VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[oceanbobo4]

so far I feel that the majority of you all did enjoy the Shortcake scenes (at least I have not seen any major complaints about it…...yet).

The Shortcake scenes were my favorite this update. Great job! The scenes focused on many individual moments, and you used different angles at the right times. Also, you seem to have a feel for Shortcake's personality.

 

[Trikus]

Connie sex scene is a good example:
She didn't say anything and the first thing he thinks is how many cocks were inside her... WTF my bro... Why other cocks is the first thing you think when you enter someone!?

She says he feels so big inside her. It gave him an ego boost and he made a joke about other guys not being quite as gifted.

Then, of course, comes the fake surprise:
"oh no, the girl that spend her teenage years at an ALL GIRLS school was a virgin, who would have thought!"...
Then proceed to be asshole-y dismissive of her love confession because he can only be unscrupulous when it's time to hide an LI from an LI...

Unless she was chained to her bed when not in class, just going to an all girls school doesn't mean she can't lose her virginity. I mean, was she locked up on weekends when there was no class? She never got a chance to go hang out at a mall on weekends? She even says she got nervous when talking to boys in the past so she clearly has been around boys and could have lost her virginity before this. I highly doubt all the girls in that ALL GIRLS school were virgins. As for dismissing her, she wants him to abandon his entire life and career to follow a teenager throughout college. She basically wanted him to give up everything just for her. He has his own life to live and he has made it clear things are only happening while he is at the hotel. He let her down easy, he wasn't an unscrupulous asshole.

Ah fuck me for still putting up with this game!

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Or you could simply stop playing it if you don't like it and spare us the constant whining, just a suggestion.

 

[Absolute_Icon]

Connie looks like she’s 12 and the surfer girl 14, I feel like a goddam pedo smashing with them & that whip cream bikini she wore, that should have dripped right off her chest cause she’s a carpenters dream
(Flat as a board and never been nailed)

Not sure I agree with the flat part, I like small tiddies myself and imho Connie's body could pass for an adult, but it's the childlike faces that are just offputting to me sometimes (the Asian girl legit looks like a 10 y/o imo). It's not as bad as some other games though, and luckily there is a variety of proper women here as well (love the black girl, the twins and the ex gf, great work)

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[CoomerCarlos35xxxv]

Yo I'm starting new in season 2 but idk how much point should I put in every girls relationship, anyone know?

 

[TheReDeeMeR]

I'm so sad that Shortcake didn't open the envelope

 

[cxx]

Or you could simply stop playing it if you don't like it and spare us the constant whining, just a suggestion.

and where's the fun in that?

I'm so sad that Shortcake didn't open the envelope

true since it'd have made things more complicated (i did peek inside and rolled back).

 

[more lesbian foot massage]

Hey all, I wanted to drop in and officially say hello since I really have not done that yet. If you don't know, I am a new member of the

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team and very little is known about me, so I did want to provide a little info about that and my thoughts about some of the complaints. (well, at least one of the complaints )

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Hopefully, as time goes on, you all will see an improvement as I do more scenes and that allows MrDots more time to focus on everything else. (If things go that way of course) I really hope we are able produce better quality content for all of you. Thanks!

I'm not sure if you know how much optimism for the improvement of the games you just gave me or helped me regain the optimism about it to be more exact. Your words mean a lot to me as a loyal supporter of the game on patreon. And talking to the community like this is helping to keep the community engaged in the process and maybe cool everyone down a bit. Thank you for this. I mean it.

 

[JohnF95zone]

She says he feels so big inside her. It gave him an ego boost and he made a joke about other guys not being quite as gifted.


Unless she was chained to her bed when not in class, just going to an all girls school doesn't mean she can't lose her virginity. I mean, was she locked up on weekends when there was no class? She never got a chance to go hang out at a mall on weekends? She even says she got nervous when talking to boys in the past so she clearly has been around boys and could have lost her virginity before this. I highly doubt all the girls in that ALL GIRLS school were virgins. As for dismissing her, she wants him to abandon his entire life and career to follow a teenager throughout college. She basically wanted him to give up everything just for her. He has his own life to live and he has made it clear things are only happening while he is at the hotel. He let her down easy, he wasn't an unscrupulous asshole.


Or you could simply stop playing it if you don't like it and spare us the constant whining, just a suggestion.

Yeah, cut the guy some slacks (a lot if you will). He just pointing out some stuffs that he found odds (according to his observations). He was not that deep into the story and the characters, only on the surface level. He already had some biases and predelictions on life and the world generally, that enforces his observations earlier.

I don't think he meant it aggressively negative but I could be wrong here since I don't know what people's intentions are. It appears to me that he likes the overall or most part of the game, just have some weakness (according to his standard) here and there, and sharing his unfiltered opinions on those weaknesses.

Thanks for explaining stuffs that perhaps now he is well informed (or not and that can leads to further discussions). Cheers.

 

[more lesbian foot massage]

Not sure I agree with the flat part, I like small tiddies myself and imho Connie's body could pass for an adult, but it's the childlike faces that are just offputting to me sometimes (the Asian girl legit looks like a 10 y/o imo). It's not as bad as some other games though, and luckily there is a variety of proper women here as well (love the black girl, the twins and the ex gf, great work)

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I agree with everything you said in regards of the faces and the bodies. I also think the bodies are fine. Women with petite bodies and/or small breasts exist. The huge melons and duckface of the sister is a turn off to me. But everyone has a different taste.

The "problem" are the too young (for my liking) looking faces of Yuki and Connie, especially Yuki. Shortcake's face looks pretty young too, but not to the same extent, IMO. I wouldn't mind just her face to be a bit older looking, but it's fine how it is. Shortcake is just a freckled treasure that I can't be too nitpicky about it.

Connie looks like she’s 12 and the surfer girl 14, I feel like a goddam pedo smashing with them.

Both look younger than the average 18yo woman, I tend to agree. But first it's fiction, second tons of petite women exists and tons of "baby"-faced ones as well and sometimes both come together and form a cute petite woman. Albeit I agree Connie is exaggerated and Yuki even more so. Shortcake is on the edge for me, but her sporty persona, her freckles and her persona is just nice. Shortcake seems less naive than the melon-carrying thicc sister who behaves like a 9year old and THAT was creepy to me. Shortcake is just a huge introvert but she doesn't seem as naive but rather careful or anxious. That's a difference. Albeit sometimes (mostly chapter 1 I think, less so in chapter 2) the writing portrays it more like naivity which is a shame.

edit: And about the Pedo term. Technically if you are attracted to pubescent teenagers in the early stage of puberty (roughly 11-14 years in age) you're a hebephile. If you're attracted to 15-20 year olds that's called an ephebophile and everything beyond that is called a teleiophile. The majority of men are a mix of primary teleiophile and ephebophile but also to some extent can be aroused by girls in the hebephile spectrum, for biological reasons. A pedophile on the other hand is disgusted by anything that resembles maturity in the slightest way or even the smallest hint of puberty turns them off. A pedophile is attracted to pre-pubescent girls including little children and this is a disorder and not a normal biological expected reaction. Aside of that the terms also normally mean being primarily attracted by that. So most people aren't hebephiles, they are mostly a mix of ephebophiles and teleophiles and tending more or less to the one or the other but are or can be aroused by both girls/women in those spectrums.

Secondly Connie looks more like at least 15 or older in terms of her body (ignoring the face) according to the tanner scale and the same applies to Shortcake.

Get your facts right before using the term pedo as thought-terminating chliche or pseudo-argument.

 

[enfuego]

I stopped playing the game a while back because I thought his dialogue was insufferably overwritten and tedious to get through but it's extremely obvious to me that Dots puts "lolis" in his games and then bends over backwards to establish them as college aged because he's terrified of Patreon stopping his cash flow. Did it to DmD before this.

 

[Son of Durin]

I sound like a broken record right now, but I'll say again:

TL;DR: The girls/renders are good but this MC is insufferable

What a fucking spineless bitch!
Overly agreeable and unquestionably does what somebody tells him to do...
He never even question somebody motives and Every obvious information comes as a surprise for him.

Connie sex scene is a good example:
She didn't say anything and the first thing he thinks is how many cocks were inside her... WTF my bro... Why other cocks is the first thing you think when you enter someone!?
Then, of course, comes the fake surprise:
"oh no, the girl that spend her teenage years at an ALL GIRLS school was a virgin, who would have thought!"...
Then proceed to be asshole-y dismissive of her love confession because he can only be unscrupulous when it's time to hide an LI from an LI...

Ah fuck me for still putting up with this game!

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I'm sure many people have the same opinion of you.

 

[Son of Durin]

I stopped playing the game a while back because I thought his dialogue was insufferably overwritten and tedious to get through but it's extremely obvious to me that Dots puts "lolis" in his games and then bends over backwards to establish them as college aged because he's terrified of Patreon stopping his cash flow. Did it to DmD before this.

Then why are you still here ranting?

 

[more lesbian foot massage]

That's a really beautiful view. The panorama is nice, too.

 

[Kryptozoid]

Hey all, I wanted to drop in and officially say hello since I really have not done that yet. If you don't know, I am a new member of the

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team and very little is known about me, so I did want to provide a little info about that and my thoughts about some of the complaints. (well, at least one of the complaints )

All the complaints about the expressions I totally get and somewhat agree. But at the same time, I cannot completely fault MrDots for it because of the limited time he has to make the renders and build out the script/game. It can be very time consuming to focus on all the little details like that when you know there is a deadline. Having to make a 1000+ renders as well as many animations in such a short amount of time along with everything else that needs to be done is very difficult. (And that doesn’t count anything that needs to be done over again)

I am sure if he did not have that restriction of time, he would put way more focus into the little details like expressions. When it comes time to start making another game, I believe they will want to get away from the “set release date” which will give him a little more wiggle room and he can pay closer attention to things like that, but at the same time still try and get it done in a reasonable amount of time.

I know when I was making all of the Shortcake date scenes, I really tried my best to use different expressions here and there. But also I wanted to make sure I used the same expressions that MrDots uses as to keep the scenes feeling like they belonged in the game and not just thrown in there by some random person lol. I was trying to pay attention to all the little details too as I made the scenes. (I have a bit of an OCD problem when it comes to that )

Of course, nobody knows this, but from the time I started making the renders (about 3 months ago) until literally the last night before it had to be released, the game wound up with about 270ish renders (including the doughnut images), but I made closer to maybe 800 renders because I had to continually redo them for various issues, imperfections and tweaks that I personally just could not tolerate. (Basically, because I am still learning and new to rendering.) Making matters harder, I really had no specific script to follow since it wasn't written yet, so I pretty much had to guess how things would flow, and what would be needed. I also had to deal with real life (having surgery) and my day job of course. I worked very hard on this, and the last week was full of very sleepless nights.

It is my hope that with me helping more and more down the road, these complaints become rarer, and MrDots can put more focus into quality, not quantity. I think having someone else help him make scenes will really take a lot of pressure off him. I am not saying for sure that I will being doing this on a permanent/regular basis yet since this was sort of a trial run to see how the fans would like my story and the renders, but so far I feel that the majority of you all did enjoy the Shortcake scenes (at least I have not seen any major complaints about it…...yet).

I wish I could say that I did all of her scenes, but since I have a full time job and I don't have the best hardware, I was pretty limited with some of the things I was able to do, so the scenes in her bedroom sadly were not mine. I really wanted to have more animation for my scenes, but even just rendering a simple 3-4 second looping clip in 4k, takes me 12+ hours, and I cannot be without my computer that long while I am working my day job.

If this becomes a more common thing for me, I really want to get a new GPU (right now only working with a single RTX 3060 and an older GTX 1070), but living alone and not doing this as an actual job that provides an income makes that very hard. I am very happy to help MrDots where I can and I am not doing this for any compensation, nor would I ask it of him. I am doing this because I want to see great things from him and his games, and if I can help with that, I will. But I can only do so much given my limitations.

Hopefully, as time goes on, you all will see an improvement as I do more scenes and that allows MrDots more time to focus on everything else. (If things go that way of course) I really hope we are able produce better quality content for all of you. Thanks!

Don't tell me you didn't get ANY money for doing this ? From one of the most successfull porn VN dev ? I don't care if you're a beginner : sure, you deserve less than an experienced 3D artist, but you deserve SOMETHING, like at the bare minimum 300 to 500$. Even if you do it because you like it, you are getting fucked, and you are robbing other artists who don't work for free of their job, even if it's not your intention.

In every "fun" job, people are exploited because the CEOs providing these jobs know we would do it for free : just look at the VFX and the video game industry. Some of the money would be more than decent if you worked normal hours, but no : you spend your life in these places and it ends in a burnout, because it's not a rythm you can sustain beyond 30-35 year old.

So please next time demand to be paid : if they refuse to give you even a mere 250-300$, then you'll know they're cunts who just want to exploit you.

 

[jamdan]

The expressions and poses are defensible because as people (including myself) have noted it's done because of time constraints. They want to get a fairly decently sized update out every couple months. And for the most part they do. So people can deal with the manufacturing-line esque renders as they do, in the end, look perfectly good. Even if they are pretty basic.

But what isn't defensible, and the #1 complaint people have, is the writing. It's so unnatural and robotic. And it's been this way in all of their games. Too much inner monologue. Way too much pointless detail. Unnatural word selection. It's almost like reading an instruction manual at times. I do think the time constraints feed into this, but not much. Writing is more difficult than people think, but MrDots games break basic writing rules constantly.

 

[MrTM]

Nice update Shortcake and Connie

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[cxx]

That's a really beautiful view. The panorama is nice, too.

better view is when they go up.

 

[brush_brush]

Yo I'm starting new in season 2 but idk how much point should I put in every girls relationship, anyone know?

I put 200 points on each

 

[cxx]

I put 200 points on each

that so won't cause problems.

 

[JonasSnr]

some bug with the options..not sure if is the walkthrough mod or the game itself..when i clik to turen on the dialogue box, after a few moment playing , it turn off by itself...anyione noticed this too?

Me too, seems to be when anim is seen and other odd times, hope they fix this in next update most annoying