VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[Hyperserver]

Not to forget the bad (illegal ??? - no personal proof so far, only knowing what i have been told) practise of STEAM happened to devs i know:
First Valve took their page down, then all paid money has been frozen and not paid out to the dev.
After asking what happens to that money, Valve answered that they will pay back all the people who purchased.
BUT:
Talking directly to the people who bought, all user which were asked didn't get any money back at all.
Asking Valve about that, the only answer has been like "You are banned - because of ToS violation your money is confiscated and you have no say and no right to be informed what we do after you being banned."

The first time i heared such things, i couldn't believe it and thought the dev exaggerated - but i now know more than one dev who actually independently from each other told the same experience.

 

[cxx]

^right on proverbial nail.

 

[jaw1986baby]

Not to forget the bad (illegal ??? - no personal proof so far, only knowing what i have been told) practise of STEAM happened to devs i know:
First Valve took their page down, then all paid money has been frozen and not paid out to the dev.
After asking what happens to that money, Valve answered that they will pay back all the people who purchased.
BUT:
Talking directly to the people who bought, all user which were asked didn't get any money back at all.
Asking Valve about that, the only answer has been like "You are banned - because of ToS violation your money is confiscated and you have no say and no right to be informed what we do after you being banned."

The first time i heared such things, i couldn't believe it and thought the dev exaggerated - but i now know more than one dev who actually independently from each other told the same experience.

is GOG as bad as that? They sell AVNs as well

 

[Hyperserver]

is GOG as bad as that? They sell AVNs as well

no clue about GOG, just that i know Dots mentionned GOG is no alternative for us after he did some research.

Best and only fair solution (at least until now) is still Subscribestar.

 

[cxx]

is GOG as bad as that? They sell AVNs as well

sometime ago they didn't allow nudity on preview pics.

 

[White Lamp]

I’m curious how much extra money do people make on steam. It’s seem like every dev wants to get on steam.

 

[Hyperserver]

What i still don't understand:
If you have a game which has some girls who just LOOK too young, it's a terribe no no and you will be banned. (patreon)

BUT:
If you report a game (like Raptus on patreon), which one and only goal is to beat up women, break their bones, rape them and rip unborn babies out of their womb, you only got as response "It's just a fictive story - nothing we will do against".

So i stopped to ask and came to the understanding that there are no binding equal standards for all. Maybe support people simply throw dice every day which game they take down, and which not. It's pure luck whether you get banned or not - not really depending on your content. I just gave up to think about WHY - can't do anything against that practice anyways and it will only cost your energy.

EDIT:
WHOW - i take it back - seems they NOW act after months of doing nothing

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[Hyperserver]

I’m curious how much extra money do people make on steam. It’s seem like every dev wants to get on steam.

it's less the money - it's more like creating publicity. (millions of new players get to know your work)
Even more as steam takes a 30% cut for themself.
And you don't get a permanent support, you only get paid once - updates are for free, as it's no new game or dlc - so overall the money is less than SS or patreon.

 

[cxx]

I’m curious how much extra money do people make on steam. It’s seem like every dev wants to get on steam.

doubt any1 will reveal numbers but if patreon gives few thousand then steam can give that sum tenfold.

What i still don't understand:
If you have a game which has some girls who just LOOK too young, it's a terribe no no and you will be banned.

right, can make mass slaughter but not young looking girls having sex.

 

[Bloodguard]

I’m curious how much extra money do people make on steam. It’s seem like every dev wants to get on steam.

Well, Dev of FreshWomen announced on their Steam page that they had sold a million units. That's for an unfinished game that has been on there less than two years. At 13.99 US dollars for each unit, that's a pile of money, even with Steams cut, not to mention, they have over 7k Patrons. So, yes, getting on Steam can make it a sustainable job for a lot of Devs.

 

[Hyperserver]

Well, Dev of FreshWomen announced on their Steam page that they had sold a million units. That's for an unfinished game that has been on there less than two years. At 13.99 US dollars for each unit, that's a pile of money, even with Steams cut, not to mention, they have over 7k Patrons. So, yes, getting on Steam can make it a sustainable job for a lot of Devs.

doubt they sold 1 mio.
Aside that, the second largest country of supporters of MrDots (behind USA) actually is Germany, which is restricted on Steam for adult VN at all.

 

[White Lamp]

Well, Dev of FreshWomen announced on their Steam page that they had sold a million units. That's for an unfinished game that has been on there less than two years. At 13.99 US dollars for each unit, that's a pile of money, even with Steams cut, not to mention, they have over 7k Patrons. So, yes, getting on Steam can make it a sustainable job for a lot of Devs.

Holy crap. So 15, is that include all updates or just to that point?

 

[Bloodguard]

Holy crap. So 15, is that include all updates or just to that point?

That's just Season 1. Season 2 will be releasing on Steam later this year, it will probably sell just as well. No reason to think they are lying about an official sales post on Steam. Not that hard to verify it either.
The game does not have great writing, but the girls are gorgeous and the lewds are amazing.
Breaking it into separate seasons is basically allowing them to print money. I'm sure all the Patrons don't hurt either.
Steam can reach a pretty wide audience. DrPinkCake has sold well over a million of BaDIK, NLT is up there with Treasure of Nadia, as well. Also saw a post that Fetish Locator had sold those kinds of numbers as well, but don't know if it's just part 3, or all parts combined.
All you need to be able to buy the games in Germany is a decent VPN, or so I have been told.
One of the top selling games of 2023 on Steam was Village Rhapsody. It's a Chinese Hentai game, and that's across all categories, not just adult games. Those Devs made a ton of cash, and their English is barely comprehensible.

 

[cxx]

well doubt that dev gets all that money after steam's cut to himself since government wants it share and unless he did everything by himself then needs to pay to others.

 

[Squirrel Warlord]

that bug will be fixed in our next game

It's a shame that there is no harem route. I am looking forward for your next game. I played Sunshine love when it had just one chapter and was hoping for a harem tag in the future. So many gorgeous women in the game, it really breaks my heart to not be able to give them all the attention they deserve. Speaking of which, are your models created in Daz? They seem somewhat different, more beautiful than what a lot of other games using Daz have.
About your signature: If you don't mind me asking, what's up with Patreon rules in regards to having an official Discord server? I've never heard about something like that.

 

[Hyperserver]

It's a shame that there is no harem route. I am looking forward for your next game. I played Sunshine love when it had just one chapter and was hoping for a harem tag in the future. So many gorgeous women in the game, it really breaks my heart to not be able to give them all the attention they deserve. Speaking of which, are your models created in Daz? They seem somewhat different, more beautiful than what a lot of other games using Daz have.
About your signature: If you don't mind me asking, what's up with Patreon rules in regards to having an official Discord server? I've never heard about something like that.

on discord there are posts, talk and content which violates Patreon's ToS.
According to these ToS we are not allowed to link to any such platforms violating the ToS - so we aren't allowed to create or host any Discord server which contains material about DMD for example. So we decided NOT to maintain any official Discord, but people are free to create a fan based Server. (*wink)

 

[cxx]

well that no incest etc on discord if game is at patreon could lead "few" devs getting booted from patreon due fan art.

 

[dirtydandoogan1]

tell me something new - we just wanted to end SL and start our new game. We know that we kind of messed up SL compared to DMD and Melody.
Sometimes it's better to acknowledge mistakes and start from something new rather than trying to tinker around something hopeless.

Oh, you messed up DMD too. First two chapters were amazing. Last two were repetitive and pandering. Just my view.

 

[Squirrel Warlord]

on discord there are posts, talk and content which violates Patreon's ToS.
According to these ToS we are not allowed to link to any such platforms violating the ToS - so we aren't allowed to create or host any Discord server which contains material about DMD for example. So we decided NOT to maintain any official Discord, but people are free to create a fan based Server. (*wink)

Ah, I see. Makes sense.
What about the models though? I hope it's not a trade secret.

 

[cxx]

What about the models though? I hope it's not a trade secret.

those are daz models with more or less changing.