VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[Snugglepuff]

I wonder, can the MC tank a nuke? At which point if any did he become so powerful that the government or HERO tech (without SuperHumans) wouldn't be able to kill him

Depending on the yield of the warhead, I wouldn't doubt that he could tank the blast. I'm fairly certain that nukes were ruled out as a means of taking on the toughest classes of monsters in general, due to the explosive force not being enough to kill or possibly even injure them.

I'd be more curious about the radiation exposure though.
His armoured form would more than likely block alpha, beta and gamma radiation, but the real question is whether or not it'd block neutron radiation, and how well his cells and superhuman dna can handle the damaging effects.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Something occurred to me when thinking about where the MC's powers will progress as he evolves. In later stages, a Superhuman's powers start veering more towards the conceptual along with the simpler "same thing but stronger" powers that simply grow with the Power stat.

I wonder if the MC's trait of Evolution along with the Body's immense regeneration might lend itself to becoming something like Doomsday from the Superman comics, where an attack might just about obliterate him, his Body trait regenerates him, and the conceptual mingling with Memory of the attack fuses into an Evolution where he becomes highly resistant, if not immune, to the type of attack that almost killed him. Right there in the moment, not over time.

That seems exactly like the kind of thing that would help MC stay in the game against some of these obscenely powerful abilities, staying in line with the fact that he doesn't specialize in firepower but rather durability and adaptability.

I've been thinking that, myself. It just makes sense as a combination of Body and Memory, even without any conceptual business. We've seen that infusing his memories into his body lets the MC automate his transformations. It should be possible at the highest end to automate the process so much the MC doesn't even have to design his transformations, just have his body shift on its own to handle the current problem. Ella actually says this update that combining Body and Memory is the key to "ultimate adaptation". Maybe she meant something else, but with her emphasis on how Body is more important and Memory is supposed to support it, I'm betting she means that sort of adaptive transformation.

It would be cool if we see something like that the next time the Eye manifests. It's implied to remember its deaths across the Dead Ends, so maybe it will have adapted to survive what's killed it before. Like, what if when Deus shows up toprune the timeline, finds his attacks ineffective, and has to bring in someone else who hasn't fought the Eye yet to handle it for him? I think that would be a fun comeback from the Eye's loss against him.

 

[obibobi]

Depending on the yield of the warhead, I wouldn't doubt that he could tank the blast. I'm fairly certain that nukes were ruled out as a means of taking on the toughest classes of monsters in general, due to the explosive force not being enough to kill or possibly even injure them.

I'd be more curious about the radiation exposure though.
His armoured form would more than likely block alpha, beta and gamma radiation, but the real question is whether or not it'd block neutron radiation, and how well his cells and superhuman dna can handle the damaging effects.

The MC could alter his body into a fly and can literally change his ass into a sofa, he completely changes what he is with a thought, even without factoring superhuman durability, cell damage being an issue just wouldn't make sense.

 

[Snugglepuff]

cell damage being an issue just wouldn't make sense.

I don't think you quite understand the effects of radiation damage on the cells and dna of living organisms... Hell, even the damage it does to inorganic materials.

 

[Zolrazz]

Something occurred to me when thinking about where the MC's powers will progress as he evolves. In later stages, a Superhuman's powers start veering more towards the conceptual along with the simpler "same thing but stronger" powers that simply grow with the Power stat.

I wonder if the MC's trait of Evolution along with the Body's immense regeneration might lend itself to becoming something like Doomsday from the Superman comics, where an attack might just about obliterate him, his Body trait regenerates him, and the conceptual mingling with Memory of the attack fuses into an Evolution where he becomes highly resistant, if not immune, to the type of attack that almost killed him. Right there in the moment, not over time.

That seems exactly like the kind of thing that would help MC stay in the game against some of these obscenely powerful abilities, staying in line with the fact that he doesn't specialize in firepower but rather durability and adaptability.

The problem here is that Mc's powers are very basic. Of course, if it were like that as you said, it would be a great advantage, the problem is that there is always a limit, even Doomsday ends up dying in some editions, dying for real, the problem is that he always comes back to life, if Mc could link himself to a non-material level, then, yes, he would become an S-level threat, the problem with this is that we have beings capable of altering reality, distorting space and attacking beyond the material realm

Depending on the yield of the warhead, I wouldn't doubt that he could tank the blast. I'm fairly certain that nukes were ruled out as a means of taking on the toughest classes of monsters in general, due to the explosive force not being enough to kill or possibly even injure them.

I'd be more curious about the radiation exposure though.
His armoured form would more than likely block alpha, beta and gamma radiation, but the real question is whether or not it'd block neutron radiation, and how well his cells and superhuman dna can handle the damaging effects.

Maybe radiation isn't a problem, the real danger would be the heat generated by the bomb, if we were to take the most powerful one which is the TSAR bomb, then I doubt he'd make it

 

[RudeFist]

The problem here is that Mc's powers are very basic. Of course, if it were like that as you said, it would be a great advantage, the problem is that there is always a limit, even Doomsday ends up dying in some editions, dying for real, the problem is that he always comes back to life, if Mc could link himself to a non-material level, then, yes, he would become an S-level threat, the problem with this is that we have beings capable of altering reality, distorting space and attacking beyond the material realm

They're basic for now but the more complex stuff is what comes with evolution, especially later ones. It's kinda like how Ella dunked all over that one Lieutenant who had the raw power rating of some lvl 5s due to the decades spent as a lvl 3, pointing out to him that despite his brute strength he was holding himself back from the wilder manifestations of power of later evolutions. And yeah, he definitely won't be invincible by any stretch given how many reality warping juggernauts exist, especially because he wouldn't be able to regenerate from the total obliteration several of them are capable of inflicting. It's more just an idea of how the MC can feasibly progress besides more tentacles and bigger appendages.

 

[obibobi]

I don't think you quite understand the effects of radiation damage on the cells and dna of living organisms... Hell, even the damage it does to inorganic materials.

You do realize we are discussing a superhero setting where the characters have powers that are basically magical and the MC's has had the ability to reset his entire body from level 1 or transforming flesh that's been turned to stone, or making his body appear from thin air, radiation poisoning is very tame compared to basically not existing. Michaels power has also dealt in radiation and like everything that's super charged and its not like his opponents drop like flies, Met recovered easily enough.

He's also approaching the point where man made weapons can't stop him, although that may be as early as level 3, as I believe it was level 3 or monster equivalent could only be stopped by weapons that only exist in the setting.

 

[Snugglepuff]

You do realize we are discussing a superhero setting where the characters have powers that are basically magical

Oh, I'm well aware.
It hasn't stopped you or others from theorising with logic and reasoning within the confines of the world and its lore.
Why so insistent on shitting on mine with such little effort as "basically magical" as a reason?

and the MC's has had the ability to reset his entire body from level 1 or transforming flesh that's been turned to stone

So?

radiation poisoning is very tame compared to basically not existing.

Don't confuse "appearing from thin air" with "not existing", and don't underestimate radiation poisoning or how it affects inorganic matter.
Given how it affects metal alone, and our MC can create metal blades/spikes from his body, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could at least be severely weakened at first (depending on the level of exposure), and likely lead to further damage that he may or may not be able to deal with.

Michaels power has also dealt in radiation and like everything that's super charged and its not like his opponents drop like flies, Met recovered easily enough.

I don't recall if it was stated what kind of radiation is related to Michael's power, or if it's even a form of damaging radiation.

He's also approaching the point where man made weapons can't stop him, although that may be as early as level 3, as I believe it was level 3 or monster equivalent could only be stopped by weapons that only exist in the setting.

Eh, I'd say he's probably at the point where typical/normal man-made weapons can't do shit to him, but the monster augmented and advanced weapons might still be a problem for him. Even the special weapons made for Superhumans are man-made, it's just the materials and processes that are different.

 

[UncleFappy]

I'm honestly surprised at how good this game is. I had intentionally ignored it because of how crap the art looked, but man... this edgy superhero kinda-sorta-not-really-but-kinda Persona formula is actually working really well. MC with the Alex Mercer type powers is cool, too.

Still way early in, but man, I'm looking forward to seeing how the shenanigans spiral out.