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Nicole✔
Vicky✔
Ashley✔
Trisha✔
Sister✔
Shortcake✔
Jazmin✔
Yuki✔
Ivy✔
Lily✔
Connie✔
Kristina in progress...
Svetlana in progress...
 
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She is not MCs wife and the game literally starts with hem having sex at home...
Not sure how anyone could miss that. She was also in town last time I played so there is bound to be more. I just don't have it in me right now to slog through this one again.
 
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I doubt it was much better before, at least he never wore the pants in his former relationship.
And let's be honest, calling the MC dense would be a compliment, he is worse than a 30y old virgin when it comes to women...like, oh were kissing, making out and going on a date...does the girl actually like me or does she see me only as a friend :rolleyes:

And for the love of god i can't understand why the MC is so fixated of going back in this ep. Relucant and unsure if he want to stay, understandable. But he doesn't even think about staying.
In this episode it felt like every few min he's going on about going home, if the girl is ok with it only short summer fling and he likes the girls...

I mean let's sum it up:
From what i remember the MC dislikes/hates the city and the constant shitty weather.
He has no job, no gf, very likely no home, his only family is his dad, to which he doesn't have a good relationship either and it doesn't seem like he has many or close friends.
On the other hand:
He would live in a place where people pay to make holidays.
He would have a good job/co-owner, the family he likes, friends and lovers there.
Truly a hard choice.

That talk with Roshi was a other thing i really wanted to smack the MC:
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Although, there was one line of the MC where i couldn't agree more with him.
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Please do! About 80-90% less of these ''meaningful'' monologues would be nice.
Exactly my thoughts. Jesus Christ... the never-ending inner monologues that seem to serve as exposition dumps. But most of the time it's not necessary because the player can put one and one together anyway, and more importantly because of the nature of the game being a visual novel it doesn't need to tell so much when it can just show.

But it's not just the inner monologues. The characters also often speak stiltedly, saying things like "that's correct" in situations where a simple, casual 'yeah' or 'yep' would suffice.
And the almost "formal" language they often use. Even when they are friends or siblings, both young adults or even in a romantic or sexual relationship. It just makes them sound unnatural to me, like if they were robots.

On top of that, the characters, including MC - sorry for being so direct - are so dense (like not in the charming way of dense) that they often don't understand what others feel and think and what their behaviour means, even when it is quite obvious. And I think MC has to visit an oculist because clearly he has some issues with his visual perception. I mean Connie is wearing a dress
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and the first thing that pops into the MC's mind is this:
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Unbelievable... The only thing missing is that the MC asks himself (in yet another totally necessay inner monologue) while having sex with Connie and both being completely naked *I think she is naked? It can't be? I wonder if she found a liking on me. Hmm. Have to think more about it. But not now, I think Connie is making funny noises. Could that be? An Orgasm? :eek:*

:rolleyes:

And this style of writing sadly continues throughout the whole game.

Sorry. I don't want to bash on the game. It's just that the writing feels so unnatural that it hurts. And without a sufficient amount of facepalming, I couldn't have seen a healthy way to give the necessary criticism. The writing desperately needs improvement. And I wholeheartedly ❤ wish the developers the best. If that is improved, the game will be perceived very differently.
 
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loser beta MC is one trope that way too many devs use.
Apart from the overdone (and cringey tbh) alpha/beta/sigma classification, I really agree with you. It's annoying and overdone. And this MC here is a special kind of dense that even most anime shonen MCs can only dream of. He's easily in the top 3 densest MCs of all visual novels on this site.

But unfortunately, the female characters aren't the brightest under the sun either. They just appear less dense in the shadow of MC's S-tier denseness.
 
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Not sure how anyone could miss that. She was also in town last time I played so there is bound to be more. I just don't have it in me right now to slog through this one again.
OK the game style clearly isn't for everyone, and everyone has their own tastes so that's OK.

But if your dislike raises to the point where you "just don't have it in me(you) right now to slog through this one again" what is the point of coming to the thread?

This thread has detractors but those who still do play and of course it has fans like any thread. But if you are at the point of not even bothering to play, why come here?

Is it to promote anyone who complains? Is it to argue with anyone who likes it? Is it a weird need to stay in the conversation in spite of not liking the mandated topic? What is it?


Just seems so very odd.
 

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OK the game style clearly isn't for everyone, and everyone has their own tastes so that's OK.

But if your dislike raises to the point where you "just don't have it in me(you) right now to slog through this one again" what is the point of coming to the thread?

This thread has detractors but those who still do play and of course it has fans like any thread. But if you are at the point of not even bothering to play, why come here?

Is it to promote anyone who complains? Is it to argue with anyone who likes it? Is it a weird need to stay in the conversation in spite of not liking the mandated topic? What is it?


Just seems so very odd.
I wasn't complaining to or trying to antagonize anyone. I visit the thread from time to time to see how the development is going. Just because I've had my fill of the devs writing "style" doesn't mean I'm done with it altogether. Also, last time I checked anyone could express their feelings about the project, fan or otherwise. It is a forum after all.
 

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Why do these Adult Visual NOVELS have so much writing in them? /s Also, did you know that some people really do have an inner monologue/inner narration at this level in real life. Given how much he day dreams in the story, this does actually line up. He is a classic over thinker, I am the same.
 
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I played through ch1 and 2 and saw no footjob. Which chapter is it in and how is it triggered? Is it easy to miss?
 

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I never said you couldn't express anything I simply asked "what's the point."

I said that for those who play but complain I see why, as they still play. But you said you don't so.....

I was curious if you had an accomplishment in mind. I have about 5 ish threads I stopped liking the VN/Game for whatever reason so I put them on ignore and never think about them anymore. Which is why I was curious what motivation brings a person back to a thread of "dislike" as I clearly am not that type of person.
Your assuming an awful lot from just one response to another user. Did I somehow offend you? I don't know what your after here.
 

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OK the game style clearly isn't for everyone, and everyone has their own tastes so that's OK.

But if your dislike raises to the point where you "just don't have it in me(you) right now to slog through this one again" what is the point of coming to the thread?

This thread has detractors but those who still do play and of course it has fans like any thread. But if you are at the point of not even bothering to play, why come here?

Is it to promote anyone who complains? Is it to argue with anyone who likes it? Is it a weird need to stay in the conversation in spite of not liking the mandated topic? What is it?


Just seems so very odd.
There seems to be a lot of echo chamber going on here with the complainers. Say your piece; walk away; don't harp on it incessantly. I suspect the thread can't block them, so "ignore" it is.
 
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Why do these Adult Visual NOVELS have so much writing in them? /s Also, did you know that some people really do have an inner monologue/inner narration at this level in real life. Given how much he day dreams in the story, this does actually line up. He is a classic over thinker, I am the same.
Are you familiar with the definition of the term "Novel"?

This isn't a 70s porno: say three words and screw.
 
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The POV is what I look for in games personally, it's much more realist in my opinion.
Likewise. I find it more immersive, too. Albeit every camera perspective has their pros and cons.

The SL's MC is indeed a whiny little twerp and if it wasn't for the cousin I probably wouldn't keep playing just on that fact alone.
[…] The dumbass really needs to keep his mouth shut, literally.
Relatable. The cousin is my favorite, too. I wouldn't phrase it that harsh like you, but I agree. The MC is indeed unbelievable dense and naïve. He genuinely seems to be a nice and honest guy. But what gives if he is just as naïve and dense.

[…] I'm actually working on a mod [for Melody] […]. The bulk of it removes 1000+ lines of MC inner monologue and make the people talk like actual human beings.
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The mod is for Melody. I really like the relationship you form with her and out of the three it feels the most "real" I think. But I don't like how everyone talks so properly at the start of week 5. It's the same with all the games though. "May I ask", "Shall we", "Would you like", "In a moment", that sort of thing among others. I know there is technically nothing wrong with it but it's not how many people actually speak to each other. It also trims down the conversations. I don't need to know that Melody is going to brush her teeth and get changed in the morning before we meet, it's a given and completely irrelevant information. […]
Agreed. But if it's used in a certain kind of way it can work. I know one example of a game out of my head that used this proper language (even a bit more proper or formal) in a competent way. House in the Rift. It's just one character in that game that speaks like this, the Succubus Azraesha. She has a varied expression in how she speaks, in her body language and a broader range of facial expressions. That combined with her sharp wit, her cheekiness and her caring nature gives her class and makes her interesting. And then she also has both a kinky and a romantic side. The writing is honestly top-notch. Best succubus ever in that regard. There is no competition.

I know it's not for everyone but I still plan to upload it when I'm done for other like minded people.
I am quite curious to see how your mod turns out. If I'm playing Sunshine love, I have started holding down the CTRL key when a round bracket appears at the start of a line. Much better that way.


That sounded kind of mean again, but I think the criticism is needed and legitimate. Nevertheless, or because of this, I wish the development team much success and hope that they continue to improve themselves.

I've been following Mr. Dots since DMD and the animations have improved noticeably from DMD to Melody and even more so from Melody to Sunshine Love. The render quality has improved a lot, especially compared to the first game. However, the facial expressions are really too limited and samey (especially noticeable with the twins). But still it is apparent that apart from the writing, every area of the game has improved more or less.

So please don't take my criticism as a bashing of the game, but rather as honest and direct feedback without beating around the bush.
 
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Likewise. I find it more immersive, too. Albeit every camera perspective has their pros and cons.


Relatable. The cousin is my favorite, too. I wouldn't phrase it that harsh like you, but I agree. The MC is indeed unbelievable dense and naïve. He genuinely seems to be a nice and honest guy. But what gives if he is just as naïve and dense.


Agreed. But if it's used in a certain kind of way it can work. I know one example of a game out of my head that used this proper language (even a bit more proper or formal) in a competent way. House in the Rift. It's just one character in that game that speaks like this, the Succubus Azraesha. She has a varied expression in how she speaks, in her body language and a broader range of facial expressions. That combined with her sharp wit, her cheekiness and her caring nature gives her class and makes her interesting. And then she also has both a kinky and a romantic side. The writing is honestly top-notch. Best succubus ever in that regard. There is no competition.


I am quite curious to see how your mod turns out. If I'm playing Sunshine love, I have started holding down the CTRL key when a round bracket appears at the start of a line. Much better that way.


That sounded kind of mean again, but I think the criticism is legitimate and legitimate. Nevertheless, or because of this, I wish the development team much success and hope that they continue to improve themselves.

I've been following Mr. Dots since DMD and the animations have improved noticeably from DMD to Melody and even more so from Melody to Sunshine Love. The render quality has improved a lot, especially compared to the first game. However, the facial expressions are really too limited and samey (especially noticeable with the twins). But still it is apparent that apart from the writing, every area of the game has improved more or less.

So please don't take my criticism as a bashing of the game, but rather as honest and direct feedback without beating around the bush.
I guess you missed my spoiler, huh? Rae may lake formally put it's not overly "Proper" or robotic like the dialogues in this one. They're also almost always important to the actual progression of the plot or the characters. The same can't be said for this one however.

I actually forgot about the mod with the move I've been going through. It's still half done...
 
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