VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[Raziel_8]

And again, why did they bother to implement a faithful path in Melody that locked you out of all the other content? Because it got you the perfect and most fleshed out end. We don't know yet, but maybe here it could be something like faithful end -> hotel will be a success and you live happily ever after or sleep around -> hotel will be ***** but your half sister is heartbroken that you sleep around, sells the hotel and throws you out. Who knows?

It's a while since i played Melody, but as far i rember there is no faithful path which locks u out of all other content, u simply have choices if u want start relationships/sex with others or not and if u turn down all others u get rewarded with the ''best'' ending.
U will only be locked out of side characters which have a ending.
So basicialy the same as the open relationship path, turn down all others, be loyal, get rewarded. Which is the reason i wondered why they implemented the faithful path, if u can do the same in the open relationship and it would feel even more rewarding there. But it doesn't really matter with the breakup for the open relationship coming soon.

As for the ''best/superstar'' ending in Melody, i didn't found it rewarding at all, nor the best one.
The threesome/foursome and knocking up Melody was far more rewarding + the better ending in my books.

 

[kameohawk]

As for the ''best/superstar'' ending in Melody, i didn't found it rewarding at all, nor the best one.
The threesome/foursome and knocking up Melody was far more rewarding + the better ending in my books.

wait, wait, wait, you can knock up Melody? How the hell did I miss that, what path is that on?

 

[Irgendwie Irgendwo]

It's a while since i played Melody, but as far i rember there is no faithful path which locks u out of all other content, u simply have choices if u want start relationships/sex with others or not and if u turn down all others u get rewarded with the ''best'' ending.
U will only be locked out of side characters which have a ending.
So basicialy the same as the open relationship path, turn down all others, be loyal, get rewarded. Which is the reason i wondered why they implemented the faithful path, if u can do the same in the open relationship and it would feel even more rewarding there. But it doesn't really matter with the breakup for the open relationship coming soon.

As for the ''best/superstar'' ending in Melody, i didn't found it rewarding at all, nor the best one.
The threesome/foursome and knocking up Melody was far more rewarding + the better ending in my books.

Subjective appraisal of quality of the endings notwithstanding (it's called Perfect Ending though), what do you call only being able to sleep with one person to get to a certain ending other than "locking out all the others"?

wait, wait, wait, you can knock up Melody? How the hell did I miss that, what path is that on?

You have to stay with her until the end and creampie her during one of the three sex scenes in the final week.

 

[Trikus]

It's a while since i played Melody, but as far i rember there is no faithful path which locks u out of all other content, u simply have choices if u want start relationships/sex with others or not and if u turn down all others u get rewarded with the ''best'' ending.
U will only be locked out of side characters which have a ending.
So basicialy the same as the open relationship path, turn down all others, be loyal, get rewarded. Which is the reason i wondered why they implemented the faithful path, if u can do the same in the open relationship and it would feel even more rewarding there. But it doesn't really matter with the breakup for the open relationship coming soon.

As for the ''best/superstar'' ending in Melody, i didn't found it rewarding at all, nor the best one.
The threesome/foursome and knocking up Melody was far more rewarding + the better ending in my books.

Exactly what content, besides sex, do you expect a faithful route to be locked in SL? We already saw him going out for a friendly date with Vicky if you choose the faithful route. Isn't that pretty much the exact same thing we saw in Melody? Two friends going out for dinner doesn't go against a faithful route. If you choose the faithful route in Melody you don't get any of the sex with the other girls. That content is locked isn't it?

 

[DA22]

Well, given the track record of MrDots games, why are you even playing this? I mean, it is up to you but surely if the content you don't want to see is tagged as a genre and is in his other games, and it is extremely hinted at that you will see, why even download it? If you don't like lesbian content, those twins are going to disappoint you greatly and it is hinted at fairly early on that S has been in their bed too.

I did not say I could not stomach lesbian content, just it does not excite me, you know that is why that skip quickly through scenes button is handy for just as for any other content that I do not like especially. Still that does not mean that more than 50-60% of the content is content I skip through fast it is still an enjoyable game for me.

Now my last try to make you see the light. What kinda game are you playing here?

One about the adventures of a male MC that was more or less kicked out by his current slightly controlling GF (I know I am unkind to Nicole but wait what I say about MC in other part ), that gets a call from his Sis and gets a chance to reconnect with her and meet a load of interesting hot women he can play with. Where Nicole is just one of the ladies and likely not even the main dame in importance that will be most worked out and in depth developed. (That will likely be Sis). Now if you are playing that game it is kinda logical that a bit more of the sympathy is for MC, he has been giving the flashbacks and he and his sex life is the focal point of the story. Even needing him to get rid of Nicole in a way to freely enjoy all the delicacies the team have ready for him.

Or are you playing a female protagonist game about the adventures of Nicole in the big rainy city that finally got rid of her clingy yet inattentive looser BF who is holding her back that was even unable to get a hint or 5 before finally leaving her alone and free, who after breakup meets a number of interesting guys and girls that she has sex with and most likely in the pursuit of her career will meet that loser boyfriend again and either stomps him deep into the ground or if the loser finally dealt with his demons and became decent BF material reconnects with him after betraying his sister or a kinder hearted version of Nicole helps out the Sis at great cost to her career but possibly is happier as a human being.

Now the second game might have been very interesting as well and very logical to have loads of sex shown with Nicole and none of MC while he is away from the story, but it is not the one devs chose to make. Nicole is just one of the many ladies, not the focal point of the story.

Now considering the stay loyal or breakup choice I actually agree with the team they are the two that make most sense in the end. For those who want to be faithful to Nicole it gives them that option, though that will mean no sex for those people till Nicole turns up in Sunshine Paradise. With the breakup path the devs can do everything with Nicole and MC that they would also have been able to do in an open relation path, just it feels less bad to a lot of people since both Nicole and MC are fully free now to do as they want and get in opposing relationships without future entanglements as for example MC's ex-Boss and it also enables a Nicole as enemy path if team wishes to that would have been way harder if they would be in an open relation and MC decides to support Sis and Nicole decides to do her job, since price of not doing so is just to high for her. (Now I know not a very romantic thought, but with all she already sacrificed for her career a serious consideration in reality if you play more from her pov).

 

[Rythan25]

For your information, that cuckean route was already turned down by the team before this update even launched. That argument was just used by some to punish people and show them the error of their none sharing ways, since MC is a proven cheater already in this game after all right? and to be able to bash them over that since they do want to see Nicole sex with third parties in a male MC focused game. Now it is a fair enough request if you do love that kind of content and neither side has the moral high ground, but personally I also prefer not to see that in a male MC game.

The thing is that scenario was actually fucking INTERESTING... if it had NOT been shot down by the rest of the team, all they had to do instead of trying to "swerve" their fanbase to as the trolling guy said "normalize, and make people more accepting of the almighty cuck"... was to put in the WT the clause "Choosing this option will lead to Nicole being a cuckqueen, instead of wanting sex with unworthy males, she will get off on hearing/seeing the MC with females"... BOOM, there would be no one (except people into NTR/cuck) that wouldnt have taken that route over the "loyal"one. Its spoiler free, and lets you know what to expect, instead of trying to make us get over the "boogey-man" of a crappy fetish.

Look at Babysitters from T4boo, the super hot wife in that game can be set to NTR the MC, become a swinger with husband, or be made a cuckqueen... I made her a cuckqueen, as she didnt get defiled by some asshole, while MC fucked said asshole's wife, and his own wife immediately after... life was good !!

 

[DA22]

The thing is that scenario was actually fucking INTERESTING... if it had NOT been shot down by the rest of the team, all they had to do instead of trying to "swerve" their fanbase to as the trolling guy said "normalize, and make people more accepting of the almighty cuck"... was to put in the WT the clause "Choosing this option will lead to Nicole being a cuckqueen, instead of wanting sex with unworthy males, she will get off on hearing/seeing the MC with females"... BOOM, there would be no one (except people into NTR/cuck) that wouldnt have taken that route over the "loyal"one. Its spoiler free, and lets you know what to expect, instead of trying to make us get over the "boogey-man" of a crappy fetish.

Look at Babysitters from T4boo, the super hot wife in that game can be set to NTR the MC, become a swinger with husband, or be made a cuckqueen... I made her a cuckqueen, as she didnt get defiled by some asshole, while MC fucked said asshole's wife, and his own wife immediately after... life was good !!

Well you are aware that they can do exactly the same with the break up route as long as they do not let MC be a total ass while breaking up? More like considering things that happened lately and that last talk about open relations and you moving on when find someone better I feel it will be better to give you your freedom back and then Nicole realizing she misses him while having some fun with other men and/or women and all the rest can play out the same as they meet again over that expected coming courtcase. Not even need to show anything or tell, you can just show what she did in that intervening period when they meet again and saves the team having to do extra paths about Nicole in meantime, so they can pump out content between MC and all the other women as well.

Having an amicable breakup and let Nicole move a bit to the background frees their hands and allows them to go any way they want to go concerning Nicole when she reenters the story. If show a lot of her and her activities though they will bind their hands.

 

[Trikus]

I did not say I could not stomach lesbian content, just it does not excite me, you know that is why that skip quickly through scenes button is handy for just as for any other content that I do not like especially. Still that does not mean that more than 50-60% of the content is content I skip through fast it is still an enjoyable game for me.

Now my last try to make you see the light. What kinda game are you playing here?

One about the adventures of a male MC that was more or less kicked out by his current slightly controlling GF (I know I am unkind to Nicole but wait what I say about MC in other part ), that gets a call from his Sis and gets a chance to reconnect with her and meet a load of interesting hot women he can play with. Where Nicole is just one of the ladies and likely not even the main dame in importance that will be most worked out and in depth developed. (That will likely be Sis). Now if you are playing that game it is kinda logical that a bit more of the sympathy is for MC, he has been giving the flashbacks and he and his sex life is the focal point of the story. Even needing him to get rid of Nicole in a way to freely enjoy all the delicacies the team have ready for him.

Or are you playing a female protagonist game about the adventures of Nicole in the big rainy city that finally got rid of her clingy yet inattentive looser BF that was even unable to get a hint or 5 before finally leaving her alone and free, who after breakup meets a number of interesting guys and girls that she has sex with and most likely in the pursuit of her career will meet that loser boyfriend again and either stomps him deep into the ground or if the loser finally dealt with his demons and became decent BF material reconnects with him after betraying his sister or a kinder hearted version of Nicole helps out the Sis at great cost to her career but possibly is happier as a human being.

Now the second game might have been very interesting as well and very logical to have loads of sex shown with Nicole and none of MC while he is away from the story, but it is not the one devs chose to make. Nicole is just one of the many ladies, not the focal point of the story.

Now considering the stay loyal or breakup choice I actually agree with the team they are the two that make most sense in the end. For those who want to be faithful to Nicole it gives them that option, though that will mean no sex for those people till Nicole turns up in Sunshine Paradise. With the breakup path the devs can do everything with Nicole and MC that they would also have been able to do in an open relation path, just it feels less bad to a lot of people since both Nicole and MC are fully free now to do as they want and get in opposing relationships without future entanglements as for example MC's ex-Boss and it also enables a Nicole as enemy path if team wishes to that would have been way harder if they would be in an open relation and MC decides to support Sis and Nicole decides to do her job, since price of not doing so is just to high for her. (Now I know not a very romantic thought, but with all she already sacrificed for her career a serious consideration in reality).

So, you like to make up shit to justify your choices or "prove" a point? Its your life I suppose. Neither of your definitions apply to the game or the characters as presented.

I agree that it is a male protagonist story and those usually lead to him having sex with everyone, they don't have to, just most do. It is after all defined as a visual novel, not a porn game. I also agree that Nicole was a complication to that. But, I look deeper than surface level and see who the characters are defined as. I agree with you (and have never disagreed) that breaking up with Nicole does help free up the story, and I fully support that being an option as it will be in v4, I just wish they kept the open path as well as it also has potential. All I have said in the past is that breaking up in v3, during the video call, would have been an out of character choice for the MC. Since this game is (so far) heavily focused on the narrative, rather than the sexual content, characters should make believable choices to who they are established as. I fully supported three routes (loyal, open, single) if that is what the developers presented as long as all three made sense to the characters they created. Having the open relationship path doesn't mean the things you described couldn't happen. We are still pretty much in the introduction phase of the story. We don't know what is intended for these characters or what certain decisions could lead to.

 

[Trikus]

and that last talk about open relations and you moving on when find someone better

Why do you always leave off the end part of that thought? She does say that IF either find someone they think are a better fit they should break up. However, she goes on to say that she is very doubtful she fill find someone a better fit for her. She still believes at the end of the summer that she will still want to be with him, and he will still want to be with her. Maybe you missed that part in the dialogue or something.

 

[DA22]

Why do you always leave off the end part of that thought? She does say that IF either find someone they think are a better fit they should break up. However, she goes on to say that she is very doubtful she fill find someone a better fit for her. She still believes at the end of the summer that she will still want to be with him, and he will still want to be with her. Maybe you missed that part in the dialogue or something.

You never heard of being nice and softening the hard message within, it sounds like that is exactly is what she is doing there, giving clingy MC hope that is not really there. It is not that she hates MC after all or at least not yet, she is just not really happy about how their life turned out and if that relation is really worth it as is. She might though if devs decide to let him break up with her like a complete asshole.

 

[DA22]

So, you like to make up shit to justify your choices or "prove" a point? Its your life I suppose. Neither of your definitions apply to the game or the characters as presented.

I agree that it is a male protagonist story and those usually lead to him having sex with everyone, they don't have to, just most do. It is after all defined as a visual novel, not a porn game. I also agree that Nicole was a complication to that. But, I look deeper than surface level and see who the characters are defined as. I agree with you (and have never disagreed) that breaking up with Nicole does help free up the story, and I fully support that being an option as it will be in v4, I just wish they kept the open path as well as it also has potential. All I have said in the past is that breaking up in v3, during the video call, would have been an out of character choice for the MC. Since this game is (so far) heavily focused on the narrative, rather than the sexual content, characters should make believable choices to who they are established as. I fully supported three routes (loyal, open, single) if that is what the developers presented as long as all three made sense to the characters they created. Having the open relationship path doesn't mean the things you described couldn't happen. We are still pretty much in the introduction phase of the story. We don't know what is intended for these characters or what certain decisions could lead to.

Like I said I get that devs do not wanted that third path, just to much work for one of the many LI's MC will have in game. Thing is that the break up gives dev just a bit more room to maneuver with both Nicole and MC if they want to or do all the things they would have done in open relation, so it makes sense that for them it is the preferred option and also gives them less need to keep getting back to Nicole till it is time for her to reenter the story directly. Another problem with open relation as opposed to a break up is the relation with all the other girls. Now it makes some difference if he seduces the cousin as a free man able to enter into an exclusive relation with her or with her knowing he is in an open relationship.

 

[Jackboo1]

First time playing this... I'm happy there's a lot of content and I really like the slow pacing, but fu..ck, I hate when something happens to x character, and then he gotta say everything what happenned all over again to x character- something that the player already knows. Imo, that makes the reading so f boring. I wish there's a choice to skip that stuff.

Other than that, I'm F loving this. Mr Dots Games strikes again, even tho I didn't like Melody that much.

 

[NukaCola]

First time playing this... I'm happy there's a lot of content and I really like the slow pacing, but fu..ck, I hate when something happens to x character, and then he gotta say everything what happenned all over again to x character- something that the player already knows. Imo, that makes the reading so f boring. I wish there's a choice to skip that stuff.

Other than that, I'm F loving this. Mr Dots Games strikes again, even tho I didn't like Melody that much.

I agree. But you can just hold Ctrl to skip text.

 

[Incest games fan]

imagine being an Arsenal fan lmao xD

But i suddenly being sad knowing i'm a Barça fan

 

[EZ8lt]

View attachment 798388 imagine being an Arsenal fan lmao xD

But i suddenly being sad knowing i'm a Barça fan

Still better than being a fucking Gunner.

 

[Trikus]

You never heard of being nice and softening the hard message within, it sounds like that is exactly is what she is doing there, giving clingy MC hope that is not really there. It is not that she hates MC after all or at least not yet, she is just not really happy about how their life turned out and if that relation is really worth it as is. She might though if devs decide to let him break up with her like a complete asshole.

See, you are a glass half empty person and I'm a glass half full person. Both could be correct. Except we know her internal monologue. What she has been saying to herself doesn't really match your interpretation. In her internal dialogue she indicates she still wants to be with him even though things have been difficult.

Where is this "clingy MC" thing coming from btw? You have used it more than once but she has never indicated she feels like that about him. Also, he has missed video calls with her. A clingy guy would always be on the phone with her, telling her he misses her etc. If anything the MC has kind of ghosted her a bit. He never even introduced her to his sister until she called him. Not understanding the clingy angle you keep talking about.

Like I said I get that devs do not wanted that third path, just to much work for one of the many LI's MC will have in game. Thing is that the break up gives dev just a bit more room to maneuver with both Nicole and MC if they want to or do all the things they would have done in open relation, so it makes sense that for them it is the preferred option and also gives them less need to keep getting back to Nicole till it is time for her to reenter the story directly. Another problem with open relation as opposed to a break up is the relation with all the other girls. Now it makes some difference if he seduces the cousin as a free man able to enter into an exclusive relation with her or with her knowing he is in an open relationship.

Are you forgetting that they were not going to do the break up path originally? At least not in v4. If they were, it has been brought forward. Clearly the break up path was not the dev's preferred path, or it would have been in v3. And again, you are making choices just for the game to become nothing but sex scenes, to hell with the narrative that they have been working on.

 

[DA22]

See, you are a glass half empty person and I'm a glass half full person. Both could be correct. Except we know her internal monologue. What she has been saying to herself doesn't really match your interpretation. In her internal dialogue she indicates she still wants to be with him even though things have been difficult.

Where is this "clingy MC" thing coming from btw? You have used it more than once but she has never indicated she feels like that about him. Also, he has missed video calls with her. A clingy guy would always be on the phone with her, telling her he misses her etc. If anything the MC has kind of ghosted her a bit. He never even introduced her to his sister until she called him. Not understanding the clingy angle you keep talking about.



Are you forgetting that they were not going to do the break up path originally? At least not in v4. If they were, it has been brought forward. Clearly the break up path was not the dev's preferred path, or it would have been in v3. And again, you are making choices just for the game to become nothing but sex scenes, to hell with the narrative that they have been working on.

Well you may have noticed that MC has had a problem with people leaving him and has more or less molded his life to fit what Nicole wanted or tried to. That looks like at least a fear of being left complex and his behavior fits with that and is kinda clingy. Actually the not calling could easily be him noticing that things were going south between them and being afraid to call her subconsiously so he will not get more bad news from her. No idea if that is where devs want to go with it but it fits.

Well the only thing I know is that the open relation thing was a proposal of Jeff that was already shot down before this update was released. So it was always the break up option that would come, they might agree more with you they thought an immediate breakup at call was bit cold. The story was never about staying with Nicole though I suspect but always about breaking up with Nicole, remember devs are making a sex game from the very start around the MC with as main dame in game the Sis and another 6-10 LI's around that are all as important and need as much time as Nicole and possibly a loyal path, while MC is far away from Nicole. The story and game was never about Nicole as such. She was just used as an early blocker of affairs, a role Brody has as well and rest of her importance as a LI is the same of all other various LI's opportunities MC will have with likely exception of Sis.

 

[Smilingjack4]

I have never experienced something that had so much effort and time put into it be this frustrating to engage with.
As an open letter to the writer I offer the following feedback:

Severe pacing issues - There are so many scenes that are useless from a storytelling standpoint, from the extensively made backstory of the character which should have been dealt with in a paragraph instead of 3 chapters worth of reading, to showing of scenes the MC isn't there for. Or scenes dedicated to internal monologue the summarize the scene you just finished.
There are way too many plot threads running at the same time.
Less is more.
I see so many hours wasted on unnecessary scenes and chapters worth of writing, it frustrates me that no one advised the writer to take a break. It is so much good writing that must have taken actual work to produce being flushed down the drain because the game tells you EVERYTHING.


Now for anyone who hasn't played yet: While the issue of pacing is major, it is the ONLY objective issue I can honestly raise, which is damn high praise. The characters are all completely fleshed out, so much so that they all managed to evoke genuine emotion from me. Mostly contempt. I hate them almost as much as real people, though mostly because the MC also is his own character. You cannot truly influence his character, the player input is in choosing the correct way for the MC to express himself.

The Cgs and renders are gorgeous, and the text visibility issue mentioned in the patch notes is mitigated by having the option to choose from 3 fonts, I believe if we had an option to change the color of the text it would be solved entirely. Or if a different coloured outline could be added for the letters.

TL.DR.: Put your patient hat on, and don't try to go through all of it in one sitting. 8.5/10

 

[cxx]

whole trio of sisters is nothing but T-R-O-U-B-L-E-S. mc is deep in shit with them esp. not so innocent kristina.

so was cumming inside vicky removed after walkthrough was made since I didn't get that option (she wanted to swallow).

Jeff Steel I found bug (unless it's intentional): only Trisha route works atm, step mom route won't load (aka which lady chose on underwear contest).

 

[cxx]

The MC is a jerk for missing the nightly calls (can't remember how many) especially after repeatedly bothering her at work. She probably should be having doubts about the relationship given what she knows. He didn't even bother to call her the first night!

1 or 2 missed calls.