Ren'Py Abandoned Sunville [v0.7beta3] [feierflei]

[TheDevian]

Nice update but did not get to see the third beach bar scene before it told me I had reached the end of 0.3. I tried to go on the second day, after doing first beach bar event but it did not give me an option for the beach bar, neither at afternoon or evening. After the camping trip, I got to finally do my second shift but then that night ended the 0.3 build.

Yeah, it could be tight to get that in, in 4 I think, he said he was going to make it so you can repeat the last day over and over so you can finish things like that. So, if you don't want to go back, just wait for the next one, shouldn't be THAT much longer.

 

[buttsnstuff]

anyone got a save at the end of the old content? i had to reinstall windows since the last update and don't want to grind through it again

 

[TheDevian]

anyone got a save at the end of the old content? i had to reinstall windows since the last update and don't want to grind through it again

Um, okay... This is the end of 2.

 

[bsjfan69]

This game is 100% a one trick pony. That one trick being FF exhibitionism. There is absolutely nothing else of value in this game. But that one thing it does, it does very well. So if you're into that, it's alright. Though I would make the video game scenes skippable, they're pretty bad.

 

[feierflei]

This game is 100% a one trick pony. That one trick being FF exhibitionism. There is absolutely nothing else of value in this game. But that one thing it does, it does very well. So if you're into that, it's alright. Though I would make the video game scenes skippable, they're pretty bad.

Well yes, that's pretty much what I advertise it as, after all. Thanks for the praise

And I don't think I'll make those scenes skippable, since they have an impact on the real world and I really enjoy making them.
If you don't like them, ren'py has a built-in function to let you fast forward through content in a few seconds. Just check "Skip unseen text" in the options window and press ctrl.

 

[TheDevian]

This game is 100% a one trick pony. That one trick being FF exhibitionism. There is absolutely nothing else of value in this game. But that one thing it does, it does very well. So if you're into that, it's alright. Though I would make the video game scenes skippable, they're pretty bad.

Fair, if you are not into that, this probably isn't the game for you. Since I am into that, I consider it one of my favorite new games this year.

 

[DWR Games]

Fair, if you are not into that, this probably isn't the game for you. Since I am into that, I consider it one of my favorite new games this year.

I fully agree XD

 

[DrDerpington]

This game is 100% a one trick pony. That one trick being FF exhibitionism.

Well yes, that's pretty much what I advertise it as, after all. Thanks for the praise

To be honest, more straight M/F content wouldnt hurt. You have already done some m/f content so adding more shouldnt be a big issue. Heroine clearly likes males as well, so her bisexual orientation is obvious.

Anyway keep up the good work.
I also might write same post to you on Patreon. It depends whether I will overcome aversion to their terrible system of comments and chat, heh.

 

[TheDevian]

To be honest, more straight M/F content wouldnt hurt. You have already done some m/f content so adding more shouldnt be a big issue. Heroine clearly likes males as well, so her bisexual orientation is obvious.

Anyway keep up the good work.
I also might write same post to you on Patreon. It depends whether I will overcome aversion to their terrible system of comments and chat, heh.

Personally, I like that it has stayed predominantly in the background, and that men barely even exist in this world. There are not enough exhibitionism games where the girl doesn't turn into a big slut, taking any dick in a pinch.

Unless I am playing the guy, I would rather not see them. Besides, men in HS are usually pretty ugly.

 

[DrDerpington]

Personally, I like that it has stayed predominantly in the background, and that men barely even exist in this world. There are not enough exhibitionism games where the girl doesn't turn into a big slut, taking any dick in a pinch.

Unless I am playing the guy, I would rather not see them. Besides, men in HS are usually pretty ugly.

So exhibitionist girl around males will become slut, but exhibitionist girl around females will not become slut?? Your logic doesnt make sense.

Spoiler: definition of a slut

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And as far male modes in HS games:
Male modes usually look ugly because author dont care about them and they only do shallow work. Why they should try hard, when majority of people play the games to see boobs (or girls in general).
Basically it means, that a game with hot females and ugly males can still have huge success... but a game with ugly females will usually end up as failure. Its simple logic.

 

[red_faced]

So exhibitionist girl around males equals slut, but exhibitionist girl around females is not slut?? Your logic doesnt make sense.

Representation for lesbian sluts! ✊

 

[TheDevian]

So exhibitionist girl around males will become slut, but exhibitionist girl around females will not become slut?? Your logic doesnt make sense.

Spoiler: definition of a slut

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And as far male modes in HS games:
Male modes usually look ugly because author dont care about them and they only do shallow work. Why they should try hard, when majority of people play the games to see boobs (or girls in general).
Basically it means, that a game with hot females and ugly males can still have huge success... but a game with ugly females will usually end up as failure. Its simple logic.

I don't have a problem with the slut part, I have a problem with a character I am playing, jumping on any dick that gets close. In most games, these things are not optional. If the MC doesn't have a dick, I don't want to see them in the game if I can help it. If I am playing a female, I want her to be a lesbian, just like if I am playing a male, I want him to be straight. I only like women, and I only want any character I am playing in a sex game to go after women.

Frankly, I don't care if there is no sex in there at all, that would not bother me in the slightest. I appreciate exhibitionism for its own sake. My favorite scenes are the ones with 'self love', or where she is getting off on just being seen. If she never has sex with anyone, male or female, I would still love this game, maybe even more.

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There are not even half the assets for male models in HS, including skins, hair, and more, and they are much harder to find. While it can be done, it takes a lot more work, not only in making the character, but also finding the assets.

 

[icollectsouls]

This game is 100% a one trick pony. That one trick being FF exhibitionism. There is absolutely nothing else of value in this game. But that one thing it does, it does very well. So if you're into that, it's alright. Though I would make the video game scenes skippable, they're pretty bad.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with a porn game focusing so heavily on a single fetish; means you know what you're getting for the most part and if you don't like it, it's not hard at all to just move on and play something else that has what you're looking for.
Having a particular fetish as the focus of a game also means that hopefully, the content is decent-to-good for the fetish itself, and in cases where it applies, a decent-to-good variety of scenarios/scenes/etc. involving the fetish. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have stuff like Corruption of Champions where they jam-pack the game with as much fetishes and kinks as possible, to the point where a fetish might be included, but there's only like one scene for it despite the quality of the scene itself, or maybe a bunch of lackluster scenes for one thing. The latter feels like it happens a lot with pregnancy content, where a game might have the playable character able to be impregnated by a bunch of different things but there's not a lot of in-game difference if you're knocked up by one thing or another.

Spoiler: On M/F content

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I'm going to have to agree with TheDevian here - I much prefer the F/F content and focus, especially when the amount of games with entirely-or-mostly-F/F stuff is so criminally low. The main reason why this game even caught my eye in the first place was that males were unseen in the preview images, and the fact there's only one scene involving one (optional at that) is very nice compared to games that do the complete opposite (a lot of M/F scenes and one or two extremely-lackluster F/F scenes.)

Spoiler: Male models in Honey Select

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I can't say I've seen any males in a Honey Select game that look good, really. As far as I know a lot of them use the same/similar ugly-ass base dude that looks like some Japanese incel. Mystic Manor does a good job of avoiding the issue by just never having the face visible for the most part, the (mostly) 1st-person PoV is definitely one of the game's strong suits.
I also have to say that I don't like the look of dudes in other 3D games, though. Daz models always look uncanny-valley to me, and most devs making custom graphics for Unity3D or Unreal Engine stuff don't tend to make guys that I want to see in sex scenes either. I think the last game I played where I didn't hate seeing dudes was Artificial Academy 2 (a game I last played years ago at this point), because they stylistically looked just fine next to the females and were at least decently-customizable as well. Didn't have to deal with seeing some generic vaguely-muscular short-haired douchebag in a sex scene when I was able to play as a tall & skinny long-haired prettyboy.

 

[TheDevian]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with a porn game focusing so heavily on a single fetish; means you know what you're getting for the most part and if you don't like it, it's not hard at all to just move on and play something else that has what you're looking for.
Having a particular fetish as the focus of a game also means that hopefully, the content is decent-to-good for the fetish itself, and in cases where it applies, a decent-to-good variety of scenarios/scenes/etc. involving the fetish. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have stuff like Corruption of Champions where they jam-pack the game with as much fetishes and kinks as possible, to the point where a fetish might be included, but there's only like one scene for it despite the quality of the scene itself, or maybe a bunch of lackluster scenes for one thing. The latter feels like it happens a lot with pregnancy content, where a game might have the playable character able to be impregnated by a bunch of different things but there's not a lot of in-game difference if you're knocked up by one thing or another.
I'm going to have to agree with TheDevian here - I much prefer the F/F content and focus, especially when the amount of games with entirely-or-mostly-F/F stuff is so criminally low. The main reason why this game even caught my eye in the first place was that males were unseen in the preview images, and the fact there's only one scene involving one (optional at that) is very nice compared to games that do the complete opposite (a lot of M/F scenes and one or two extremely-lackluster F/F scenes.)
I can't say I've seen any males in a Honey Select game that look good, really. As far as I know a lot of them use the same/similar ugly-ass base dude that looks like some Japanese incel. Mystic Manor does a good job of avoiding the issue by just never having the face visible for the most part, the (mostly) 1st-person PoV is definitely one of the game's strong suits.
I also have to say that I don't like the look of dudes in other 3D games, though. Daz models always look uncanny-valley to me, and most devs making custom graphics for Unity3D or Unreal Engine stuff don't tend to make guys that I want to see in sex scenes either. I think the last game I played where I didn't hate seeing dudes was Artificial Academy 2 (a game I last played years ago at this point), because they stylistically looked just fine next to the females and were at least decently-customizable as well. Didn't have to deal with seeing some generic vaguely-muscular short-haired douchebag in a sex scene when I was able to play as a tall & skinny long-haired prettyboy.

Well, a friend of mine managed to recreate the MC from my game in HS, and he came out looking pretty good, but that was the exception, not the rule. (She also has an asset library for it that is around 700gig).

Even when you can manage to get one looking good, change the lighting a bit, and the color will change completely. Males in HS are just a mess. The engine, the modders, the asset creators, none of them give males much love.

If we never see another male in the game, I will be a pretty happy camper.

 

[DrDerpington]

I don't have a problem with the slut part, I have a problem with a character I am playing, jumping on any dick that gets close. In most games, these things are not optional. If the MC doesn't have a dick, I don't want to see them in the game if I can help it. If I am playing a female, I want her to be a lesbian, just like if I am playing a male, I want him to be straight. I only like women, and I only want any character I am playing in a sex game to go after women.

Frankly, I don't care if there is no sex in there at all, that would not bother me in the slightest. I appreciate exhibitionism for its own sake. My favorite scenes are the ones with 'self love', or where she is getting off on just being seen. If she never has sex with anyone, male or female, I would still love this game, maybe even more.

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There are not even half the assets for male models in HS, including skins, hair, and more, and they are much harder to find. While it can be done, it takes a lot more work, not only in making the character, but also finding the assets.

Ok. I get it. It is your personal fetish to avoid seeing any male. Good for you. Unfortunately for you, people have numerous kinks. Life is all about variety.

Me and huge number of other player, we would like to see something more. It doesnt have to be a lot, just some. It is perfectly fine for main theme to revolve around exhibitionism. But it should add some variety and not just focus on being one trick pony.

 

[icollectsouls]

Ok. I get it. It is your personal fetish to avoid seeing any male. Good for you. Unfortunately for you, people have numerous kinks. Life is all about variety.

Me and huge number of other player, we would like to see something more. It doesnt have to be a lot, just some. It is perfectly fine for main theme to revolve around exhibitionism. But it should add some variety and not just focus on being one trick pony.

I'm curious to know where the "huge number of other player" is coming from. A lot of the praise for this game in the thread relates to how it's a near-exclusive F/F game with minimal content involving males.
I think you're also assuming there can't be "variety" in a F/F game - there's plenty in the game already to show different kinds of exhibitionist scenarios that are either directly lesbian or lesbian in nature.

 

[DrDerpington]

I'm curious to know where the "huge number of other player" is coming from. A lot of the praise for this game in the thread relates to how it's a near-exclusive F/F game with minimal content involving males.
I think you're also assuming there can't be "variety" in a F/F game - there's plenty in the game already to show different kinds of exhibitionist scenarios that are either directly lesbian or lesbian in nature.

Oh, such sweet naivety. It must be nice to think, that 8 pages on the forum are accurate assessment of oppinions of all the players.
You remind of "furry" comunity. They also assume that everybody must love furry porn, because game threads with furry content are full of praise.

 

[feierflei]

Alright people, where do I start?


First of all, there will be at least one new m/f scene in 0.5, because I want my characters to have fun. And for some of them, that means hetero stuff. It will be completely skippable, non-story relevant stuff, obviously.

Male modes usually look ugly because author dont care about them and they only do shallow work.

I, personally, don't especially enjoy making scenes with males in them. Which is why I made this game almost exclusively lesbian focused in the first place, and why I let this world have a gender ratio of around 10/90 in the lore. Just so I can avoid putting males in crowds whenever I can.
I don't enjoy posing them, and I sure as heck don't enjoy creating them in the unholy abyss that is the Male Character Creator in HS. It's certainly possible to make decent-looking men, but it takes a disproportionate amount of time (and mods). Time I'm not willing to spend, when I can create a whole day of new story content instead.
So, males in my game will look extraordinarily bland, and the scenes will be low-quality at best.
They are nothing more than Dick Delivery Devices, and that won't change, because I just don't care enough to put in the work.

Me and huge number of other player, we would like to see something more. It doesnt have to be a lot, just some. It is perfectly fine for main theme to revolve around exhibitionism. But it should add some variety and not just focus on being one trick pony.

Now, this might seem arrogant, but I don't really care. If I cared about what the average player wants to see, I'd have created another BB clone. What I should add is my decision alone, which is why none of my patreon tiers give any kind of influence over the direction of the game.
I will create what I want to create, because if I didn't, I'd lose all motivation in a matter of days and would start producing what I consider uninspired, generic crap.

Sorry if my wall of text seems like an attack or something along those lines, it is not intended as such. I just wanted to explain my point of view, but my ranting habits got the better of me.

 

[DrDerpington]

First of all, there will be at least one new m/f scene in 0.5, because I want my characters to have fun. And for some of them, that means hetero stuff. It will be completely skippable, non-story relevant stuff, obviously.

I, personally, don't especially enjoy making scenes with males in them. Which is why I made this game almost exclusively lesbian focused in the first place, and why I let this world have a gender ratio of around 10/90 in the lore. Just so I can avoid putting males in crowds whenever I can.
I don't enjoy posing them, and I sure as heck don't enjoy creating them in the unholy abyss that is the Male Character Creator in HS. It's certainly possible to make decent-looking men, but it takes a disproportionate amount of time (and mods). Time I'm not willing to spend, when I can create a whole day of new story content instead.
So, males in my game will look extraordinarily bland, and the scenes will be low-quality at best.
They are nothing more than Dick Delivery Devices, and that won't change, because I just don't care enough to put in the work.

Now, this might seem arrogant, but I don't really care. If I cared about what the average player wants to see, I'd have created another BB clone. What I should add is my decision alone, which is why none of my patreon tiers give any kind of influence over the direction of the game.
I will create what I want to create, because if I didn't, I'd lose all motivation in a matter of days and would start producing what I consider uninspired, generic crap.

Sorry if my wall of text seems like an attack or something along those lines, it is not intended as such. I just wanted to explain my point of view, but my ranting habits got the better of me.

Cool. Good to know, where the game will progress. I also understand why creating males might be complicated in HS. But like I have said, life is about variety. Its good that you intend to add some hetero content (even though it will be minimal amount and skippable as well).

I also support you on Patreon, because I like the game. Keep up the good work.

 

[jclosed]

Well... Let's say I am for the F/F content here. I would hate to see male content added to make this VN the 1234232527383763562-th one to do so. There are not a lot of F/F only visual novels. Probably they are about 0.5 ~ 5% of the total content, so I would like to see this visual novel as F/F as possible. People that want male content mixed in, can find a mountain of stuff that's in their taste already.

Don't get me wrong - I also like F/M targeted novels, but as said, there are already tons of visual novels that concentrate on that kind of content. I would hate to see this visual novel go down the easy path after such a good start.