Ray_D
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This is a little wrong, my thoughts is that it's the one God, split into the Outer Twins when it died, then they made the 6 Arbiters, each of which split in two when they died to become the 12 Apostles. When a being with a complete power dies, like God or the Arbiters, they split into their base parts, allowing them to still live on. Those incomplete halves cannot split when they die, they completely die. That would explain how some Apostles are supposed to be dead for real.
The scene I was referring to before, where we are listening to Chaos' memory, goes as such, "I see them. The enemy. Our kin. Twisted. We are the last. The only three to have prepared. The others were taken as newborns and now... Six. They should be lesser... but are they? Twins... their nature... Our preparations came to naught. We acted to late. All must begin again. Chaos. Burns it all down. Rebirth. The time will come. Our ashes will pave the way. We three... And one other." That, to me, implies some kind of outside enemy, along with the likelihood that three Arbiters and one Outer Twin were left after some attack by said enemy. This also explains my reasoning about God, the twins by themselves are kind of lesser, but if they come together, they can bring forth the original power of their Arbiter. That could easily be extrapolated to the Outer Twins, that if you could bring their powers back together, you could recreate God's might in full.
It could be that Ella is the key, however, there is a problem with that for me. During the Dead End you are talking about, we come face to face with Ella in that state, and we have no idea who Ella is. She's even sad about it before Nico teleports us away to our loss against Deus. It may be that Ella is the one who can prepare the real ritual that allows things to get real nutty, after all, Doll Ella says something like, "The real party can't start without me," in reference to her dead original self.
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Dinoflaggelate
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The best part is the memory Shopkeep arranged for the MC to get, of a past Chosen of Authority bullying the Chosen of Body and Memory. Given Shopkeep's general foreknowledge, there's no way that wasn't a deliberate choice. "Charlie, you're going to be up against a wielder of Authority soon, so before you do just let me remind you that those guys are assholes and deserve every bit of violence you can inflict on them. Have fun!"
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lol I only said that because its the last arc of the game and level 5 seems to be the most you can do before it becoming rediculous (whatever is inside you can surely bring you to level 5 and he's doing something on day 7). But idk if its gonna actually be the end of the game tho. Seems like people think it'll continue in a sequel?
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The thing is, we've sort of had those feelings about Authority since we figured out Jakes original manipulation. The Eye shows up and says something along the lines of, "We do not bow to the power of the Authority," and then breaks the manipulation for us.
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The Dev apparently didn't know how the version numbers worked (or so I've heard) so they had always had plans to continue the story past this point. Eventually WW said v1.0 is the end of this section of the story, and they'll continue to work on it as Superhuman 2, not necessarily as a second game, but as continuing off of this game. As I've heard on this site, some people know this better than I do.
So from what I can tell, Father Yuren is a lvl 3 superhuman who can transform into 100+ different forms, which are each based off of the elements of the periodic table. He is being controlled remotely by "the old Chosen of Authority," as implied by father Yuren himself. Its fair to assume that this Chosen of Authority that is controlling him may be the same one who killed a previous Chosen of the body, the one described in the memories gained from the shape changing heart and the cupcake Kelly made. In the aforementioned cupcake memory, its implied that this champion of Authority also killed Chosen of both the Dark and the Destruction. It is also mentioned that the Authority is the strongest apostle "by far," and that the third and the fourth stand no chance against the first and the second. I used to think that all Apostles were equal in strength, but that may not be the case.
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What we know better in a collective way is that with him we can't really know for sure, he expressed his desires to work on something else for a while so he could maybe later on come back on Superhuman and maybe make an entire other game that continues the story or just make updates for Supehuman
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Huh. I hadn't considered that the Black Mouth might be that old. He calls himself a human, but maybe that's in the same way that the althumans were. And it would be pretty cool if he was some ancient enemy of our lineage. That would make for a rather poetic test of our ability to combine Body and Memory into a greater whole. Each on their own fell to him in the past, but how does he handle both of them in one being?
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Malik's a weird character(and I said that on the good sense), for one he must have several times more corruption than what MC can possibly get without tinkering with the game, he was M-Division nuclear option after all back on the unification, still he's a friendly Man, alongside Nyx and Henri, being the one within HERO than seem to genuinely like MC as is(As opposed to Nico with which MC has to prove himself or Elijah who want a goodie sinless Superhero), Malik is simply a nice dude, has morals, Faith, etc, but he's clearly pretty fucked up in the head, beyond the voices, that could be product of corruption, schizophrenia or a blend of the two, he has emotional fits of rage, like when he was gonna use his Planck Technique against Ella, Malik as of now seem like a character whose main deal, is being in the middle of trying to be good, wanting to be, but struggling a whole to be. Nyx even said something like, 'Is hard to be a good guy, huh?', and Malik just look at the ground seemingly not seeing himself as one.
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If Jake did that it would be full on rape and given we can call him out on all the shit he did that sucked do you really think we wouldn't have that option in prison when he's wallowing in self-pity? or that we wouldn't see it given this is a adult game?
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Yeah, we can clearly see the scene play out. He's on some power high seeing that he can now compel all of these regular humans, orders the twins to "show their assets" and thats it. After that mc sweeps in and tells him to fuck off( if you have enough power at that point). So yeah, no bangin' happens.
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The whole God > Outer Twins > Arbiter > Apostle hierarchy has basically been debunked at this point. The Arbiters/Apostles and the Outer Twins are separate entities. The Outer Twins were the ones that changed the first three arbiters into six apostles.
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If you pay attention, Yuren says something about how we all are too "attached to the physical world, as if that's all there is". The leading theory at the moment is that the Black Mouth was a Chosen of Authority that died a long time ago, but was resurrected recently, and is possibly working remotely from the Immaterial World without a corporeal form.
How do i NOT get the "Watch what you eat" Dead End 50? (just after having the choices to trick, persuade or threaten him (Father Yuren)).
I've always played this game with the walktrhough mod, always chose green options when available and always chose choices that gave me training, skill or power first. I truly don't know what i'm doing wrong. Every choice goes down to him absorbing me to his cosmic mind.
How much power, skill, training, corruption... (all of them (even government or public)) do i need? Or is it something else?
I've always played this game with the walktrhough mod, always chose green options when available and always chose choices that gave me training, skill or power first. I truly don't know what i'm doing wrong. Every choice goes down to him absorbing me to his cosmic mind.
How much power, skill, training, corruption... (all of them (even government or public)) do i need? Or is it something else?
CaptainBlackberry
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Hmm, did you eat any of the other cultists? When you eat one MC says some thing like "a haze clouding these thoughts", so that's probably what happened. You ate one or more of the cultists and it gave Yauren enough of a link with MC's mind to consume MC. Try to load a previous save and this time eat NONE of the cultists and see what happens.
Well if you pay attention, the reason he gains control of you is because you ate those two guys' brains, leave one or both of them alive and you'll be fine.
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When did this get debunked? Earnestly, I don't remember anything in the story that implied that they were unrelated, and the Apostles each say that they are, "God's X," (where X is their power, as in God's Authority, ect. ect.) which could imply that God is related to the Arbiters and Apostles, but not the Outer Twins, and maybe them being the Outer Twins, they may be the enemies that Chaos is speaking of, but that only partially debunks what I have said so far. But that raises a different question, if the Outer Twins aren't related to the Arbiters, who is the, "one other," that Chaos talks about?