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Im not entirely sure about Thanos yet, both he and his father are very multi-layered characters. They lack any kind of empathy and are more like robots driven only by logic and science which makes it harder for me to hate them, its more like they disgust me.

.. but they are fucking usefull and maybe necessary for humanitys survival? I would let Amber & Liz beat him up and eat him afterswards i guess.


Something else:

Whats the consensus about Ella's knowlegde about monster/everything? Who teached/told her all this stuff which did lead to her taking action?

At first i thought maybe Thanos (because of the picture) but i dont think thats it, it doesnt feel like Thanos has the knowledge Ella has and after the reaction of the doll it looks like they arent the biggest friends anyway.

Was it the arbiter/voice during evolution? Is she able to communicate with "it" better because of a higher corruption level? It didnt looked like her having profound conversations with it when we saw the school flashback tho, and the arbiter tells the mc only riddles so i doubt it.

A Chosen maybe? Again it doesnt look like it imo, it looks like the chosen and monsters in general started to work for/with Ella after Ella got her knowledge (of monsters/what happens in the future/whatever she tries to achieve). And so far the chosen dont seem like the kind of guys who would teach a young Ella everything lol.

Maybe the one chosen we dont know yet and about whom Eiseth stated he could take on Bernhardt?

My last thought that it was maybe Syla? To me it looks like the MC's power/origin/whatever got restricted at some point in his childhood which made him a normal human, stunning his growth and so on and "hiding" (?) him. My guess is Syla's death/sacrifice/whatever is connected to that.

And at a later point Ella "reactivates" the mc and his monster origin. It seems .. calculated? This kinda made me think about the possiblity of Syla being Ella's mentor. Problem i guess is as Ella is lacking the memory trait she probably isnt able to talk with Syla at the same place MC talked to her in the last updates .. so yeah ..

But who else could it be? My only other idea would be Deus but thats would be completly random and i cant see any reasons for it so far.
I don't think it's Syla. She didn't know about Ella's actions when Valravn told her about them, and she's a bad actress so that was probably genuine. If Syla ever did have contact with Ella, it would have had to have been before Ella started on her current plan.

My best guess is that Ella received the information from the 3rd and 4th Apostles themselves. Valravn's conversation with Syla also implies that Ella's actions are somehow meant to benefit the Apostles, so it makes sense they'd be the ones to tell her what to do. We know that Ella somehow got her lands on liquids derived from the 3rd and 4th at some point, so there was likely interaction with them beyond her initial ascension. Even if there wasn't, and the liquids were just harvested from the corpses of their avatar bodies, Ella drank some of it, so that gives a vector for them to affect her mind and impart knowledge.
 
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Krytax123

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I don't think it's Syla. She didn't know about Ella's actions when Valravn told her about them, and she's a bad actress so that was probably genuine. If Syla ever did have contact with Ella, it would have had to have been before Ella started on her current plan.

My best guess is that Ella received the information from the 3rd and 4th Apostles themselves. Valravn's conversation with Syla also implies that Ella's actions are somehow meant to benefit the Apostles, so it makes sense they'd be the ones to tell her what to do. We know that Ella somehow got her lands on liquids derived from the 3rd and 4th at some point, so there was likely interaction with them beyond her initial ascension. Even if there wasn't, and the liquids were just harvested from the corpses of their avatar bodies, Ella drank some of it, so that gives a vector for them to affect her mind and impart knowledge.
Yeah true, i forgot about that. And additionally i just remembered seemed like (?) Ella had no clue who's helping MC when he made the connection through her in dreamworld.

She would probably have suspected it if she knew about Syla.
 
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Radovid

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The last time I tried it was the Diamond Battle update, and now if I look at the wiki, Liz is dead and Amber is unknown, is Liz really dead?
 

Uriel ☁

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The last time I tried it was the Diamond Battle update, and now if I look at the wiki, Liz is dead and Amber is unknown, is Liz really dead?
Let's just say the last update ended with possibly the most brutal cliffhanger ever.

But yeah, I don't think anybody actually think Liz is actually dead. It'll work out someway.
 

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I believe WW hinted at him being interested in exploring a game with different topics to avoid burning out but not that he'd never return to Superhuman or anything like that
Personally I think that would be a not so great idea. Putting the breaks on like that could really harm the hype. Look at the last parts of AoT. It was edged for so long that the energy just wasn't as strong anymore.
 

catmanHoward

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But yeah, I don't think anybody actually think Liz is actually dead. It'll work out someway.
Even if they are actually dead, the training with Syla we just woke up from includes multiple ways of reviving someone recently dead.
We also helped Nyx enter the dream, so she MIGHT be able to revive people so long as she can find them there instead of just those she's marked.
 
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Gtdead

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not even copium. just chekov's gun. There needs to be a pay off for all the time we spent torturing the twins in order for them to double evolve. can't do that if they're dead.
This is the basis of my theory too.

- Liz and Amber are supposed to be dead but the game has spent a significant amount of time building up not only the relationships between MC and Twins, but also their personality, their everyday lives.

- There are a multitude of ways Twins can be helped, including:
1. Evolution and the Twin link.
2. Their Powers.
3. Nyx's Powers.
4. MC's Powers.
5. Shopkeep's items.
6. A combination of MC's and Deryl's Powers.
7. Whatever unidentified thing MC sensed in the lab.

- The next update is going to be the climax of the Twins arc and the Twins didn't have their moment of glory yet. I doubt that the naming of the Arc is deceptive.

So considering all these, I think their chances of surviving this are significantly higher than the opposite scenario.
 

SquallofNight

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the copium is real.
Na bro, i just trust in the GOAT. The one who was always there for MC, more present than his father, with his deals and traded goods. He who wields the power of CAPITALISM, SHOPKEEP HIMSELF! Neither Ella, HERO, SIN, Mom, Dad nor the Eye; only Shopkeep was always there, delivering his products with a smile. In HIM i trust.
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Na bro, i just trust in the GOAT. The one who was always there for MC, more present than his father, with his deals and traded goods. He who wields the power of CAPITALISM, SHOPKEEP HIMSELF! Neither Ella, HERO, SIN, Mom, Dad nor the Eye; only Shopkeep was always there, delivering his products with a smile. In HIM i trust.
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I do trust that Shopkeep will be able to take his price of some water. I don't know whatever else might happen, but I'm confident he'll get paid.
 

TerminusPrime

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not even copium. just chekov's gun. There needs to be a pay off for all the time we spent torturing the twins in order for them to double evolve. can't do that if they're dead.
The real chekov's gun are the earrings and rings that the shopkeep gave the twins before they were captured. There will be some sort of payoff there that keeps the twins relevant. Especially where it was specifically pointed out that the twins put the earrings on and were wearing them.
 

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Love the game so far! I tried searching for any mentions of this but couldn't find any (sorry if it's already known, new to the site so might of missed something)

I found that in the undercover S.I.N section where you are disguised as Nathan if you choose to stay in the battle royale at the end you gain +3 power and +3 skill. In the after party you are able to attempt to kill Jared (which of course I tried) resulting in Deus pulling you back to warn you not to. When this happens though it doesn't change your stats allowing you to go back through and complete the battle royale again gaining an additional +3 power and +3 skill. Of course after the second run you are not allowed to attempt to kill Jared again meaning this can only be done once for a total stat gain of +6 power and +6 skill.

Just wanted to mention it as I couldn't find this mentioned already and, again to reiterate I love the game so far and look forward to seeing more of the story once it's finished!
 

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Love the game so far! I tried searching for any mentions of this but couldn't find any (sorry if it's already known, new to the site so might of missed something)

I found that in the undercover S.I.N section where you are disguised as Nathan if you choose to stay in the battle royale at the end you gain +3 power and +3 skill. In the after party you are able to attempt to kill Jared (which of course I tried) resulting in Deus pulling you back to warn you not to. When this happens though it doesn't change your stats allowing you to go back through and complete the battle royale again gaining an additional +3 power and +3 skill. Of course after the second run you are not allowed to attempt to kill Jared again meaning this can only be done once for a total stat gain of +6 power and +6 skill.

Just wanted to mention it as I couldn't find this mentioned already and, again to reiterate I love the game so far and look forward to seeing more of the story once it's finished!
Fun fact, the update the infiltration was introduced there was a bug that allowed you to repeat the tournament infinitely. The tournament itself didnt give power back then, but the medicine you found could be injected every time you repeated for infinite power.
 

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Just realized something, during Valravn's path the very first time i played i had a really weird feeling about the words the lord of the dark tells Mc, i had the impression i saw something he said before somewhere.

So after reading his dialogue again i finally remembered where it came from.
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I heard that some people think Emily will become a superhuman from the lord of the dark's line before, and i think it was even before last update.
 
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JmTrad

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Love the game so far! I tried searching for any mentions of this but couldn't find any (sorry if it's already known, new to the site so might of missed something)

I found that in the undercover S.I.N section where you are disguised as Nathan if you choose to stay in the battle royale at the end you gain +3 power and +3 skill. In the after party you are able to attempt to kill Jared (which of course I tried) resulting in Deus pulling you back to warn you not to. When this happens though it doesn't change your stats allowing you to go back through and complete the battle royale again gaining an additional +3 power and +3 skill. Of course after the second run you are not allowed to attempt to kill Jared again meaning this can only be done once for a total stat gain of +6 power and +6 skill.

Just wanted to mention it as I couldn't find this mentioned already and, again to reiterate I love the game so far and look forward to seeing more of the story once it's finished!
Welcome to F95, especially to Superhuman! It was worse when this chapter released, you could keep repeating, lol.

Just realized something, during Valravn's path the very first time i played i had a really weird feeling about the words the lord of the dark tells Mc, i had the impression i saw something he said before somewhere.

So after reading his dialogue again i finally remembered where it came from.
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I heard that some people think Emily will become a superhuman from the lord of the dark's line before, and i think it was even before last update.
In honour of your discovery i will listen the music again

 

TerminusPrime

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Just realized something, during Valravn's path the very first time i played i had a really weird feeling about the words the lord of the dark tells Mc, i had the impression i saw something he said before somewhere.

So after reading his dialogue again i finally remembered where it came from.
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I heard that some people think Emily will become a superhuman from the lord of the dark's line before, and i think it was even before last update.
Ever since the fight with Valravyn I wanted Emily to become Shadow Knight Emily, but that's just cause it would fit her aesthetic, and not because I actually think it will happen.
 
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