she could also said that because Jake should have manifested both trait but didnt,and autority is the more mental oriented trait when power is more about controling energies that's why she didnt care much about him once she didnt have any use for him.
Who knows, perhaps that's the reason. I quite like the idea that Authority can somehow affect objects and not just living things. It fits more to my cosmological model of the game.
Pretty sure his name was Troy not Tony, but ah who cares he's dead anyways.
Shen's power can be explained by strong Memory augmented with Authority. Ella's ritual consisted of making a connection from both points. Same happens to MC - he's being pushed into dream by power with Memory lineage and guided through the process by Syla who exists entirely within memoryscape. Also Shen's ability to manifest some of his illusions physically after 4 evolution is an additional argument for his power being a Memory mix.
I didn't say changing someone's perception on the fly is impossible, but rather strenuous to the point of impracticality.
Why do you say that? Have we seen an example of the mc or someone else with memory powers doing this and straining themselves?
So far we haven't seen any example of memories being taken out completely on the fly as soon as they are made. We've seen Shen forcing his image into Elijah's perception, but judging by how Shen is capable of ordering people into dreams, his power must have Authority component. I suspect that taking out someone's memories with this speed, precision and completeness will be almost impossible for someone stronger than MC and absolutely impractical for targets weaker.
I understand your argument, Lie and Truth are indeed opposite concepts. However, consider also that we are talking about 12 aspects of one God. The others all make sense, but Lie? Is this apostle the lie of God? Would a god lie? In this light, even Illusion is a weak option. Probably the most sensible options would be Imagination and then Dream.
Would a god dream? Imagination is something I could see a god doing but at the same time runs up on "toon force" type powers really quickly.
God maybe wouldn't lie, but his creations definitely will. And God's Lie is what they meet.
Yeah, a God would dream of creation before creating. It's not an alien thought. Still, it's not that strong of an argument, but more so than deception, IMHO obv. With a pantheon of gods, I can see deception being part of a portfolio. But a single god? I'm not so sure.
The creations of Gods sure lie a lot. But remember that each apostle represents an aspect of God (the strength, the will, the shape, the intuition, the age and the space of God). Lie would be the deception of God. Tho', maybe I am too attached to the Abrahamic monotheistic outlook of God, considering that we are talking about a single God, the shaper of the cosmos and beyond, so the connection comes naturally to me.
That way God's Destruction also sounds kinda icky.
Uh why? They are a god they shouldn't need to "dream" of something shouldn't they just be able to "do"? I guess in a game/series focused on combat like this the idea that a god (or any entity) has to actively think about thier power (or dream) are almost always beaten by someone who does it "automatically" (like MC having to think about where to regen from changing to his spine is borderline unkillable and arguably as smart as he is
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The Narrator says that the humans who looked like Eisheth were under Shen's power. It's quite hard to explain this effect with either Authority or Memory. He would need to affect Elijah or Kira in that case.
One important thing to note, since a lot of us are going by the apostolic statements ("I'm Gods X"), Truth is the name of the Apostle.
Please, be real. MC's spine is much smarter than he is. If only he would let it do its work in peace.Uh why? They are a god they shouldn't need to "dream" of something shouldn't they just be able to "do"? I guess in a game/series focused on combat like this the idea that a god (or any entity) has to actively think about thier power (or dream) are almost always beaten by someone who does it "automatically" (like MC having to think about where to regen from changing to his spine is borderline unkillable and arguably as smart as he is
I'll grant that none of those three jump out at me as a clear answer, but I could see lie even from a single God assuming there is anything "past" it (outer gods, the readers/players themselves/ WW himself)
Memory to project Eisheth's visage, Authority to make onlookers believe in it. Shen is capable of projecting himself into lvl5's head while being pretty far away. It's also unknown how he benefit from limits lifted by 4th evolution. Using other people as connection point with memory is possible.
In my opinion, Gtdead is right. It is much more likely that Shen influenced the monsters and humans with his power than Elijah and his companion. This is also because the transformation happens while Elijah is not looking at the subject and it is the way he discovers that he is being deceived. If the power were affecting Elijah's perception directly, there would not be this vulnerability.
Transformation happens outside of Elijah's view because Shen is highly skilled at using his power. Illusions exist in Elijah's perception because how else Shen can be present as an illusion communicating with him otherwise. Also Shen having memory lineage power makes it easier to choose what to show to a certain person. I don't think SIN has that level of intel on HERO's high-ups.
