OnlineRando

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The real question is how high is Michael's, I've been meaning to see his stats for a while now.
I mean, if Oscar as a human had like 80 skill iirc, I doubt it's lower. I don't remember it being stated that Oscar is some world champion or something, he's just a huge dude (though clearly very skilled for some reason), so Michael and Alice should be higher... probably...

In any case, my guess would be like 140 or 150 skill.
 
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Grimnir098

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I mean, if Oscar as a human had like 80 skill iirc, I doubt it's lower. I don't remember it being stated that Oscar is some world champion or something, he's just a huge dude (though clearly very skilled for some reason), so Michael and Alice should be higher... probably...

In any case, my guess would be like 140 or 150 skill.
His character profile says he spent 10 years fighting in the military and was one of the most gifted soldiers of his generation.
 

JmTrad

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I swear to god this has made finding the songs of certain scenes more infuriating and not less, if only because Teknoaxe uses the same progressions like 8 times.
Here is a way to find what music plays in what scene:
1. Unlock console mode with UnRen
2. Go to the scene the music is playing and click Shift+O
3. Use this code: renpy.music.get_playing(channel='music')
4. Search the music name on the file Music Index.xlsx in the game folder.

Where is his collection? We're all o these character profiles posted here?
Here.
 
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God, for having 12 level 5s H.E.R.O sure is fucking useless
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nah, H.E.R.O. misjudged the level of the threat is all. plus they did state that there are multiple level 5 threats or potential threats in the world and those 12 are busy with it. If I remember correctly some are even recuperating/healing. I think the Earth in the game is bigger than ours, like a kind of super earth

it's like in halo, imagine, 700-800 human worlds with maybe roughly the same number of big ass ships, but the aliens have 4000 and counting. The whole thing is a losing game.
 

Grimnir098

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nah, H.E.R.O. misjudged the level of the threat is all. plus they did state that there are multiple level 5 threats or potential threats in the world and those 12 are busy with it. If I remember correctly some are even recuperating/healing. I think the Earth in the game is bigger than ours, like a kind of super earth

it's like in halo, imagine, 700-800 human worlds with maybe roughly the same number of big ass ships, but the aliens have 4000 and counting. The whole thing is a losing game.
More like Bernhardt misjudged the level of the threat. And whoever suggested he send Kira and Elijah.
Bramon told Bernhardt to go personally.
 
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Yeah, the screw-ups in the Eisheth capture mission were pretty much entirely on Bernhardt. He didn't seem to pay it much attention or consider it worth investing resources or effort into. Like, the briefing for it lasted all of a minute before dismissing everyone, and he wasn't even originally planning on giving the MC any backup at all. The man did not care about the mission's success in the slightest.
 

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nah, H.E.R.O. misjudged the level of the threat is all. plus they did state that there are multiple level 5 threats or potential threats in the world and those 12 are busy with it. If I remember correctly some are even recuperating/healing. I think the Earth in the game is bigger than ours, like a kind of super earth

it's like in halo, imagine, 700-800 human worlds with maybe roughly the same number of big ass ships, but the aliens have 4000 and counting. The whole thing is a losing game.
But they have a person who can see the future, right? He couldn't predict the future of this operation after predicting when Eisheth would come? Maybe he can't predict changed futures idk
 

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But they have a person who can see the future, right? He couldn't predict the future of this operation after predicting when Eisheth would come? Maybe he can't predict changed futures idk
From my understanding, Deus predicted when she would come, so HERO went and tried prepare an ambush, while Nez predicted that Eisheth would try to find and take them at all. Thats all info that was provided without who is the best pick to go and how everything would go on a mission. Though, I think Deus knew that the mission would fail, but didn't tell anyone for his own reasons.
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I just doubt that he had no idea at all about it, because it is connected to MC, even if it is not related to him specifically. But maybe I am giving him too much credit after his DeadEnd and TV shenanigans.
 
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shujuku

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But they have a person who can see the future, right? He couldn't predict the future of this operation after predicting when Eisheth would come? Maybe he can't predict changed futures idk
Lochans ability seems to be weird as he can seemingly go into different time periods and thats how he also beats MC in one dead end. However we don't know at what costs he does said time leap.
 

jjtom000

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I assume that depends how her power works. IIRC it was never really described to be anti-life or the likes, but rather negative energy. The name of the power, and her showing when Michael and Tiffany were evolving, makes one think she drains someone's monster power.

If you look at her ability like that, she'd be positively useless against anyone with power relative to or higher than hers, in other words, Bernhardt, Henri, and Malik, possibly even some or all other level 5s.

It could even be argued that Ella was only affected so drastically and/or quickly by Nyx's move because Malik greatly tired her power reserves beforehand, as I remember someone (Malik I think?) saying Ella's invulnerability thing probably used a lot of energy, not to mention Ella practically went through a gauntlet beforehand. Otherwise, it could be argued that Ella just had lower power reserves compared to the average level 5 since she just recently evolved.

Then again, she does have abilities directly related to life (or death rather), such as resurrecting someone, so there may be more to it than that, but we can't quite tell.
Not really, after Nyx killed Ella, Malik himself stated that "if Nyx got you, you are got", implying Nyx's instant death ability is basically absolute and cannot be negated by simple power level difference even for the trio. However, from what Nyx said when she used it, it looks like the ability while powerful, has limited accuracy(and likely limited range), so the trio should be able to easily evade it/blitz her before she uses the ability(remember Bern is literally faster than a monster that can teleport) or engage in range combat to avoid the attack, so they will still stomp her in a fight. But if they just stand there and face-tank it? They likely won't survive.
 
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jjtom000

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Literally authority. Absurdly broken. Anyone having relation to the 1st apostle are overpowered. Like Charlie for example.
Back to Jake, as a lvl 1 can already influence a lvl 4, the spike lady, if I recall correctly, albeit by only making small suggestions, still though, that's a feat in itself. Only a handful can resist it, and at lvl 2 he can take over a damn city, the utility and range of its might is mind boggling.

So yes, if Jake reached lvl 5, he would be annoying to deal with. But will MC lose???
Lexi was level 5 when Jake did that. She and Clark evolved using the serum in the fight against Ella. So even more impressive.
 
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jjtom000

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I'm curious about just how broken Jake would be like if he ever reach level 5. Could be absurdly broken like being able to command things not to exist ala Mum forgetting attacks or hell the opposite where he commands things to exist could be possible. + all his MC BS on everyone other than level 5s.
I recall Ella saying that his power is not supposed to be only able to affect living things and it turns out that way only because of Jake's mentality. So his power should be able to affect objects even at lv1 if the host is not such a pussy.
 
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