TheShelly

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Guys lets get our Mid Piece hat theory on. To whom does the Clown owe his powers from? Is it the 9th apostle? Is it the apostle daddy Order, or something else we are unsure about. GET YOUR THEORIES WILD BOYS! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
Well, given that he can manipulate reality at will, naturally dream-delves every time he sleeps and is referred to being an inheritor of a divine power, I would assume he is a combination of Truth and Fantasy, thus being a Paradox-spawn. Truth being used to manipulate tangible reality, and Fantasy beign used to manipulate the immaterial world.
 
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Well, given that he can manipulate reality at will, naturally dream-delves every time he sleeps and is referred to being an inheritor of a divine power, I would assume he is a combination of Truth and Fantasy, thus being a Paradox-spawn. Truth being used to manipulate tangible reality, and Fantasy beign used to manipulate the immaterial world.
Also, his supernatural energy is magenta and lime green, which are the colors of the Truth and the Fantasy's avatars. Eisheth and Aglaecwif have those colors for their respective energies, too. It doesn't necessarily mean something, Apostle colors don't always match their spawn, but it's a common trend and adds support to the idea that Henri has Paradox.
 

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Also, his supernatural energy is magenta and lime green, which are the colors of the Truth and the Fantasy's avatars. Eisheth and Aglaecwif have those colors for their respective energies, too. It doesn't necessarily mean something, Apostle colors don't always match their spawn, but it's a common trend and adds support to the idea that Henri has Paradox.
Furthermore, the Origin-MC describes Henri as "Ascendant, yet still unborn". Being "born" is also what the Eye calls his takeover of the MC.
 
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is all the futa/trans/trap stuff from mc changing his body? or are there characters for these criteria of content?
I think there are three characters that the tags apply to. The first is the MC with their shapeshifting, that's where the futa/trans tag comes. The player can choose to have the MC adopt those forms in various scenes, usually a "female MC" appearance (which can also be futa in some scenes, at the player's choice) but occasionally imitating an existing woman as part of a deception.

The second is Demi, a side character who is genderfluid and whose sex is player determinant. Whichever the player chooses the MC to assume is Demi's sex upon first meeting them, that's what they are. Their appearance otherwise doesn't change, meaning that the trap tag could be applied to a Demi with a penis.

Thirdly, there's a very minor character named Nikki that you can help disguise themselves to escape prison by turning them into a woman. They were also an effeminate "prison bitch" before then, making them arguably the trap tag depending on your beliefs about situational sexuality.
 

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Does anyone else hear Brendon Small's voice when reading the MC's lines or is it just me? Lol
 
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The second is Demi, a side character who is genderfluid and whose sex is player determinant. Whichever the player chooses the MC to assume is Demi's sex upon first meeting them, that's what they are. Their appearance otherwise doesn't change, meaning that the trap tag could be applied to a Demi with a penis.
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Does anyone else hear Brendon Small's voice when reading the MC's voice or is it just me? Lol
In my imagination MC voice is the same as teknoaxe singing Street Walk Manifesto
 

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The second is Demi, a side character who is genderfluid and whose sex is player determinant. Whichever the player chooses the MC to assume is Demi's sex upon first meeting them, that's what they are. Their appearance otherwise doesn't change, meaning that the trap tag could be applied to a Demi with a penis.
I don't recall Demi saying she was genderfluid, and I'm not sure I think that the player being able to choose their gender makes them genderfluid. Was this revealed in a WW stream? Seems like a lot of stuff is only discussed there.
 

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I don't recall Demi saying she was genderfluid, and I'm not sure I think that the player being able to choose their gender makes them genderfluid. Was this revealed in a WW stream? Seems like a lot of stuff is only discussed there.
Demi's actions in-game do pretty much line up with that interpretation. Due to Demi's power manipulating visual perception their gender literally is whatever the person viewing them feels like. Demi themselves is entirely willing to go along with it regardless of what their actual physical sex is, having no actual preferred pronouns and a love of trolling.
 
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I don't recall Demi saying she was genderfluid, and I'm not sure I think that the player being able to choose their gender makes them genderfluid. Was this revealed in a WW stream? Seems like a lot of stuff is only discussed there.
I'm inferring from their behavior. Demi never explicitly says that they're genderfluid. But in early scenes they're constantly swapping what gender they tell people they are, and Mia and Jake say that Demi has been doing that for as long as they've known them. "Genderfluid" might not be the best word for it, saying that they're agender might be more accurate since they don't mind which gender they're referred to as, but I think there's some element of it to their identity.
 
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I have some questions, FYI sub Day 15 player.
Why can't I turn down Alice when she tells me to steal? Did I pick some hidden choice?
Why does MC act so nice to Ella even though I picked every "choice" to not like her or see her antagonistically? MC says a line or to after the decision but throughout the game when she comes up MC acts favourably towards her, like she didn't try to drug, kill or take away your humanity and tried doing the same to your friends?
 
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TheShelly

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I have some questions, FYI sub Day 15 player.
Why can't I turn down Alice when she tells me to steal? Did I pick some hidden choice?
Why does MC act so nice to Ella even though I picked every "choice" to not like her or see her antagonistically? MC says a line or to after the decision but throughout the game when she comes up MC acts favourably towards her, like she didn't try to drug, kill or take away your humanity and tried doing the same to your friends?
You cant turn down Alice because it was chosen in an early Patreon poll. You humor Ella's antics because realistically you cant do shit about her. She is just way too strong in comparison to you, so why waste energy on hating her?
 

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I have some questions, FYI sub Day 15 player.
Why can't I turn down Alice when she tells me to steal? Did I pick some hidden choice?
Why does MC act so nice to Ella even though I picked every "choice" to not like her or see her antagonistically? MC says a line or to after the decision but throughout the game when she comes up MC acts favourably towards her, like she didn't try to drug, kill or take away your humanity and tried doing the same to your friends?
Those are set interactions in the story. You can't alter them much. I think a better way to say it is that those are linear things that can't be diverted. You need to interact with Alice to progress the Mafia side. You also have to be neutral towards Ella and be oblivious to her behavior or else it wouldn't be justified for him to mindlessly run to her at every chance when he's "stuck" and can't progress. Pretty much, she's a forced mentor that some MCs didn't even ask for.

You cant turn down Alice because it was chosen in an early Patreon poll. You humor Ella's antics because realistically you cant do shit about her. She is just way too strong in comparison to you, so why waste energy on hating her?
I disagree. Just because Ella is stronger, that doesn't mean you have to deal with her. It's not even a power thing. Not referring to you, but a lot of people are under the illusion that not wanting to interact with Ella means you want to fight her or something. That's not the case. It's about MC saying one thing and doing the complete opposite towards her like he never said it. That has nothing to do with power. MC is being forced to interact with her and the choices don't matter.
 
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JmTrad

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I have some questions, FYI sub Day 15 player.
Why can't I turn down Alice when she tells me to steal? Did I pick some hidden choice?
Why does MC act so nice to Ella even though I picked every "choice" to not like her or see her antagonistically? MC says a line or to after the decision but throughout the game when she comes up MC acts favourably towards her, like she didn't try to drug, kill or take away your humanity and tried doing the same to your friends?
Are you talking about the small errands she asks you to do for money?
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Notebook broke and you need money to simp to cam girls. Lol.

About Ella, there is a lot what can be said, outside of what people already said she is your only door at the moment to this supernatural stuff.
 

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Those are set interactions in the story. You can't alter them much. I think a better way to say it is that those are linear things that can't be diverted. You need to interact with Alice to progress the Mafia side. You also have to be neutral towards Ella and be oblivious to her behavior or else it wouldn't be justified for him to mindlessly run to her at every chance when he's "stuck" and can't progress. Pretty much, she's a forced mentor that some MCs didn't even ask for.


I disagree. Just because Ella is stronger, that doesn't mean you have to deal with her. It's not even a power thing. Not referring to you, but a lot of people are under the illusion that not wanting to interact with Ella means you want to fight her or something. That's not the case. It's about MC saying one thing and doing the complete opposite towards her like he never said it. That has nothing to do with power. MC is being forced to interact with her and the choices don't matter.
I have some questions, FYI sub Day 15 player.
Why can't I turn down Alice when she tells me to steal? Did I pick some hidden choice?
Why does MC act so nice to Ella even though I picked every "choice" to not like her or see her antagonistically? MC says a line or to after the decision but throughout the game when she comes up MC acts favourably towards her, like she didn't try to drug, kill or take away your humanity and tried doing the same to your friends?
You guys are way too emotional for our MC. He isnt a complete self-insert. If you tend to bitch about "little things" you will be disappointed with his behavior at times as - unlike you - he doesnt give that much of a fuck and just shrugs and keeps pushing forward.

He isnt even really able to dislike/hate cole or tanos thaaat much, less than you seem to dislike ella, and ella's at least crazy in the sheets :ROFLMAO: :whistle:

So yeah, stop bitching and just shrug it off
 
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