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vogelbeest

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Also, does anyone else have a feeling Michael is going to overwhelmingly power-hungry and try to take us out eventually? It seems his desire to become stronger on his terms, by nearly any means is bothersome.
It's not unlikely we will have to fight Michael at some point. But there could be other reasons why that fight happens.
With Charlie around he or you could just be forced or we have to pick sides between Tiffany and Dexter (or Alice).
If it's just that all-out fight he wants it would make sense it would happen honorably when both on 5th evolution.

But he could fall to corruption too, Alice already was ordered to devour the fairy... And for the corruption path it looks like there will not be many people around at the end... (You already ate Danica and Jake and few others by now and must devour Alice and the fairy too, devouring Alice will get Michael involved) (if you are power-hungry you'll get a power-hungry Michael)

Michael is loyal and an experienced honorable fighter, he's one of the people you just want to have backing you, so i hope it's not inevitable... He's been training with you and Alice and Deryl but also Mia, Emily, Liz and Amber... Training the "normies" is just being a good friend... I would hate to fight him if he was just power-hungry... I didn't really care for Jake, he deserved to be devoured, he used his powers on your normal friends.... (funny, the guy with potentially the strongest power does what he does out of fear..)
 

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Yeah despite trying to sleep with everyone, I could honest to God live without Mia. She's kind of always been a pure side character there to be a moral high ground or whatever. There's Demi for petite and unpure, she's still friendly much like Mia, but I feel like she actually knows how to show off unlike Mia who is kind of just there features be damned. Great character! But I suppose not every character has to be sleepable, like I would never in good conscience sleep with Liz& Amber's Mom.
I do wonder if we'll get some Mia content at a later point tho as the MC does get a choice to say that he has interest in her I believe during the beach party (which makes her run away embarrassed) and then later again when Deryl asks if the MC would ever date Mia (I think it was clone Deryl who asks this around the time after Mia gets fixed by Ella).

Feels like Weird is leading us to having her as an option later on (like Claudia) perhaps in an update not too long from now depending on how we dealt with Jake (alive/dead) it might close her out entirely if Jake is dead (even MC comments on the fact if we kill Jake that Mia won't like it).
 
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After the update, i've pretty much had to update my review to a five star and edit some bits in.

As for fighting Micheal, wouldn't surprise me as i'm pretty sure someone warns us of him. I think they say Micheal appears nice and helpful but will cut you down for his own gain. Seeing how he cut out father for mundane reasons makes me think he will have no trouble betraying us.
 

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A conflict with Michael seems inevitable if our MC has any morals, I guess. It would be an excellent fight though. A genius-level fighter vs a fighter who can become anything during a fight.
 

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As for fighting Micheal, wouldn't surprise me as i'm pretty sure someone warns us of him. I think they say Micheal appears nice and helpful but will cut you down for his own gain.
Pretty sure it was Klaus that warned you. Klaus does exactly what he's warning you for with Michael. He betrays Alice for the serum, he and his father backstab Alice family just for power and their own gains... Yet michael always has your back, sure it's for a crime family but it's clear Michael has "honor amongst thieves" something Klaus proofs to lack...
 

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Pretty sure it was Klaus that warned you. Klaus does exactly what he's warning you for with Michael. He betrays Alice for the serum, he and his father backstab Alice family just for power and their own gains... Yet michael always has your back, sure it's for a crime family but it's clear Michael has "honor amongst thieves" something Klaus proofs to lack...
Nah im pretty sure it happens sometime in the H.E.R.O HQ. It was like three sentences so im not sure exactly who said it. But it stuck to me cause I liked Micheal and it seemed weird to me.
 

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Nah im pretty sure it happens sometime in the H.E.R.O HQ. It was like three sentences so im not sure exactly who said it. But it stuck to me cause I liked Micheal and it seemed weird to me.
Maybe Tiffany, dunno, but so far Michael has been nothing but a good friend. He warns you about working for Alice, he's fighting as a normal human against a superhuman together with you and Alice who have powers. He always been loyal to Alice despite the odds. Sure he wants to be the best fighter, but he's no backstabber, he's experienced enough to not tell everything to Deryl during their last fight, but he wasn't proud of keeping some cards to himself. He judged Deryl correctly since Deryl wasn't honorable... He doesn't agree with Tiffany killing her father, but he will back her just because he gave his word... That's clearly an act of an honorable friend, telling it's wrong but still having her back...


pretty sure danica said something like that
Well, that's pretty much the same as Klaus, it's even secondhand information from Klaus most likely... ;)
 

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Somewhat expecting Michael to go off the rails after finding out that evolution via Xande's serum has put a ceiling on his potential
 

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You can only see his true character when there's actually something at stake imo. Micheal is absolutely obsessed with gaining strength. In a situation where its between his crew vs getting stronger, i'm really not sure what he would pick.

The context around the situation and the fact there is no reason for Danica to try to deceive the MC gives it more significance then Klaus. I doubt she'll actually be of significance in the main story or have any significant animosity towards the MC, makes me think it wasn't just fluff dialogue.
 
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It's not unlikely we will have to fight Michael at some point. But there could be other reasons why that fight happens.
With Charlie around he or you could just be forced or we have to pick sides between Tiffany and Dexter (or Alice).
If it's just that all-out fight he wants it would make sense it would happen honorably when both on 5th evolution.

But he could fall to corruption too, Alice already was ordered to devour the fairy... And for the corruption path it looks like there will not be many people around at the end... (You already ate Danica and Jake and few others by now and must devour Alice and the fairy too, devouring Alice will get Michael involved) (if you are power-hungry you'll get a power-hungry Michael)

Michael is loyal and an experienced honorable fighter, he's one of the people you just want to have backing you, so i hope it's not inevitable... He's been training with you and Alice and Deryl but also Mia, Emily, Liz and Amber... Training the "normies" is just being a good friend... I would hate to fight him if he was just power-hungry... I didn't really care for Jake, he deserved to be devoured, he used his powers on your normal friends.... (funny, the guy with potentially the strongest power does what he does out of fear..)
That's cope. Ain't no way on god's green earth Michael, the guy so loyal he fights Superhumans for you and trains up your friends in his spare time; is going to betray us for "power".

That being said; Deryl, the least likely guy to fight us did it due to mind control but then...because he wanted to? I'm honestly still confused and pissed about Deryl's whole story line, as it seemed that his mind control was broken after we beat him before he turned into a monster. I guess his justification was becoming the new Rubix Cube or whatever? Who knows, given the chance I'd kill em.

Besides the point anyways, unless Michael is similarly controlled to fight us, he won't of his own volition. Michael was curious about how much power he could obtain, but his end goal has always been to live in "the fight" and for "the fight". If he wanted to be the strongest thing on the planet he would've overdosed on Daddy's drugs long ago, or killed him for more.

He also wouldn't be stupid enough to think he could ever reach the top any time soon given how ridiculously powerful the other mountains he'd have to go up against are. Nicolette, Nyx, Malik, Bernhardt, or god FORBID Deus.

But for arguments sake, let's say he IS at that level, would he like to have a SERIOUS duel with us to see who's stronger? Sure. Would he try to kill us to get his way? Absolutely not. He's always been respectful and loyal to those in his circle. He just so happens to have a sort of "berserk" state when he's in the thick of a fight, but notice in the beginning and outside of a fight he is always calm and collected. Shit he even asks our advice if it's worth becoming a Superhuman at first.




Conclusion:

-He would never betray us in his right mind, end of story.
-If he was mind controlled sure.
-If he wanted to have a serious 1 on 1 (Valravn level honor duel).
-He's in his "berserk" state that all of you seem to confuse as his constant mindset. He has only be shown to be power hungry like a maniac when is was in the thick of a life or death fight, you would say some crazy shit too in that scenario.
 
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I prefer petite women over busty ones. I wouldn't mind if our MC gets a sex scene with Mia.

That being said, she's the character that I'm least interested sexually. So, I wouldn't be too bothered if we don't have any sex scenes with her either.
Meh she cool but i find her cute and funny. not a sexual predator like demi XD i was like wut when she jumped us the club,then in the beach men demi kind of rape us or is just i am weak to pushy women......(shut up)
 

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That's cope. Ain't no way on god's green earth Michael, the guy so loyal he fights Superhumans for you and trains up your friends in his spare time; is going to betray us for "power".

That being said; Deryl, the least likely guy to fight us did it due to mind control but then...because he wanted to? I'm honestly still confused and pissed about Deryl's whole story line, as it seemed that his mind control was broken after we beat him before he turned into a monster. I guess his justification was becoming the new Rubix Cube or whatever? Who knows, given the chance I'd kill em.

Besides the point anyways, unless Michael is similarly controlled to fight us, he won't of his own volition. Michael was curious about how much power he could obtain, but his end goal has always been to live in "the fight" and for "the fight". If he wanted to be the strongest thing on the planet he would've overdosed on Daddy's drugs long ago, or killed him for more.

He also wouldn't be stupid enough to think he could ever reach the top any time soon given how ridiculously powerful the other mountains he'd have to go up against are. Nicolette, Nyx, Malik, Bernhardt, or god FORBID Deus.

But for arguments sake, let's say he IS at that level, would he like to have a SERIOUS duel with us to see who's stronger? Sure. Would he try to kill us to get his way? Absolutely not. He's always been respectful and loyal to those in his circle. He just so happens to have a sort of "berserk" state when he's in the thick of a fight, but notice in the beginning and outside of a fight he is always calm and collected. Shit he even ask our advice if it's worth becoming a Superhuman at first.
Similarly to how a lot of other characters in this game have ulterior motives or whatever other fuckery they have going on. I can see the point of Michael going full power hungry mode. Michael isn't too much of a conniving person and is quite blunt about what he wants so he doesn't really have the whole ulterior motive vibe going on but at the same time we shouldn't ignore the fact this man is clearly power hungry and has demonstrated as such throughout the time we've seen him.

If granted unimaginable power even the strongest of wills could bend and Michael is no exception to this. Michael thus far has been nothing more than a true friend and has had our backs through thick and thin, training us and asking for advice yes.

But as we seen with Deryl (despite what caused him to fight against us) he still fought us despite him breaking the control (midway through the fight I believe) so friendship in this game doesn't mean much.

So, personally I can see Weird tossing in an arc where Michael is capped out due to the serum (if thats possible) and is looking for other means for power and if he has to go against his own allies I can see that happening as the one consistent thing about our lovable friend Michael is his hunger for more strength I can most definitely see him being conflicted about this as well.

If you recall the interactions between the MC and jake (also the fight) Jake is conflicted if the MC has been kind to him throughout the game up to that point. Mind you Jake's situation is different from Michael or Deryl but yeah I can totally see this being a thing for whatever reason.

Michael would be put in a similar situation. He, MC, and Alice are friends but he wants to get stronger and I wonder if friendship is more important than strength to him. The flashbacks and how he has behaved in regards to power imo leans him in the strength is more important camp but similarly one could argue the friendship camp as well.
 
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The context around the situation and the fact there is no reason for Danica to try to deceive the MC gives it more significance then Klaus. I doubt she'll actually be of significance in the main story or have any significant animosity towards the MC, makes me think it wasn't just fluff dialogue.
Her significance to the story is greater than her appearances. On the corruption path she will be devoured and only appears in a few dreams. She's also mentioned by the eye as the crossed assassin. We also see the M-65 Gestas monster in one of our dreams. She might be needed as ally for the endgame. As for her reasons to warn you? She's out of friends, basically a prisoner at HERO and you have influence beyond any other person she can talk to as more or less an equal, you might be her way out... She has to offer something to get some goodwill from you. ;)
 

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Similarly to how a lot of other characters in this game have ulterior motives or whatever other fuckery they have going on. I can see the point of Michael going full power hungry mode.

If granted unimaginable power even the strongest of wills could bend and Michael is no exception to this. Michael thus far has been nothing more than a true friend and has had our backs through thick and thin, training us and asking for advice yes.

But as we seen with Deryl (despite what caused him to fight against us) he still fought us despite him breaking the control (midway through the fight I believe) so friendship in this game doesn't mean much.

So, personally I can see Weird tossing in an arc where Michael is capped out due to the serum (if thats possible) and is looking for other means for power and if he has to go against his own allies I can see that happening as the one consistent thing about our lovable friend Michael is his hunger for more strength I can most definitely see him being conflicted about this as well.

If you recall the fight between Jake and MC even Jake is conflicted if the MC has been kind to him throughout the game up to that point. Mind you Jake's situation is different from Michael or Deryl but yeah I can totally see this being a thing for whatever reason.

Michael would be put in a similar situation, he, MC, and Alice are friends but he wants to get stronger and I wonder if friendship is more important than strength to him. The flashbacks and how he has behaved in regards to power imo leans him in the strength is more important camp but similarly one could argue the friendship camp as well.
Again though these are very specific scenarios. In no universe in his right mind everyday Michaelness is he just saying, "You know what? There's a chance to get more power? I just have to kill my friends? I'm in."

He'd have to be controlled, berserk, or protecting someone to have to be forced in a situation that would ever deem fighting us as an enemy.



If we want to talk about power hungry like it's some plague that makes you brain dead the second you show even a small sign of it then look no further to Michael's bestest bud, who I've seen no one say could betray us; Alice.

Alice in that Evolution state was also power hungry, claiming she could do whatever she wanted, are we then going to claim that she too could want to obliterate us off the face of the earth in order to further her contract with H.E.R.O to benefit the Mafia?

And we can't use the excuse of her being nicer than Michael, in fact it's probably the opposite. I mean her confession to us is her literally annihilating entire families in a compound building without any remorse. Inviting us into the Mafia business despite KNOWING how dangerous it is and potentially being able to kill us.

Michael on the other hand warns us about this line of work, multiple times in fact, which is much more than we can say for Alice. Michael also warns of the drug usage to Alice, who doesn't even care about taking an over recommended dosage. Shit, he even does everything in his power to NOT use the drugs THAT MAKE HIM STRONGER when faced against deaths door during the Lightning fight.

A power hungry person is more like Klaus, who went as far as to betray all of his friends in order to gain more, not caring about the potential consequences of an overdose of said power, or any who stand in the way of it.



Michael has shown instances IN A CRAZED STATE where he WANTS more power, probably because during all of those instances he is fighting to STAY ALIVE. Even in i instances he SPECIFICALLY CHOOSES to gain MORE POWER, he realized he couldn't win and wanted to retreat, hence the lightning monster fight, and his sanity not villainy.

I'd wager villain Michael would've been the Michael that stayed with his father. Luckily as we've seen in this update, that is very much not the case. Proving even more so he's not just some power hungry villain who could turn on his friends at any moment.
 
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Mia is top contender for pure romance route. It's hard to tell about Michael, unless we disappoint his expectations enough like his dad did, either by being weak willed or otherwise betraying him I don't really see that character betraying us first. Anything's possible though so who knows.
 

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about Deryl's whole story line, as it seemed that his mind control was broken after we beat him before he turned into a monster.
First he was under mindcontrol by Jake, that was broken by memories of their time together during school. After that he evolved and monsterfied due to a vow to Charlie when he was going to tell MC what Ella's plans are... Not really much time of a clear minded Deryl between all that fighting in that episode...
 

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Her significance to the story is greater than her appearances. On the corruption path she will be devoured and only appears in a few dreams. She's also mentioned by the eye as the crossed assassin. We also see the M-65 Gestas monster in one of our dreams. She might be needed as ally for the endgame. As for her reasons to warn you? She's out of friends, basically a prisoner at HERO and you have influence beyond any other person she can talk to as more or less an equal, you might be her way out... She has to offer something to get some goodwill from you. ;)
Offering a lie doesn't help her. I'm pretty sure this serves my point as her attacking Micheals's character like that will hurt the mc's opinion of her unless what she says ends up being true. And I'm pretty sure she and the mc were flirty/friendly each other in the jail cell already.
 

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Again though these are very specific scenarios. In no universe in his right mind everyday Michaelness is he just saying, "You know what? There's a chance to get more power? I just have to kill my friends? I'm in."

He'd have to be controlled, berserk, or protecting someone to have to be forced in a situation that would ever deem fighting us as an enemy.



If we want to talk about power hungry like it's some plague that makes you brain dead the second you show even a small sign of it then look no further to Michael's bestest bud, who I've seen no one say could betray us; Alice.

Alice in that Evolution state was also power hungry, claiming she could do whatever she wanted, are we then going to claim that she took could want to obliterate us off the face of the earth in order to further her contract with H.E.R.O to benefit the Mafia?

And we can't use the excuse of her being nicer than Michael, in fact it's probably the opposite. I mean her confession to us is her literally annihilating entire families in a compound building without any remorse. Inviting us into the Mafia business despite KNOWING how dangerous it is and potentially being able to kill us.

Michael on the other hand warns us about this line of work, multiple times in fact, which is much more than we can say for Alice. Michael also warns of the drug usage to Alice, who doesn't even care about taking an over recommended dosage. Shit, he even does everything in his power to NOT use the drugs THAT MAKE HIM STRONGER when faced against deaths door during the Lightning fight. A power hungry person is more like Klaus, who went as far as to betray all of his friends in order to gain more, not caring about the potential consequences of an overdose of said power, or any who stand in the way of it.
I'll be honest, I always overlook Alice primarily because I never viewed her as an outright threat like Michael is. Michael being a lack for a better word 'big ol brute' but a lovable one at that.

Alice, well she is more used to her 'mobster' life so I'm not too surprised she had zero qualms with wiping out the families as she stated repeatedly she wanted to put her family back at the top and I personally should of paid more attention to her (she is most def more power hungry than Michael but her reasoning is quite obvious while Michael just wants more power to be stronger).

In regards to him not using the drugs when fighting that lighting monster I do recall him saying he wanted to fight it with his OWN power and not some boost just to see how he could compare (being a human at the time) which he would do again but with powers this time against another monster in the current update.

To put it bluntly, I don't particularly trust Alice or Michael despite Michael being very friendly to us I always somewhat expected him to go against us if he ever truly had to be it for power or if MC and Alice became enemies for some reason (since he and her are very close). Alice, well...honestly? She was boring to me which is why I overlooked her, nothing more than something to fuck and forget about. Her being apart of the mob was only a bonus for the MC as additional manpower for his power base in the future (at least in my playthroughs).
 
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Offering a lie doesn't help her. I'm pretty sure this serves my point as her attacking Micheals's character like that will hurt the mc's opinion of her unless what she says ends up being true. And I'm pretty sure she and the mc were flirty/friendly each other in the jail cell already.
I'm more of the opinion that she's spreading, not necessarily false information, but information she believes to be true because she's seen/heard something, but her personal experience isn't the whole story or something like that. I think it's a red herring, but seeing as how we don't have the full story either it could very well be completely true.
 
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