VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[Hyperserver]

... (The same 4 expressions for all characters, exaggerated excitement every three sentences, etc), but for an adult game, getting the animation right or at least passable, seems like it's well worth changing sooner rather than later.

we know....
One reason for that is, that he used to keep those expressions as they fit for multiple scenes, so he saved work. That's a trade-off between frequest updates and top graphics. Nonetheless his "style" has to change if we want to keep close to other top developers.
We also know that standard raised a lot and our graphics are not at the end of the top - but it will improve greatly next game.
To refactor DMD or SL right now would not be recommended, as the benefit would not weight up for the work we would have to invest.

 

[jaw1986baby]

we know....
One reason for that is, that he used to keep those expressions as they fit for multiple scenes, so he saved work. That's a trade-off between frequest updates and top graphics. Nonetheless his "style" has to change if we want to keep close to other top developers.
We also know that standard raised a lot and our graphics are not at the end of the top - but it will improve greatly next game.
To refactor DMD or SL right now would not be recommended, as the benefit would not weight up for the work we would have to invest.

I mean I, for one, have said it in other threads:

Quality over speed, any day of the week and twice on Saturday (Dots preferred release day)

The character models like Shortcake are absolutely fucking great. But to make scenes and animations as fast as he does now the overall scene quality and particularly lighting is super basic. I don't mind because again the "eye candy" is the female character model and he has made very gorgeous women. I do think some have less quality (Connie is one example) in their skin maps and facial details but he has way more hits than misses. And that is from the response to the characters that aren't my thing but are in the wheelhouse of others on here (Any big tits and MILFs are nope for me).

So if going forward he makes more gorgeous women and puts them into higher quality scenes overall and ups the animations (which honestly I find to be good now personally) man he can take triple the time IN MY BOOK.

Just saying




PEACE

(EDIT)
Smarmint I will say, of all the MILFs in all the VNs/games I play, Ashley is my favorite (Especially flashback Ashley). I usually have multiple saves in any VN one where I try to bone everything in spite of them not being my type. Ashley's scenes were the least objectionable. If that means anything.

 

[Smarmint]

I second that. Shortcake is smokin, and unlike jaw1986baby, to me Ashley, church girl, and the Twins are super spicy also. But several characters just look strange. Yuki looks good from a distance, but she has this strange splotchiness to her face that doesn't look good. Same with Connie, her body almost looks like it is partially zombified. Also, lots of their clothing is hot, but others are amazingly not-attractive, for a game that is supposed to be sexy. I am thinking of the hotel uniforms. If I went to a hotel and saw such hideous uniforms, I would not want to come back.

I don't mean to pile on. I quite enjoy SL, almost as much as the first half of Melody, but Mr.D is way, way, too big and successful a dev to be relying on poor quality images, weird, inappropriate facial expressions, and cringey sex scenes, after many years in the business.

I get that he likes to use shortcuts to speed development, but if it looks bad or is laughable and cringey, it is not a success.

I hope he listens to his fans and tries to make the next game an actual improvement, rather than rehashing the same expressions, weird sex motions,and bland backgrounds, I guess he has saved up years ago from DMD, as his last 3 games (including this one).

 

[Hyperserver]

I second that. Shortcake is smokin, and unlike jaw1986baby, to me Ashley, church girl, and the Twins are super spicy also. But several characters just look strange. Yuki looks good from a distance, but she has this strange splotchiness to her face that doesn't look good. Same with Connie, her body almost looks like it is partially zombified. Also, lots of their clothing is hot, but others are amazingly not-attractive, for a game that is supposed to be sexy. I am thinking of the hotel uniforms. If I went to a hotel and saw such hideous uniforms, I would not want to come back.

I don't mean to pile on. I quite enjoy SL, almost as much as the first half of Melody, but Mr.D is way, way, too big and successful a dev to be relying on poor quality images, weird, inappropriate facial expressions, and cringey sex scenes, after many years in the business.

I get that he likes to use shortcuts to speed development, but if it looks bad or is laughable and cringey, it is not a success.

I hope he listens to his fans and tries to make the next game an actual improvement, rather than rehashing the same expressions, weird sex motions,and bland backgrounds, I guess he has saved up years ago from DMD, as his last 3 games (including this one).

we know - and he knows too. As i mentionned before, he will change the development. He hopes that he will learn blender fast. If you have been in a rythm over years, it's hard to change XD But after i showed him what blender can do, he instantly decided to switch to blender for the new game. So let's hope for the best - lol.

 

[jaw1986baby]

we know - and he knows too. As i mentionned before, he will change the development. He hopes that he will learn blender fast. If you have been in a rythm over years, it's hard to change XD But after i showed him what blender can do, he instantly decided to switch to blender for the new game. So let's hope for the best - lol.

Hardest part of Blender is there is a limited amount of DAZ assets that convert to Blender, it is not 100% of DAZ assets. Then there does not seem to be a good marketplace for Blender assets outside of the DAZ bridge. At least not one I have heard about. So that plus the Blender program being a bit more tricky to use and difficult to master can make switching to Blender daunting.

If he wants to learn Blender before the next game maybe after SuLo he should put out shorts. Like the DMD "what ifs" and maybe some SuLo "what ifs" to throw the fans some meat while he works it all out.



But that is of course just my thoughts on it.





PEACE

 

[cxx]

Why do the sex scenes all have these weird, unnatural motions? It looks very uncomfortable for both participants. I've never seen this in any other (non-Mr. Dots) game.

well don't ever look on talothrael's games, compared to those dots scenes are normal.

So that's my guess. Other possibilities are bad guy hotel owner or the Mayor.

sc is much older than trisha's relationship with mayor and doubt she ever met connie's dad.

 

[Son of Durin]

it's a known RenPy issue. YOu don't see the actual screen on your screenshot but one of the past ones.
You can solve that issue by NOT using fullscreen. Windowed screen should be possible to capture.

I've always used fullscreen in the past. This is the first instance of the issue I've encountered. I haven't been playing forever, but I have been playing for a little over a year, 18 different RenPy games, most through multiple updates, and this is the first time encountering the problem.

 

[Smarmint]

well don't ever look on talothrael's games, compared to those dots scenes are normal.

You are right, I forgot about Sorceror. Those animations are also not the best. Plus, they are unskippable, which is annoying. If you try to skip, you end up having to watch the whole thing, and then it skips the next 20 lines of dialog. When you go back to read it, you have to watch the whole thing again!

To be specific what I mean with Sunshine Love, the MC's dick has this extreme curved shape, and whatever act they are doing, the LI has a weird curved motion to follow along the path. It is very similar to in True Facials, if you aren't lined up right, everything just kind of is at an odd angle. It looks very unnatural. The non-penetration animations look completely fine. It is just the jerky odd angle, and curved path that the animation uses in SL. DMD was exactly the same, though I haven't played it for about a year because of obvious reasons.

Compare that to just about any other game with sex scenes, or porn, or real life, where the thrusting of either the MC or the LI is more or less mostly straight in and out.

Hopefully at least one person has an idea of what I am talking about, haha. Just rewatch the scene with Shortcake in this update, and you'll see what I mean. Or any scenes with Sis. They all use the same motion.

 

[Mistress Elemental]

It's weird that he invites cousin on a date when he's not on her path and even has option to kiss her, I made sure that I'm not on her path and still???

This is a known bug that we have corrected but it is unkown at this time if it will be a hotfix we release, or if it will need to wait until the next release. Thanks!

 

[cxx]

fix a date with si........ err............. "cousin"?

 

[mizilic]

we know - and he knows too. As i mentionned before, he will change the development. He hopes that he will learn blender fast. If you have been in a rythm over years, it's hard to change XD But after i showed him what blender can do, he instantly decided to switch to blender for the new game. So let's hope for the best - lol.

Why Blender? The best program for making animations is Poser!

 

[mizilic]

Hardest part of Blender is there is a limited amount of DAZ assets that convert to Blender, it is not 100% of DAZ assets. Then there does not seem to be a good marketplace for Blender assets outside of the DAZ bridge. At least not one I have heard about. So that plus the Blender program being a bit more tricky to use and difficult to master can make switching to Blender daunting.

If he wants to learn Blender before the next game maybe after SuLo he should put out shorts. Like the DMD "what ifs" and maybe some SuLo "what ifs" to throw the fans some meat while he works it all out.



But that is of course just my thoughts on it.





PEACE

There is a big "marketplace for Blender assets outside of the DAZ bridge". That's Second Life and Open Sim!

 

[brush_brush]

Why Blender? The best program for making animations is Poser!

And the best photo editing program is Microsoft Paint

 

[mizilic]

I don't know if this is so originaly in the game or is it from the mod but after sex with Yuki MC decided to spend the night there as we see in this image after which we get another image of the door, in a different light which is by no means morning in which the MC decides to head back to the hotel for dinner. And then the scene with his sister follows. This makes no sense if it's the original.. either he stays with Yuki for the night or he heads back. If it's the mod, we should have seen before this a choice to stay or to go or to SEE BOTH. That choice is not available!

 

[Wonko_the_Sane*]

Why Blender? The best program for making animations is Poser!

The DAZ Genesis figures are incompatible with Poser, though.

 

[mizilic]

The DAZ Genesis figures are incompatible with Poser, though.

Hmm.. I didn't know that. Are they compatible with Blender? Can they be imported in Blender. I found no way to open a .duf file in anything else than DAZ. I would like to be able to import some modified DAZ figures in Second Life and that would work through Blender, but they all come as .duf and that can't be imported in Blender. I would need .dae (collada) or at least .fbx and i don't know any converter from .duf to any of those..

 

[Fattishman]

I played through ch1 and 2 and saw no footjob. Which chapter is it in and how is it triggered? Is it easy to miss?

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[cxx]

stepmother

not stepmother, mc's and sis's daddy never married ashley so no official relationship.

 

[Fattishman]

not stepmother, mc's and sis's daddy never married ashley so no official relationship.

Yes ok, Ashley btw

 

[cxx]

Yes ok, Ashley btw

maid with whom mc had sex has bigger rights to call herself as mc's mommy than ashley.