of your code. the problem here is it's taken the dev all this time to the point it is obviously to all but the most deluded that he's half arsing the work.

In software development terms you try to keep your code clean as you work but eventually you'll accumulate up enough tech debt that you might want to stop for a sprint or two and hammer the backlog to clear out the wee problems before they become big problems and ultimately make future development easier.

Downing tools for a 2 week sprint to clean up house is one thing. To stop forward momentum of the project melts my mind. But then if you're getting money for it regardless then why not?

 

[Marphey]

yeah i played the whole main story from the beginning. i guess i just didn't like the game gettind darker or making an attempt at a more serious story at all. tonally it made no sense to me that you go from talking to keanu reeves to having sex with a cow and suddenly the game becomes a semi serious thriller. it didn't work for me at all and i wish the game would have stayed tonally consitent throughout. so yeah i totally expected MC father to still be alive and as for him being okay with fucking MC his daughter and wife. i mean much much weirder shit happened in this game. like MC impregnating half the towns female population with no repurcussion or MC having sex with a fish or cow girl.

or maybe everyone would just agree to keep this shit a secret from your father, i don't know i'm sure a halfway decent writer could have made it work

Well some here posted once that DC are adamant about balant cheating and that's why you will either have Tony scenario where he is totally ok about you fucking and impregnating his wife or like Helen situation where you have to break their relationship first.

 

[Omnikuken]

it kinda blows my mind that the writer(s) even attempted to make this story serious. STS was the best when strictly about MC being horny and trying to get into every girls pants and on the way getting into funny or dumb or (in the case of eve) romantic situations. nothing more, nothing less.

btw i hate how MC is written nowadays. like he's objectively a pretty scummy person, with multiple girlfriends who he all impregnates simultanously and (literally) also having sex with everyone and their moms. why are the writers always trying to make him this morally infallible character even though his actions are pretty evil. it's like MurkyTurtle said, he frees a couple women from human trafficking then fucks them the same day. now i don't have problems with that per se and i'm not offended at all, i just hate how the writers still trying to make him a morally pure. he always randomly stumbles into these sex scenes instead of being moitvated by his own horniness which would make much more sense. it's really hard to explain but it really takes me out of the game.

You technically have to wait at least 1 week between buttstuffing Nadya for the 1st time and then being able to get the new batch 5 scenes (as said in the changelog) .....

 

[Bestinian]

Is Mia's route still useless? I haven't played in years and was hoping to have a better scene of her losing her virginity and have her story be more about her than her mom.

 

[itsyeboii]

I don't expect this game to have top tier writing or be deep or anything. But I have to agree with RootingForRoz , the game always had goofy writing and not always the good kind of goofy at that. So when the game tries to take itself serious, whether it is MC trying to be alpha or romantic, or the game itself, it just feels so off and is sometimes cringe inducing.

I'd like to see more focus on the lewd and H-scenes, just give us more content and the padding won't be as bad. But personally, this content/dialogue dynamic we have now is not it. If the biggest chunk is going to be dialogue then make it enjoyable, otherwise put in some more lewd stuff. That's just my opinion tho.