VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.986] [WeirdWorld]

[ItzSyther]

what the fuck is Shadow doing there

What do you mean brother? She's the best girl.

Them odds are a fun time though.

I swear shopkeep only popped up because of the discord wanting to bang him.

 

[citrone]

i haven't played through all the game yet but i have to say, i'm getting kinda tired of the S.I.N guys repeating the:
>uhhm actually we're the good ones!!
>H.E.R.O is evil just like us because you killed humans in a fight by accident too see
and bullshit like that (from Shen and the other kids)
i don't know if the author is intentional with all this bullshit or if he wants the player to actually believe it

 

[citrone]

Cole

he's literally built for MC's dick

 

[Ddlc]

i haven't played through all the game yet but i have to say, i'm getting kinda tired of the S.I.N guys repeating the:
>uhhm actually we're the good ones!!
>H.E.R.O is evil just like us because you killed humans in a fight by accident too see
and bullshit like that (from Shen and the other kids)
i don't know if the author is intentional with all this bullshit or if he wants the player to actually believe it

I think that there are quite a few valid reasons to criticize HERO but regarding how SIN does that I guess the point is to show they are at the same time hypocritical, manipulative and self deluded.
For example:
During Cole's flashback he is "tortured" by Bramon, but that scene is on his point of view, anyone else understands that it was a training and the reasoning behind it, so Cole deluded himself in thinking that he was being hurt for no valid reason when it was for his own good.
When Shen is talking to Elijah it's clear that it's for the purpose of manipulating him, Elijah has doubts and Shen explores then.
Back when Cole killed the TV host he mentioned that HERO tortures people but it's very clear that it's the same methods used by Tanos, it could be argued that Tanos is even less moral about his experiments than Bramon, HERO had a minimum threshold of safety to turn people into superhuman but it looks like SIN didn't.

 

[ItzSyther]

"tortured"

so Cole deluded himself in thinking that he was being hurt for no valid reason when it was for his own good

What Cole underwent most definitely qualifies as torture.

No matter how someone twists and turns it even if its for his own "good" he was a child undergoing brutal experiments that left plenty of damage to his psyche.

There's a whole plethora of issues with what happened to Cole. Obviously we have no clue what happened to the other kids (yet) but I have no doubts that Bramon did other extreme things with them.

People confuse me with this honestly even if he knew it was for his own "good" there is no way he as a child would ever just "suck it up" and take all that pain and punishment without begging for it to stop.

 

[Sayajin2205]

I think that there are quite a few valid reasons to criticize HERO but regarding how SIN does that I guess the point is to show they are at the same time hypocritical, manipulative and self deluded.
For example:
During Cole's flashback he is "tortured" by Bramon, but that scene is on his point of view, anyone else understands that it was a training and the reasoning behind it, so Cole deluded himself in thinking that he was being hurt for no valid reason when it was for his own good.
When Shen is talking to Elijah it's clear that it's for the purpose of manipulating him, Elijah has doubts and Shen explores then.
Back when Cole killed the TV host he mentioned that HERO tortures people but it's very clear that it's the same methods used by Tanos, it could be argued that Tanos is even less moral about his experiments than Bramon, HERO had a minimum threshold of safety to turn people into superhuman but it looks like SIN didn't

Didn't you get that from all the dialogue in the game that Cole hates Tanos even more?He is with SIN only because of Ella the man literally only cares about is being with Ella and to be with her he knows he needs to be strong that's it as for the torture part it is torture ffs physical and psychological both doing experiments on a kid who wasn't even a teen is torture lol.It doesn't matter what "good" they wanted to do it's still torturing a child and guess what it wouldn't be even that bad if they didn't keep him and the others as lab rats.The kids got zero nurturing there was no adult to give them love or even appreciation.If after all the physical torture he got some love and appreciation he wouldn't be this fucked up.So not only was it physical torture it was mental as well.Cole wouldn't be this fucked up if hero nurtured them not to mention just imagine your life as kid is about every day you just go and feel pain and that's it.It is more likely than not that kid would be fucked up.It doesn't excuse him being POS but it's understandable why he turned out like this.I got zero love for Cole and would kill him if I get the chance but let's not change the facts and act like what happened to him as a kid wasn't torture in both physical and psychological manner.

 

[Ddlc]

What Cole underwent most definitely qualifies as torture.

No matter how someone twists and turns it even if its for his own "good" he was a child undergoing brutal experiments that left plenty of damage to his psyche.

There's a whole plethora of issues with what happened to Cole. Obviously we have no clue what happened to the other kids (yet) but I have no doubts that Bramon did other extreme things with them.

People confuse me with this honestly even if he knew it was for his own "good" there is no way he as a child would ever just "suck it up" and take all that pain and punishment without begging for it to stop.

I'm not saying it doesn't make sense for him to hate Bramon, nor that it is acceptable to do that to a child (or anyone really) against their will, as i said "there are quite a few valid reasons to critizice HERO", but the superhuman world is dangerous no matter your age or choice, Cole from his own present way of thinking should understand that his "torture" had the purpose to make him stronger, or even be the difference between him being alive or dead, from what Bramon said he had to do that because he was too young and otherwise his body wouldn't resist, also if he worships Ella for the way she acts, she is the one sending people to the most dangerous situations to get stronger, if anything Bramon had him in a controled enviroment were he could stop if in real danger.
Yes it makes sense and is entirely justified that he hates Bramon and HERO but he deludes himself in thinking that it didn't serve a purpose, that it wasn't in his own benefit and that it was just for sake of hurting him.
Edit: Well, the definition of torture is to hurt someone with the intent of extracting information, at least on my country's judicial system, i'm not arguing semantics but hurting somenone with the purpose of making their body stronger and increasing their survival chances doesn't seem like a book example of torture, i think that performing surgery against someones will while not providing anesthesia is a better comparison.

Didn't you get that from all the dialogue in the game that Cole hates Tanos even more?He is with SIN only because of Ella the man literally only cares about is being with Ella and to be with her he knows he needs to be strong that's it as for the torture part it is torture ffs physical and psychological both doing experiments on a kid who wasn't even a teen is torture lol.It doesn't matter what "good" they wanted to do it's still torturing a child and guess what it wouldn't be even that bad if they didn't keep him and the others as lab rats.The kids got zero nurturing there was no adult to give them love or even appreciation.If after all the physical torture he got some love and appreciation he wouldn't be this fucked up.So not only was it physical torture it was mental as well.Cole wouldn't be this fucked up if hero nurtured them not to mention just imagine your life as kid is about every day you just go and feel pain and that's it.It is more likely than not that kid would be fucked up.It doesn't excuse him being POS but it's understandable why he turned out like this.I got zero love for Cole and would kill him if I get the chance but let's not change the facts and act like what happened to him as a kid wasn't torture in both physical and psychological manner.

Yes, everything about Cole hating HERO makes sense, but my answer was about SIN being hypocritical, manipulative and self deluded while critizicing HERO, Cole definitly hates Tanos at least as much as Bramon but SIN as an organization uses the same methods as HERO or even worse, even though the same Cole was preaching about how HERO tortures people while Tanos was doing the exact same thing in SIN and he was very aware of that.
Despite their personal views and feelings both Cole and Shen represent their organization and act as if they weren't doing the same behind the curtains.

 

[JmTrad]

i haven't played through all the game yet but i have to say, i'm getting kinda tired of the S.I.N guys repeating the:
>uhhm actually we're the good ones!!
>H.E.R.O is evil just like us because you killed humans in a fight by accident too see
and bullshit like that (from Shen and the other kids)
i don't know if the author is intentional with all this bullshit or if he wants the player to actually believe it

Daily reminder that S.I.N is Langdon group, not Ella. It's just his pathetic attempt to beat Dexter, so he is just doing PR attacks. Ella wanted to use him, and the kids follow her.
When Ella say that MC will one day join her, she don't mean joining S.I.N.

 

[harem.king]

i haven't played through all the game yet but i have to say, i'm getting kinda tired of the S.I.N guys repeating the:
>uhhm actually we're the good ones!!
>H.E.R.O is evil just like us because you killed humans in a fight by accident too see
and bullshit like that (from Shen and the other kids)
i don't know if the author is intentional with all this bullshit or if he wants the player to actually believe it

Its a bunch of edgy 14 year olds wearing all black who LITERALLY named their organization SIN.
You LITERALLY refer to them ask kids in your own post.
I think they are being represented perfectly.