VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[CaptainBlackberry]

any way to fix the groundhogs day loop when you

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. when i go to bed after the even it just repeats back to the start.

You can redownload the hotfix, or:
Go to game ---> scripts ---> day167
Use ctrl f to jump to 'sleep166'
Change this to 'sleep168', save, and then it should work normally.

 

[Zekethor2]

So, in the previous update, the MC and Liz talk about how Amber seems to be really talented, and capable of growing insanely fast, so fast that one fight for Amber is equivalent to days or weeks of training for Liz. One of the answers that we can give to Liz is that it's possible that Amber wasn't turned by the Strength Eaters, but by the being that they are subservient to. They call it a god, but most probably it is one of the two Outer Twins, the one that is still alive and the one that could therefore pick who their Chosen would be. Like I said, in that same update, you have a chance to jump into a flame that loses you 10 Power, but gives you a memory from the Arbiter Chaos that 3 and 1 have died, which to me meant that 3 Arbiters and one of the Outer Twins died in a fight against some kind of being or beings from outside of the universe that they created. This memory mentions that the Arbiters who died became a pair of twins, aka the Apostles, which was weird because the Outer Twins were also twins, which implied to me that the Outer Twins exist because the original God, that all of the Apostles say they are an aspect of it's power, died and split into them.

So if Amber is supposed to be the Chosen of an Outer Twin, shouldn't it be possible that there is another individual that is supposed to become the Chosen of the other Outer Twin? It makes some sense because there are the Great Ocean, that the Strength Eaters are supposed to be one of the few monsters that can swim freely in it, and the giant tree whose name I still don't remember in that world, but the Dark Moon no longer seems to be there, which might be part of why the sky is almost completely dark. It also explains the behavior of the Great Ocean towards Amber, it seems to be unwilling to touch her in almost any way, and Amber says that something would have come to her if she kept traveling out into the area controlled by the Great Ocean. If they share the same origin, than touching Amber would both cause her to absorb the water she comes into contact with, and probably also corrupt Amber due to their great difference in strength, causing her to eventually fail to meet the standards her Outer Twin has, and causing her to become another part of the Great Ocean.

Then, how or why is the MC possibly the other Outer Twin's Chosen? First, think of what the tree does, it reaches into the Ocean, grabs a giant whale, and is implied to eat it based on how Ella reacts to it. Isn't that similar to what we do, take a sample of a creature, and use it to strengthen or alter our body? We always thought it was just Memory and Body, but what if it was also the foundation of the other Outer Twin's power? One absorbs and distributes some fundamental Power, the other stores Information, and can use it to make, alter, or enhance itself or create new beings. Then, there's the 1% of us that isn't Memory or Body, that came from Syla, and that apparently she couldn't purge from herself. Maybe that was just because she was not conscious of that time, and couldn't forget it, maybe it's because the energy expenditure increases as time goes on, and purging it would kill her, or maybe it's because she can't, because it's from something above her powers, like Evolution or one of the Outer Twins. Which means maybe the Eye is Evolution, as many people, myself included, believed it was, or maybe it is supposed to be what's left of the dead Outer Twin's consciousness. Even if the Eye is Evolution, that doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't surviving inside of something that made it, and that was possibly given to it in order to create a new Chosen for the dead Outer Twin.

So my thoughts boil down to this, the whole reason the Outer Twins made the universe, as they are said to have, was to create a new vessel for God. Something happened between then and now that caused one of the Outer Twins to die, and eventually caused all the Arbiters to die as well. However, they made some preparations to keep the chances of a new God being born from becoming zero, one of which became a part of us, and may be trying to make us either into a Chosen for the dead Outer Twin, or into the new Outer Twin out and out. The Apostles do or don't know about this, and are either attempting to act to stop or continue their work if they do, or are trying to enter the real world for some as of yet unknown reason if they don't.

Alright, so let me try to organize the idea. We have the 12 Apostles, who together form 6 Arbiters, and above them are the 2 Outer Twins. Logically, each of those twins would hold within themselves the properties or essence of 3 Arbiters.


Now, according to your theory, the line “3 and 1 died” refers to 3 Arbiters and 1 of the Outer Twins. That throws me off a bit, because for that scenario to make sense, one of the Twins would’ve had to split into those 3 Arbiters beforehand. Plus, from a causality standpoint, I think it would make more sense if both Outer Twins split at the same time into the 6 Arbiters for some reason, not just one of them, especially in a supposed battle against some external being we’ve seen no evidence of so far.


And according to your view, Amber would be the chosen of one of those Twins, and the MC would be the chosen of the other. So in that case, “SHE is the key” wouldn’t be referring to Ella, but to Amber. But then again, if that were true, the Eye wouldn’t need to say “in 7 days,” which probably marks the day of Ella’s rebirth. That line makes me think he really is the Arbiter of Evolution, and that other superhumans might also carry the consciousness of the Arbiters within them, like Henri, who’s probably the Paradox. Still, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that the consciousness of the Twins exists somewhere too.


As for the death of the Twins and Arbiters, maybe there wasn’t any external or even internal battle at all. Maybe the division is just part of how things are meant to happen. It could be part of the will of the original god, who split himself for some unknown reason.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

2) Predicting MC will reach level 4 very soon and level 5 at the 7 day mark.

Yes, and S+ by the evening, top 3 level by 10, and the ultimate life form by midnight. Can’t wait.

 

[Ray_D]

The Authority(1st Apostle) seeing the MC beating up his chosen one again
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The Body (The 3rd Apostle) and Memory (The 4th Apostle)
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Father yuren:

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[King_In_Yellow]

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[Shadowdragon]

Alright, so let me try to organize the idea. We have the 12 Apostles, who together form 6 Arbiters, and above them are the 2 Outer Twins. Logically, each of those twins would hold within themselves the properties or essence of 3 Arbiters.

This is a little wrong, my thoughts is that it's the one God, split into the Outer Twins when it died, then they made the 6 Arbiters, each of which split in two when they died to become the 12 Apostles. When a being with a complete power dies, like God or the Arbiters, they split into their base parts, allowing them to still live on. Those incomplete halves cannot split when they die, they completely die. That would explain how some Apostles are supposed to be dead for real.

The scene I was referring to before, where we are listening to Chaos' memory, goes as such, "I see them. The enemy. Our kin. Twisted. We are the last. The only three to have prepared. The others were taken as newborns and now... Six. They should be lesser... but are they? Twins... their nature... Our preparations came to naught. We acted to late. All must begin again. Chaos. Burns it all down. Rebirth. The time will come. Our ashes will pave the way. We three... And one other." That, to me, implies some kind of outside enemy, along with the likelihood that three Arbiters and one Outer Twin were left after some attack by said enemy. This also explains my reasoning about God, the twins by themselves are kind of lesser, but if they come together, they can bring forth the original power of their Arbiter. That could easily be extrapolated to the Outer Twins, that if you could bring their powers back together, you could recreate God's might in full.

It could be that Ella is the key, however, there is a problem with that for me. During the Dead End you are talking about, we come face to face with Ella in that state, and we have no idea who Ella is. She's even sad about it before Nico teleports us away to our loss against Deus. It may be that Ella is the one who can prepare the real ritual that allows things to get real nutty, after all, Doll Ella says something like, "The real party can't start without me," in reference to her dead original self.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

The Authority(1st Apostle) seeing the MC beating up his chosen one again
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The best part is the memory Shopkeep arranged for the MC to get, of a past Chosen of Authority bullying the Chosen of Body and Memory. Given Shopkeep's general foreknowledge, there's no way that wasn't a deliberate choice. "Charlie, you're going to be up against a wielder of Authority soon, so before you do just let me remind you that those guys are assholes and deserve every bit of violence you can inflict on them. Have fun!"

 

[Bleh21]

Yes, and S+ by the evening, top 3 level by 10, and the ultimate life form by midnight. Can’t wait.

lol I only said that because its the last arc of the game and level 5 seems to be the most you can do before it becoming rediculous (whatever is inside you can surely bring you to level 5 and he's doing something on day 7). But idk if its gonna actually be the end of the game tho. Seems like people think it'll continue in a sequel?

 

[Shadowdragon]

The best part is the memory Shopkeep arranged for the MC to get, of a past Chosen of Authority bullying the Chosen of Body and Memory. Given Shopkeep's general foreknowledge, there's no way that wasn't a deliberate choice. "Charlie, you're going to be up against a wielder of Authority soon, so before you do just let me remind you that those guys are assholes and deserve every bit of violence you can inflict on them. Have fun!"

The thing is, we've sort of had those feelings about Authority since we figured out Jakes original manipulation. The Eye shows up and says something along the lines of, "We do not bow to the power of the Authority," and then breaks the manipulation for us.

 

[Dipasimaan]

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[Shadowdragon]

Seems like people think it'll continue in a sequel?

The Dev apparently didn't know how the version numbers worked (or so I've heard) so they had always had plans to continue the story past this point. Eventually WW said v1.0 is the end of this section of the story, and they'll continue to work on it as Superhuman 2, not necessarily as a second game, but as continuing off of this game. As I've heard on this site, some people know this better than I do.

 

[emejejjdm]

So from what I can tell, Father Yuren is a lvl 3 superhuman who can transform into 100+ different forms, which are each based off of the elements of the periodic table. He is being controlled remotely by "the old Chosen of Authority," as implied by father Yuren himself. Its fair to assume that this Chosen of Authority that is controlling him may be the same one who killed a previous Chosen of the body, the one described in the memories gained from the shape changing heart and the cupcake Kelly made. In the aforementioned cupcake memory, its implied that this champion of Authority also killed Chosen of both the Dark and the Destruction. It is also mentioned that the Authority is the strongest apostle "by far," and that the third and the fourth stand no chance against the first and the second. I used to think that all Apostles were equal in strength, but that may not be the case.

 

[Dipasimaan]

The Dev apparently didn't know how the version numbers worked (or so I've heard) so they had always had plans to continue the story past this point. Eventually WW said v1.0 is the end of this section of the story, and they'll continue to work on it as Superhuman 2, not necessarily as a second game, but as continuing off of this game. As I've heard on this site, some people know this better than I do.

What we know better in a collective way is that with him we can't really know for sure, he expressed his desires to work on something else for a while so he could maybe later on come back on Superhuman and maybe make an entire other game that continues the story or just make updates for Supehuman

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Its fair to assume that this Chosen of Authority that is controlling him may be the same one who killed a previous Chosen of the body, the one described in the memories gained from the shape changing heart and the cupcake Kelly made.

Huh. I hadn't considered that the Black Mouth might be that old. He calls himself a human, but maybe that's in the same way that the althumans were. And it would be pretty cool if he was some ancient enemy of our lineage. That would make for a rather poetic test of our ability to combine Body and Memory into a greater whole. Each on their own fell to him in the past, but how does he handle both of them in one being?

 

[BenoTF25]

So, it seems that Malik really is the archetype of the good guy: 'Even if you are a monster, you kill no human, you deserve to live'

Malik's a weird character(and I said that on the good sense), for one he must have several times more corruption than what MC can possibly get without tinkering with the game, he was M-Division nuclear option after all back on the unification, still he's a friendly Man, alongside Nyx and Henri, being the one within HERO than seem to genuinely like MC as is(As opposed to Nico with which MC has to prove himself or Elijah who want a goodie sinless Superhero), Malik is simply a nice dude, has morals, Faith, etc, but he's clearly pretty fucked up in the head, beyond the voices, that could be product of corruption, schizophrenia or a blend of the two, he has emotional fits of rage, like when he was gonna use his Planck Technique against Ella, Malik as of now seem like a character whose main deal, is being in the middle of trying to be good, wanting to be, but struggling a whole to be. Nyx even said something like, 'Is hard to be a good guy, huh?', and Malik just look at the ground seemingly not seeing himself as one.

 

[Obliviousdemonchild666]

He might have still had sex, but fair enough I don't really recall exact details. Virginity means Vaginal sex here.

If Jake did that it would be full on rape and given we can call him out on all the shit he did that sucked do you really think we wouldn't have that option in prison when he's wallowing in self-pity? or that we wouldn't see it given this is a adult game?

 

[CaptainBlackberry]

If Jake did that it would be full on rape and given we can call him out on all the shit he did that sucked do you really think we wouldn't have that option in prison when he's wallowing in self-pity? or that we wouldn't see it given this is a adult game?

Yeah, we can clearly see the scene play out. He's on some power high seeing that he can now compel all of these regular humans, orders the twins to "show their assets" and thats it. After that mc sweeps in and tells him to fuck off( if you have enough power at that point). So yeah, no bangin' happens.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

This is a little wrong, my thoughts is that it's the one God, split into the Outer Twins when it died, then they made the 6 Arbiters, each of which split in two when they died to become the 12 Apostles. When a being with a complete power dies, like God or the Arbiters, they split into their base parts, allowing them to still live on. Those incomplete halves cannot split when they die, they completely die. That would explain how some Apostles are supposed to be dead for real.

The scene I was referring to before, where we are listening to Chaos' memory, goes as such, "I see them. The enemy. Our kin. Twisted. We are the last. The only three to have prepared. The others were taken as newborns and now... Six. They should be lesser... but are they? Twins... their nature... Our preparations came to naught. We acted to late. All must begin again. Chaos. Burns it all down. Rebirth. The time will come. Our ashes will pave the way. We three... And one other." That, to me, implies some kind of outside enemy, along with the likelihood that three Arbiters and one Outer Twin were left after some attack by said enemy. This also explains my reasoning about God, the twins by themselves are kind of lesser, but if they come together, they can bring forth the original power of their Arbiter. That could easily be extrapolated to the Outer Twins, that if you could bring their powers back together, you could recreate God's might in full.

It could be that Ella is the key, however, there is a problem with that for me. During the Dead End you are talking about, we come face to face with Ella in that state, and we have no idea who Ella is. She's even sad about it before Nico teleports us away to our loss against Deus. It may be that Ella is the one who can prepare the real ritual that allows things to get real nutty, after all, Doll Ella says something like, "The real party can't start without me," in reference to her dead original self.

The whole God > Outer Twins > Arbiter > Apostle hierarchy has basically been debunked at this point. The Arbiters/Apostles and the Outer Twins are separate entities. The Outer Twins were the ones that changed the first three arbiters into six apostles.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Huh. I hadn't considered that the Black Mouth might be that old. He calls himself a human, but maybe that's in the same way that the althumans were. And it would be pretty cool if he was some ancient enemy of our lineage. That would make for a rather poetic test of our ability to combine Body and Memory into a greater whole. Each on their own fell to him in the past, but how does he handle both of them in one being?

If you pay attention, Yuren says something about how we all are too "attached to the physical world, as if that's all there is". The leading theory at the moment is that the Black Mouth was a Chosen of Authority that died a long time ago, but was resurrected recently, and is possibly working remotely from the Immaterial World without a corporeal form.

 

[NotMrPieman]

How do i NOT get the "Watch what you eat" Dead End 50? (just after having the choices to trick, persuade or threaten him (Father Yuren)).
I've always played this game with the walktrhough mod, always chose green options when available and always chose choices that gave me training, skill or power first. I truly don't know what i'm doing wrong. Every choice goes down to him absorbing me to his cosmic mind.
How much power, skill, training, corruption... (all of them (even government or public)) do i need? Or is it something else?