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well they could get rid of them for starters.. an unnecessary gimmickWhat is there to fix? You can turn them off in the options as far as I know.
well they could get rid of them for starters.. an unnecessary gimmickWhat is there to fix? You can turn them off in the options as far as I know.
Manipulation is just a fact of life. In every relationship manipulation is present in some form. Practiced by all to some degree or another, and it's human nature to try to get your way. It's not that the person who is attempting to manipulate another is bad automatically, you need to consider the underlying motivations before assessing negative connotations to the act.So the MC's girlfriend, sister, and father are all pretty manipulative...this is gonna be a deep hole for the game to climb out of for me.
I don't particularly care where the manipulation comes from; I immediately dislike said characters. The girlfriend decides to offload the MC as her problem and the sister outright lies to drag you into her problems despite a decade of absence. They are all starting from a net negative position for me as I despise manipulative individuals as a rule.Manipulation is just a fact of life. In every relationship manipulation is present in some form. Practiced by all to some degree or another, and it's human nature to try to get your way. It's not that the person who is attempting to manipulate another is bad automatically, you need to consider the underlying motivations before assessing negative connotations to the act.
1. The girlfriend; She manipulates from a position of fear, of financial distress, and the unknown, Being a lawyer she has been trained to manipulate as part of her everyday world. I see no malice in her intent so I overlook it.
2. The sister; She Lied because she hoped to gain a little time to get your family bonds to kick in before hitting you with the truth. Deceptive as it was you have the choice to accept helping her of walk away so it's your call to decide. Then you are in a position to manipulate her.
3. The Father; Show me what father with a military background isn't going to attempt to use the Military Service as a motivational tool. The threat of enlistment of their child in a branch of the Armed Forces is nothing new. It is the last option available to him before accepting the fact that his is a losing battle and I see this as typical behavior.
So I really don't see where this big hole your describing is located at. Nor do I see any problems with the story as written, In fact I see this as a start to anther awesome MrDots slam dunk.
Well excuse the fuck out of me for expressing my opinion about characters and being attacked without warrant for them and then the attacker turning around and calling discussion meritless because I held to my views?Just from reading his signature you know that it's gotta be his way or the highway, so you are 100% right. Completely useless to engage in any kind of debate.
Well, maybe this isn't the game for you. That's OK, but do we really need to know that?Well excuse the fuck out of me for expressing my opinion about characters and being attacked without warrant for them and then the attacker turning around and calling discussion meritless because I held to my views?
Maybe you hadn't noticed that there are multiple characters to romance and -gasp- I might enjoy their story. I spoke of two that rubbed me the wrong way and got attacked for that. What is it with the folks immediately jumping to, you shouldn't play this game if you don't like EVERYTHING about it? Seriously this kind of zealotry towards of anyone who criticizes anything in the game isn't healthy.Well, maybe this isn't the game for you. That's OK, but do we really need to know that?
Need to quit chatting with ignored members, wanna borrow my listWell, maybe this isn't the game for you. That's OK, but do we really need to know that?
Well, for once in life there are two easy solutions.well they could get rid of them for starters.. an unnecessary gimmick
Then how you even menage to get a relationship in RL,if you dislike so much people who manipulate you?I don't particularly care where the manipulation comes from; I immediately dislike said characters. The girlfriend decides to offload the MC as her problem and the sister outright lies to drag you into her problems despite a decade of absence. They are all starting from a net negative position for me as I despise manipulative individuals as a rule.
Man, reading this sort of shit is sad. The fact that people are so used to having shitty relationships with others and are have accepted it. If you have a manipulative relationship with someone, they don't care about you, and the best thing you can do is leave that relationship. Remember, even if they are your family, they can still be shitty people.Then how you even menage to get a relationship in RL,if you dislike so much people who manipulate you?
You do realise that even your cat/dog or whatever animal can easily manipulate you?What about little kids?
Or your motehr/father/sister/brother?
So you what-throw them away the moment they did that?
We are not talking for hardest manipulation.Everyone do it.Even you,don't lie.And no that doesn't mean the person don't care about you.It can be the other way around.They manipulate you to do something because they care and love you.I saw this many times with people that have some addiction and don't want to get a help.Man, reading this sort of shit is sad. The fact that people are so used to having shitty relationships with others and are have accepted it. If you have a manipulative relationship with someone, they don't care about you, and the best thing you can do is leave that relationship. Remember, even if they are your family, they can still be shitty people.
Your post was very...forceful. My take from reading it is you were very upset by the game. That, combined with your signature, leaves me with the impression that you are very rigid in thinking, and very strongly dislike things that are not just right. I might be completely off in that assessment, but that's the impression I'm getting.Maybe you hadn't noticed that there are multiple characters to romance and -gasp- I might enjoy their story. I spoke of two that rubbed me the wrong way and got attacked for that. What is it with the folks immediately jumping to, you shouldn't play this game if you don't like EVERYTHING about it? Seriously this kind of zealotry towards of anyone who criticizes anything in the game isn't healthy.
Yeah, no. Don't project your own shit onto others. If you gotta manipulate people to get them to do what you want, it's all on you, don't lump them in the same basket to make it seem like what you're doing is somehow good.We are not talking for hardest manipulation.Everyone do it.Even you,don't lie.And no that doesn't mean the person don't care about you.It can be the other way around.They manipulate you to do something because they care and love you.I saw this many times with people that have some addiction and don't want to get a help.