VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[blaze67]

My character's hero name is Dusk. It just came to mind when I saw his suit.

Also his human name is Jack Black. (Yes I do imagine Tenacious D getting wraped up in this nonsense.)

 

[adanu]

Mine will always and forever be "Not [characters regular name]" i feel like that emphasizes his intelligence

The MC is actually quite smart by all indicators, he's just generally lazy. He only comes into his own when he gets his powers and applies himself to perfection with them.

Very much a case of 'I don't know what to do with my life' right up until he meets Ella.

 

[markel1000]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

Venom hes basically a walking symbiote.

 

[markel1000]

The MC is actually quite smart by all indicators, he's just generally lazy. He only comes into his own when he gets his powers and applies himself to perfection with them.

Very much a case of 'I don't know what to do with my life' right up until he meets Ella.

True he actually go out of his way to do shit i love how his mentality shifted once he got powers

 

[TheShelly]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

Typhon, for I will become the King of Monsters.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

Typhon, for I will become the King of Monsters.

some people just know exactly what they want out of life

 

[IHC]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

mine is Shadow because it sounds cool (not because he's bla-) and it's quite funny how my name is the same as a dog.

 

[Simpgor]

The MC is actually quite smart by all indicators, he's just generally lazy. He only comes into his own when he gets his powers and applies himself to perfection with them.

Very much a case of 'I don't know what to do with my life' right up until he meets Ella.

I'd say he has a good "fight" IQ but no he's not quite smart. He has also "not applied himself to perfection" in terms of his powers as there are others who have progressed just as or faster than him in terms of growth with their powers such as met (or any twins, or the superhuman "exception" who got to level 5 in a month) so would they be applying themselves beyond perfection?

Every one of MCs high school friends think it's werid that MC is going to R&X, MC openly admits it's only because of his daddy (blackmail), he falls asleep in class and has been doing so for YEARS, and then you have all the examples of stupidity in game like him 100% convinced amber was a camgirl because "Blue fingernails", most of the "smart" (beating valravn honorably, not getting caught in sin infiltration etc) are player choice dependent and shouldn't be attributed to every single MC (like corruption)

Edit: Also without stupid dumb luck (syla being MC mom while also being connected to an apostle that can help you train while drugged up) MC is missing 1/3rd to 1/4th of his power (or whatever 120/your power is) that really doesn't seem like he's getting all his power through "him applying himself"

 

[XeroZero000]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

I suck at naming so I named him Alex Mercer and Black Morph.

 

[-Maniackanime-]

I'd say he has a good "fight" IQ but no he's not quite smart. He has also "not applied himself to perfection" in terms of his powers as there are others who have progressed just as or faster than him in terms of growth with their powers such as met (or any twins, or the superhuman "exception" who got to level 5 in a month) so would they be applying themselves beyond perfection?

Every one of MCs high school friends think it's werid that MC is going to R&X, MC openly admits it's only because of his daddy (blackmail), he falls asleep in class and has been doing so for YEARS, and then you have all the examples of stupidity in game like him 100% convinced amber was a camgirl because "Blue fingernails", most of the "smart" (beating valravn honorably, not getting caught in sin infiltration etc) are player choice dependent and shouldn't be attributed to every single MC (like corruption)

Edit: Also without stupid dumb luck (syla being MC mom while also being connected to an apostle that can help you train while drugged up) MC is missing 1/3rd to 1/4th of his power (or whatever 120/your power is) that really doesn't seem like he's getting all his power through "him applying himself"

My dude really explained how dumb MC is, it's quite admirable as it is annoying, how you talks down to our MC but eh ok.

 

[Dreamer44]

Intelligence manifests in many ways.

The MC is not academically smart. And his dumber moments are sometimes for comedy

 

[Simpgor]

My dude really explained how dumb MC is, it's quite admirable as it is annoying, how you talks down to our MC but eh ok.

The thing is "our" MC are not the same? Anything that is directly tied to a choice cant be said to "be a trait for MC" if choosing the other option results in something else.

Some examples:

MC for you might hate his dad
MC for you might have done liz ntr
MC for you might kill and eat everyone you can

There are also things in game that are presented as choices where you can still glean "canon" stuff about MC from like the scene at the bonfire, we are clearly shown there that he values his friends over the faceless people the choice is just how much more he values them. I never said MC is not applying himself to his powers just saying that he objectively is not doing it "to perfection" because there are examples (even excluding outliers) of people getting just as far or further with their powers than MC has and they did not have 120 power given to them in their sleep? The only real cost being him getting a literally splitting headache but since he is a shapeshifter he is fine literally within a minute,....... tbh Langdon was right about MC


Just for fun please keep in mind any variables reliant on power during the cole fight and if you would fail any of them after subtracting the dream training points then mc is reliant on dumb luck at least in part to beat cole not his hard work....

 

[OnlineRando]

I'd say he has a good "fight" IQ but no he's not quite smart. He has also "not applied himself to perfection" in terms of his powers as there are others who have progressed just as or faster than him in terms of growth with their powers such as met (or any twins, or the superhuman "exception" who got to level 5 in a month) so would they be applying themselves beyond perfection?

Every one of MCs high school friends think it's werid that MC is going to R&X, MC openly admits it's only because of his daddy (blackmail), he falls asleep in class and has been doing so for YEARS, and then you have all the examples of stupidity in game like him 100% convinced amber was a camgirl because "Blue fingernails", most of the "smart" (beating valravn honorably, not getting caught in sin infiltration etc) are player choice dependent and shouldn't be attributed to every single MC (like corruption)

Edit: Also without stupid dumb luck (syla being MC mom while also being connected to an apostle that can help you train while drugged up) MC is missing 1/3rd to 1/4th of his power (or whatever 120/your power is) that really doesn't seem like he's getting all his power through "him applying himself"

Not only was MC literally called smart in-game several times, but Met is the only other superhuman who has had his power for a similar amount of time and reached a similar level of power, though that is not to say he is stronger than MC, he is just a perfect counter to him. Twins are literally cheaters; if MC could evolve like twins, he would be at level five right now, it's not right to compare twins to regular superhumans. And the exception (Henri) said he evolved multiple times in a row, which is not how that usually works, and as far as we know has nothing to do with how the superhuman applied themselves, so calling that luck is pretty fair.

I'm not saying MC is Deryl levels of smart, but cmon, he is by no means stupid. He does not apply himself perfectly, but then again no one does.

 

[Simpgor]

Not only was MC literally called smart in-game several times, but Met is the only other superhuman who has had his power for a similar amount of time and reached a similar level of power, though that is not to say he is stronger than MC, he is just a perfect counter to him. Twins are literally cheaters; if MC could evolve like twins, he would be at level five right now, it's not right to compare twins to regular superhumans. And the exception (Henri) said he evolved multiple times in a row, which is not how that usually works, and as far as we know has nothing to do with how the superhuman applied themselves, so calling that luck is pretty fair.

I'm not saying MC is Deryl levels of smart, but cmon, he is by no means stupid. He does not apply himself perfectly, but then again no one does.

And MCs intelligence is called into question multiple times as well, can you name a few examples of times MC is called smart that aren't reliant on a choice? I'm not doubting you I just can't recall them as easily as his dumbbrain moments.

I agree that MC does apply himself with his powers, it's Canon that he trains quite a bit, and that he is very adaptive with his powers however the post I quoted said:

"He only comes into his own when he gets his powers and applies himself to perfection with them."

Even a single example that is beyond him (met) objectively shows that MC is not doing it perfectly unless Met is doing it more perfectly or that met is reliant on more luck than the MC which given met/micheal upbrining i find extremely hard to believe, and we know that MC has to advantage of one of his parents being a literal child of an apostle another advantage that Met does not have.

 

[Gtdead]

I generally disagree with all the ideas that MC is dumb. Even if he is saying dumb things at time and doesn't have a mind for academics, he is quick on the uptake and he has strokes of genius.
In all the flashbacks to his earlier years he is very sharp. The amount of self reflection is very uncharacteristic of his age and he is very savvy. He also has very good control of his emotions and knows how to survive on his own. If I had to rate him only as a kid, I'd even call him a genius. ( I also fully relate with his ability to sleep in class and get "good" grades. I was also a long haired class sleeper with good grades ^^ )

As far as post-infection intelligence is concerned:
1. Despite having 0 combat experience, he quickly adapted to the challenges without much time to prepare.
2. He is very good at applying his powers in out of combat stuff, like playing poker.
3. He managed to keep his identity hidden despite being exposed to so much publicity, as a direct result of his preparation.
4. His approach to fighting Jake was genius and he went into it with the disadvantage of not knowing the extend of his powers while Jake knew about him both from Ella and all the videos of his superhero persona.
5. His mantis punch which was catalytic against Valravn was the result of tinkering and engineering. He adapted foreign physiology to his own in a way that it's not just effective but absolutely fearsome to face.

Despite how "simple" MC may seem at times, his way of fighting is complex and he employs multiple tactics, making him a very difficult enemy to face even without the regeneration. It's technical and precise, even if he has to rely on his regeneration to overcome his lack of experience. A simple guy would just build a big fist. MC's approach was far more methodical.

 

[Sayajin2205]

I generally disagree with all the ideas that MC is dumb. Even if he is saying dumb things at time and doesn't have a mind for academics, he is quick on the uptake and he has strokes of genius.
In all the flashbacks to his earlier years he is very sharp. The amount of self reflection is very uncharacteristic of his age and he is very savvy. He also has very good control of his emotions and knows how to survive on his own. If I had to rate him only as a kid, I'd even call him a genius. ( I also fully relate with his ability to sleep in class and get "good" grades. I was also a long haired class sleeper with good grades ^^ )

As far as post-infection intelligence is concerned:
1. Despite having 0 combat experience, he quickly adapted to the challenges without much time to prepare.
2. He is very good at applying his powers in out of combat stuff, like playing poker.
3. He managed to keep his identity hidden despite being exposed to so much publicity, as a direct result of his preparation.
4. His approach to fighting Jake was genius and he went into it with the disadvantage of not knowing the extend of his powers while Jake knew about him both from Ella and all the videos of his superhero persona.
5. His mantis punch which was catalytic against Valravn was the result of tinkering and engineering. He adapted foreign physiology to his own in a way that it's not just effective but absolutely fearsome to face.

Despite how "simple" MC may seem at times, his way of fighting is complex and he employs multiple tactics, making him a very difficult enemy to face even without the regeneration. It's technical and precise, even if he has to rely on his regeneration to overcome his lack of experience. A simple guy would just build a big fist. MC's approach was far more methodical.

Agree with everything but wasn't mc trained by his dad during his younger years.Mayhe you were only talking about real life combat rather than sparring and training.

 

[Gtdead]

Agree with everything but wasn't mc trained by his dad during his younger years.Mayhe you were only talking about real life combat rather than sparring and training.

He supposedly had some martial arts training but according to him it wasn't that big of a deal. And going by his performance against kid Deryl, I'd say that this is accurate. It's also the fact that he never does anything martial-artsy, at least not before training with Michael.

 

[Simpgor]

I generally disagree with all the ideas that MC is dumb. Even if he is saying dumb things at time and doesn't have a mind for academics, he is quick on the uptake and he has strokes of genius.
In all the flashbacks to his earlier years he is very sharp. The amount of self reflection is very uncharacteristic of his age and he is very savvy. He also has very good control of his emotions and knows how to survive on his own. If I had to rate him only as a kid, I'd even call him a genius. ( I also fully relate with his ability to sleep in class and get "good" grades. I was also a long haired class sleeper with good grades ^^ )

As far as post-infection intelligence is concerned:
1. Despite having 0 combat experience, he quickly adapted to the challenges without much time to prepare.
2. He is very good at applying his powers in out of combat stuff, like playing poker.
3. He managed to keep his identity hidden despite being exposed to so much publicity, as a direct result of his preparation.
4. His approach to fighting Jake was genius and he went into it with the disadvantage of not knowing the extend of his powers while Jake knew about him both from Ella and all the videos of his superhero persona.
5. His mantis punch which was catalytic against Valravn was the result of tinkering and engineering. He adapted foreign physiology to his own in a way that it's not just effective but absolutely fearsome to face.

Despite how "simple" MC may seem at times, his way of fighting is complex and he employs multiple tactics, making him a very difficult enemy to face even without the regeneration. It's technical and precise, even if he has to rely on his regeneration to overcome his lack of experience. A simple guy would just build a big fist. MC's approach was far more methodical.

Didn't MCs teacher tell syla that MCs grades weren't as high as they could be then went on to blame her? I always read that as a more C average type of thing rather than A/B (which I would call "good grades") Liz is more of the "kid genius" who can "can sleep in class and then get good grades while having long(ish) hair" imo


MC also doesn't seem like him having "less than good grades" in college is a new thing he is dealing with either which furthers the idea he is used to mediocre grades but that could also be him just realizing that monsters>grades.

Mc playing poker (or cheating better than alice) is reliant on player choices so you can't say MC is always that good with his powers early on

His preparation for hiding his identity are covering his face with armor (arguably he needs it just for protection not hiding identity), having that mask slightly muffle his voice (liz figures that shit out fast tho), he doesn't even have a hero name until deryl says "Yeah what's your HERO name" really none of the stuff was even made to protect his identity (other than name which is made up on the spot) it all just "happened" to protect it.

I agree that the mantis punch is one of the best arguments for his intelligence but again that's directly realted to combat and without his particular infection his learning style of "bang head against wall until it works" the mantis punch would have taken much much longer to train

Much like Micheal MC has good "fight IQ" but is lacking in other ( arguably more than they are proficient in) intelligences. For all his knowledge/experience Micheal is socially dumb af (interrupting mc/emily, having to be told that him/liz/amber are friends).

 

[OnlineRando]

And MCs intelligence is called into question multiple times as well, can you name a few examples of times MC is called smart that aren't reliant on a choice? I'm not doubting you I just can't recall them as easily as his dumbbrain moments.

I agree that MC does apply himself with his powers, it's Canon that he trains quite a bit, and that he is very adaptive with his powers however the post I quoted said:

"He only comes into his own when he gets his powers and applies himself to perfection with them."

Even a single example that is beyond him (met) objectively shows that MC is not doing it perfectly unless Met is doing it more perfectly or that met is reliant on more luck than the MC which given met/micheal upbrining i find extremely hard to believe, and we know that MC has to advantage of one of his parents being a literal child of an apostle another advantage that Met does not have.

Not about to replay the whole early game to confirm but I'm pretty sure Ella called MC a fast learner, and Deryl and Liz said he'd have great grades if he studied more, not to mention his grades in middle and high school were apparently good even though he always slept in class. Besides, I'm pretty sure Deryl is pretty reliable when it comes to intelligence.

As for Met, he hasn't necessarily been applying himself better than MC. In fact, MC and Met are pretty similar power-wise: they both got their powers at a very similar time, and they are both level three. The only thing separating them is MC's established weakness to lightning and electricity which makes any fight between them unfair, regardless of whether Met was level three or level one. The only thing that can be specifically argued he's better at than MC is fighting skill, as he was trained from childhood in a similar way to Micheal, so it would make sense if he's more skilled, but he also had more time to train.

 

[Grimnir098]

I'd say he has a good "fight" IQ but no he's not quite smart. He has also "not applied himself to perfection" in terms of his powers as there are others who have progressed just as or faster than him in terms of growth with their powers such as met (or any twins, or the superhuman "exception" who got to level 5 in a month) so would they be applying themselves beyond perfection?

Every one of MCs high school friends think it's werid that MC is going to R&X, MC openly admits it's only because of his daddy (blackmail), he falls asleep in class and has been doing so for YEARS, and then you have all the examples of stupidity in game like him 100% convinced amber was a camgirl because "Blue fingernails", most of the "smart" (beating valravn honorably, not getting caught in sin infiltration etc) are player choice dependent and shouldn't be attributed to every single MC (like corruption)

Edit: Also without stupid dumb luck (syla being MC mom while also being connected to an apostle that can help you train while drugged up) MC is missing 1/3rd to 1/4th of his power (or whatever 120/your power is) that really doesn't seem like he's getting all his power through "him applying himself"

1. No one who has good fight IQ is stupid. You need to be smart to understand fighting well.
2. All your examples of superhumans superior to him make no sense:
- There's no reason to think Met is superior to him. They've both delved pretty deep into their powers and I don't think it's obvious who would win in a fight if MC wasn't particularly weak to lightning.
- The twins reached level 3 through a combination of their twin connection and an evolution serum. Nothing about their accomplishments indicate above-average intelligence, and anyway they got destroyed by the MC even though they double-teamed him and reached level 3 not that long after him.
- Evolving doesn't mean you're smart. It just happens as a result of some form of pressure. Henri surviving and not completely turning into a monster as a result of his rapid evolutions might say something, but there's nothing that says MC couldn't do the same. Even if what you're implying was true, though, Henri is literally the only example of this. That would be like saying someone isn't intelligent because they didn't come up with the Theory of Relativity.
3. Not sure how falling asleep in class indicates a lack of intelligence. If anything, the fact that the MC could graduate despite not even paying attention in class means he's probably at least above-average.
4. Him thinking Amber was the camgirl is not emblematic of low intelligence though? Smart people say and do dumb shit all the fucking time.

I think the problem here is that you just don't have a good understanding of what intelligence actually is.