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When its done, when its done, when its done, when its done.
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It is worth noting that she was exactly the same age as them
also late teens, not children
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And i hope stays that way the eggplant titty ladies can stay on fenoxo games
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Early teens. It happened during Middle School to around early highschool. That's between the ages of 14 to 16. Late teens is 18 to 19. So yes, they're children.
Edit: looking at the scene again, Ella was 14 and it happened during graduation day so yes, she potentially killed 13 and 14 year olds. I don't know about where you live but 13 and 14 is not late teens at all.
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No, 14 to 16 are not "children". they are underage, that is not the same thing.Early teens. It happened during Middle School to around early highschool. That's between the ages of 14 to 16. Late teens is 18 to 19. So yes, they're children.
If you look it up in the dictionary. the traditional definition for a child is someone between the ages of infancy and puberty (which is 12 year old).
There is an alternative more recent definition of "someone under the age of majority". this definition is stupid and few people use it.
Also age of majority varies by country between the ages of 15 and 21.
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and can vary even further by religion. example in judaism the age of majority is 13
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Age of majority is extreme arbitrary. And few people would call someone who is 20 years and 11 months old a "child" just because he is under the age of majority in his country.
So... childhood ends at 12. at which point you are an adolescent
I remembered it as highschool instead of middle schools. so age 18ish. Hence I said late teens.
if it was middle school, then 14 year old ella killed 14 year old classmates.
When you call someone a child murderer, it implies they are an adult. It is a bad faith argument to omit the fact that they are literally the same age.
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None of this changes that Ella got a group of 13 to 14 year olds killed. It doesn't matter that Ella was also that age. The point was she got them killed. She knew they were going to die and made sure Christie wasn't there when it happened.
As for this age debate, I'm not interested in going any further into it. It doesn't change the main point of my post, that she did something really fucked up. If it makes you feel better then they're not "children" as I called them and Ella's not a "child killer". She's upgraded to a killer of middle schoolers now. Hooray for Ella!
You're cool with that? Since that specific part was what bothered you the most, I assume. Not that it makes what Ella did any less horrible but hey if this minor(
) correction is what you wanted, you got it. I'm getting this out the way now so it doesn't drag out any longer than necessary.
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If there will be Ella route sometime in the future it will end like this:
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I would like to humbly request more Demi trap route.
He's adorable and I want more of him.
He's adorable and I want more of him.
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So it probably won't be for a long time but does anyone know if we'll ever go back to the first major choice in the story where the patrons decided between fighting or running away from
cause it seemed like that was where the story was going to have 2 routes.
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"14 year old kills 14 year old" is very different from "20+ year old kills a 6 year olds"
When you say "X is a child murderer" you are indicating the latter. Which is dishonest misrepresentation of the facts
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This might be true in some languages, but I don't think this distinction exists in regular English usage. A child murderer can be anyone who kills children or a child who murders others. Ella counts either way since she was a child who killed other children.
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on Stack Exchange, strangely enough.Well, I'm definitely going to need to murder my search history after this.
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It's not dishonest. I didn't say "Ella is a Child Murderer". You're the one being dishonest by putting that specific wording in my mouth. I said "Ella murdered a school full of children". But like I said, I have no interest in discussing this any further with you. I don't care how you feel on it. I've already accommodated you more than enough on it.
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facepalm.
this is literally the same thing. that slight alteration in phrasing has literally identical meaning.
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Same thing my ass.
In fact, here's my original quote that's unedited so everyone can see. Where in there did I say "Ella is a Child Murderer".
Saying "Ella got children killed" doesn't = me saying "Ella is a child murderer". Her age doesn't matter to this statement because there would still be a group of children being killed.
Only thing, I potentially misrepresented was them qualifying as children still at 13 to 14. You twisted it just to argue with me.
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Your most up to date quotes work just fine:
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It is the same thing.
"X is a child murderer" is saying the same thing as "X murdered a school full of children"
Actually if anything "X is a child murderer" is a slightly more tame statement.
As your actual wording is more of "X is a child mass murderer"
specifying which specific children (school children) does not make a meaningful difference to the statement
A. Misattributing childhood to the victim of murder is pretty damn huge thing.
B. You also conveniently omitted the part where ella was the same age as them.
And I didn't "twist it just to argue with you". I pointed out that your original statement is misleading because <insert clarification>. Because it is misleading, not because I just want to argue.
If you genuinely thought your original statement was fine as is then there would not even be an argument.
Nothing stopping you from just letting my clarification stand as is.
Why is it so threatening to you that I clarified Ella was 14 at the time?
C. Also, while we are at it. you keep on saying "an entire school". but it was actually more like a single classroom's worth.
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