Joshy92

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I see you are fan of LOML, i am too, because of the writing yes and because I love the Macy/Denise relationship because i am into this kind of porn and i dont consider it like NTR , if in the future you could share one of them with another dude I just pass on it. Perhaps this is hypocritical, I don't know, I just want see what i like the most.
Yeah, that game is a masterpiece I agree
And no, you are not a hypocrite.
 
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Dragon59

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I have a serious question for the people who loved the Sis & Vicki scene
And who complain about Anti NTR complainers.
would you feel the same if it was a dude and not Vicki that had sex with Sis?
I'm not trying to troll I just want to see what people opinions on that are.
How many times do you plan on repeating this.
As I said before, to be equivalent, the MC must be in a sexual relationship with BOTH of them, otherwise, it's not the same. If you want to switch genders, you have to make everything else the same.

So, your question would be, "would you feel the same if it was a dude you were fucking and not Vicki that had sex with Sis?"
 
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Joshy92

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How many times do you plan on repeating this.
As I said before, to be equivalent, the MC must be in a sexual relationship with BOTH of them, otherwise, it's not the same. If you want to switch genders, you have to make everything else the same.

So, your question would be, "would you feel the same if it was a dude you were fucking and not Vicki that had sex with Sis?"
Yes but the mc and sis are just having casual sex and that's coming from one of the devs
so, people have no right to complain if any of the girls were to have sex with dudes
But I know they would if it was in the game
Because devs aren't allowed any creativity these days it seems.

Also, I find it funny how you told me I keep repeating something.
All you do on here is complain about anti ntr complainers.
Just ignore them and they will stop

Just because you don't like people complaining about games doesn't mean people can't do it
This is an open forum complaining is allowed unless it is trolling obviously
 
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Ysbald

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I have a serious question for the people who loved the Sis & Vicki scene
And who complain about Anti NTR complainers.
would you feel the same if it was a dude and not Vicki that had sex with Sis?
I'm not trying to troll I just want to see what people opinions on that are.
Depends on the guy, if it’s a random or a character I like. I wouldn’t mind at all. For exemple, i would appreciate a full F+D swap with Graham and his daughter in the next DMD Fantasy.
On SL there are no valid guys outside the MC
 

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I have a serious question for the people who loved the Sis & Vicki scene
And who complain about Anti NTR complainers.
would you feel the same if it was a dude and not Vicki that had sex with Sis?
I'm not trying to troll I just want to see what people opinions on that are.
Yes, if the scene was tied to the MC being a manwhore and keeping other relationships a secret from Sis, then this would be a fitting punishment scene. Or a fitting gateway to an MFM threesome if they were both open about being able to see other people.

If the scene happened even if the MC chose Sis as his only LI, then I would be angry if the game didn't let me find out about it and break off the relationship. Forcing me to play through the game knowing that the LI cheats on the MC and you can't do anything about it, now *that* would be NTR.
 

Joshy92

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Yes, if the scene was tied to the MC being a manwhore and keeping other relationships a secret from Sis, then this would be a fitting punishment scene. Or a fitting gateway to an MFM threesome if they were both open about being able to see other people.

If the scene happened even if the MC chose Sis as his only LI, then I would be angry if the game didn't let me find out about it and break off the relationship. Forcing me to play through the game knowing that the LI cheats on the MC and you can't do anything about it, now *that* would be NTR.
I think that is a great response i would have given a thumbs up but i reached my limit.
 

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I have a serious question for the people who loved the Sis & Vicki scene
And who complain about Anti NTR complainers.
would you feel the same if it was a dude and not Vicki that had sex with Sis?
I'm not trying to troll I just want to see what people opinions on that are.
I personally consider a scene like that to be a hot lesbian scene and eventually an opportunity to get a threesome without even having to do shit for it and not ntr.

Now let's see if it's actually is ntr or not besides my personal pov.

vndb tag:

The games which contain the scenes with protagonist's female significant other being stolen by another female, should be given this tag.

It's important to note that due to the prevalence of "girl-on-girl is hot" trope, it's common for many VNs to throw in lesbian scenes between the heroine and another female. Most of the time it is not considered NTR due to the protagonist not minding or even encouraging the lesbian exploration of their significant other. Only use the tag if another female clearly has a design to steal the heroine, and the protagonist experiences jealousy and other negative emotions associated with the netorare fetish.

I think the definition should be enough but let's dig more into it.
So by definition it would be considered ntr if one of the women's featuring the lesbian scene is an antagonist or just a random women who isn't a li already just like with most general ntr games.
Which is not the case in that scene so that scene shouldn't be considered ntr, that's why this thread cannot be tagged with it.

Now you asked if it would be considered ntr if it was a dude in place of Vicky

Yes most definitely because fortunately this isn't a gay title so any male in the game cannot be a LI of the mc and as such any male involved with any li in this game would be considered ntr.

But you can't relate this fact to that scene to prove that it is ntr.
 

Joshy92

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I personally consider a scene like that to be a hot lesbian scene and eventually an opportunity to get a threesome without even having to do shit for it and not ntr.

Now let's see if it's actually is ntr or not besides my personal pov.

vndb tag:

The games which contain the scenes with protagonist's female significant other being stolen by another female, should be given this tag.

It's important to note that due to the prevalence of "girl-on-girl is hot" trope, it's common for many VNs to throw in lesbian scenes between the heroine and another female. Most of the time it is not considered NTR due to the protagonist not minding or even encouraging the lesbian exploration of their significant other. Only use the tag if another female clearly has a design to steal the heroine, and the protagonist experiences jealousy and other negative emotions associated with the netorare fetish.

I think the definition should be enough but let's dig more into it.
So by definition it would be considered ntr if one of the women's featuring the lesbian scene is an antagonist or just a random women who isn't a li already just like with most general ntr games.
Which is not the case in that scene so that scene shouldn't be considered ntr, that's why this thread cannot be tagged with it.

Now you asked if it would be considered ntr if it was a dude in place of Vicky

Yes most definitely because fortunately this isn't a gay title so any male in the game cannot be a LI of the mc and as such any male involved with any li in this game would be considered ntr.

But you can't relate this fact to that scene to prove that it is ntr.
Humans are emotional animals you and I both know not everyone follows the ntr tag like it's definition
Why do you think there are so many arguments about it

Also, I wasn't talking about it that way I was just pointing out hypocrisy.
And some people are sick of being lied to when a dev doesn't say there is lesbian content.
I'm not specifically talking about this
But I'll give you an example

The game Harem Hotel has unavoidable lesbian content
But that is not listed in the op anywhere and I am sick and tired of games not giving info like that before I play
Everything I want to know about a game should be in the op

Another thing that annoys me is games having fake choices just to avoid the kinetic tag

Edit - Also It wouldn't be ntr if it was a dude because according to one of the devs sis & the mc are just having casual sex they are not in a relationship
 
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True I was just thinking.
Because I saw some people say It's just casual sex so it's not ntr
Would they still feel the same if it was some dude and not vicki with sis in that scene.
with other dude it would be diff. thing.
 

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Playing this game I rejected the twins early on, told them I was not interested. barely spoke to them for the first few weeks. Now I'm on week 4 and they are thinking and talking about a scene I did not see. At the mask festival (week 4) I have a forced a forced sex scene with Lily (who I chose to not have a sexual relationship with). I added the WT mod and reduced relationship points to -5, still get the forced scene.

I have also had other inconsistancies, for example early game at the beach house I rejected the second kiss with redhead cousin, she thinks, "looks like MC is not interested in me", then almost immediately thinks, "can't believe he kissed me again, maybe relationship is moving too fast"

do relationship points mean anything? I feel like choices have no impact on the game. Is this a constant theme through the game or did I just encounter a few errors?
 
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Playing this game I rejected the twins early on, told them I was not interested. barely spoke to them for the first few weeks. Now I'm on week 4 and they are thinking and talking about a scene I did not see. At the mask festival (week 4) I have a forced a forced sex scene with Lily (who I chose to not have a sexual relationship with). I added the WT mod and reduced relationship points to -5, still get the forced scene.

I have also had other inconsistancies, for example early game at the beach house I rejected the second kiss with redhead cousin, she thinks, "looks like MC is not interested in me", then almost immediately thinks, "can't believe he kissed me again, maybe relationship is moving too fast"

do relationship points mean anything? I feel like choices have no impact on the game. Is this a constant theme through the game or did I just encounter a few errors?
Let me look into these issues. The twin's one sounds familier and I believe that was a bug we fixed already, but let me confirm. As for the cousin issue, I'll check that one as well. Thanks for the report.
 
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