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Has anything in the game put a range on mc's ability to communicate with his friends? With the monsters aiming to disrupt humanities communications that seems like it could be important to hero
Nothing precise, but we can guess it's in the range of single digit kilometers. The MC could maintain a Memory Link to Michael as he ascended past the clouds, but couldn't link with Alice during her fight with Danu until he entered the arena. Long distance communication is not available, at least for now. I do expect the MC will make a telepathic communication network eventually. That H.E.R.O. agent commenting on how he wishes they had one felt too blatant to not be foreshadowing. Probably it's something he'll do once he evolves.
 

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i mean yuren could've possible healed shadow plus if he was puppeted then the thing or person puppertering him might have helped Liz if it really wanted her to stay that badly but if that doesn't happen mc can probably help heal shadow.
Shadow seems to believe that Yuren was lying, it was the only thing she managed to get out through the pain she was in. I was kind of surprised that we didn't offer to heal Shadow there and then honestly. If I was a highly corrupt MC, then it makes some sense, but I'm not. Probably just to keep Emily and Christie's part of the story consistent for the next part. It might also be part of why or how Emily becomes a superhuman, either to use herself to cure Shadow, or Shadow becoming a part of Emily to stop her from becoming a monster. The Chekov's gun is already set up that she might not make it with her own mental strength.
 

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When did this get debunked? Earnestly, I don't remember anything in the story that implied that they were unrelated, and the Apostles each say that they are, "God's X," (where X is their power, as in God's Authority, ect. ect.) which could imply that God is related to the Arbiters and Apostles, but not the Outer Twins, and maybe them being the Outer Twins, they may be the enemies that Chaos is speaking of, but that only partially debunks what I have said so far. But that raises a different question, if the Outer Twins aren't related to the Arbiters, who is the, "one other," that Chaos talks about?
The one other could be the Eye, him being Evolution has much evidence build up, but is not a fact, he might be something else and what the Memory of Chaos was referring to. Because the Arbiters that did prepared are most likely the last three, as Syla mention that those last Apostles seem 'badly made', so it could be, Outer Twins warp three Arbiters into Six Twin Apostles> The Three Last Arbiters, Soul, Chaos and Paradox fight but lost against their corrupted Siblings and the Outer Twins> Chaos burns the previous universe and vow to their revenge, of the three and the one another, being the Eye.
 
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Shadow seems to believe that Yuren was lying, it was the only thing she managed to get out through the pain she was in. I was kind of surprised that we didn't offer to heal Shadow there and then honestly. If I was a highly corrupt MC, then it makes some sense, but I'm not. Probably just to keep Emily and Christie's part of the story consistent for the next part. It might also be part of why or how Emily becomes a superhuman, either to use herself to cure Shadow, or Shadow becoming a part of Emily to stop her from becoming a monster. The Chekov's gun is already set up that she might not make it with her own mental strength.
Shadow merging with Emily somehow would be pretty cool. I know the general hypothesis is that Emily will get infected by something with the Dark trait, maybe Shadow's name will become literal. Some sort of darkness familiar that lives in Emily's shadow, always by her side.
 

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Cool game, good plot, beautiful renders, and pretty good sex scenes - but I would like them to be a bit longer. Those who don't like NTR can bypass it and leave only joint sex (threesomes) with male friends, at their own discretion, in short it's a harem, but you can share it. And plus you can do all sorts of fun being a futa or a woman, with men and girlfriends from college . The only downside is that when you choose the NTR path in the pool with the boss, you lose almost all interaction with your girlfriend, meaning the main character has no sex with her. :cool:(y)
 
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The one other could be the Eye, him being Evolution has much evidence build up, but is not a fact, he might be something else and what the Memory of Chaos was referring to. Because the Arbiters that did prepared are most likely the last three, as Syla mention that those last Apostles seem 'badly made', so it could be, Outer Twins warp three Arbiters into Six Twin Apostles> The Three Last Arbiters, Soul, Chaos and Paradox fight but lost against their corrupted Siblings and the Outer Twins> Chaos burns the previous universe and vow to their revenge, of the three and the one another, being the Eye.
If you're right, then the Eye would almost certainly have to be a remnant of God or one of the other Arbiters. That, or something the story hasn't touched on at all so far, which would feel like a copout if it was some as of yet completely unnamed force in the world. Though that might explain H.E.R.O.'s big three being so strong, if they are the chosen of the last 3 Arbiters (Though I don't know how Bernhart would represent Soul if that's the case, as Malik would obviously be Chaos and Henri even more obviously Paradox) going up against the first of the altered.

My thoughts on Syla's reference to their differences seemed to be more so because the first 6 are additive, meaning there is no overlap, but together they become a greater whole, while the latter 6 were antagonistic, meaning they are equal opposites, but if you could somehow balance them, they could become something all encompassing. More simply, the first 6 are half circles, that create a whole circle, and the latter half are like yin and yang, coming together as an interconnected dichotomy to create the whole that is taiji. (Okay, so the taiji part might be weird, as we use yin and yang a lot over in the west, but not the concepts above them like wuji or taiji, but it can be interpreted as, "source of the world," according to Wikipedia, which would fit an Arbiter.)
 
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If you're right, then the Eye would almost certainly have to be a remnant of God. That, or something the story hasn't touched on at all so far, which would feel like a copout if it was some as of yet completely unnamed force in the world. Though that might explain H.E.R.O.'s big three being so strong, if they are the chosen of the last 3 Arbiters (Though I don't know how Bernhart would represent Soul if that's the case, as Malik would obviously be Chaos and Henri even more obviously Paradox) going up against the first of the altered.

My thoughts on Syla's reference to their differences seemed to be more so because the first 6 are additive, meaning there is no overlap, but together they become a greater whole, while the latter 6 were antagonistic, meaning they are equal opposites, but if you could somehow balance them, they could become something all encompassing. More simply, the first 6 are half circles, that create a whole circle, and the latter half are like yin and yang, coming together as an interconnected dichotomy to create the whole that is taiji. (Okay, so the taiji part might be weird, as we use yin and yang a lot over in the west, but not the concepts above them like wuji or taiji, but it can be interpreted as, "source of the world," according to Wikipedia, which would fit an Arbiter.)
From what I understand, the big 3 are just people who had something go right for them. Tanos makes mention of a chimera in HERO (someone who absorbed their twin in utero), and this potentially means one single person has the fabled twin boost. It is suspected this person is Henri, which is why he evolved so fast. Malik's faith is what allows him to overcome his corruption, or something to that effect. And according to WW, Bernie is just somebody who is the perfect superhuman. Everything that could have gone right for Bernie did.

In fact, WW said that of the main group, Alice was the closest to becoming like the big 3. Well, prior to monsterfying that is.
 

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oh shit, I remember I tried this game couple years ago, I forgot it existed, the art seems to have evolved a lot!
 

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From what I understand, the big 3 are just people who had something go right for them. Tanos makes mention of a chimera in HERO (someone who absorbed their twin in utero), and this potentially means one single person has the fabled twin boost. It is suspected this person is Henri, which is why he evolved so fast. Malik's faith is what allows him to overcome his corruption, or something to that effect. And according to WW, Bernie is just somebody who is the perfect superhuman. Everything that could have gone right for Bernie did.

In fact, WW said that of the main group, Alice was the closest to becoming like the big 3. Well, prior to monsterfying that is.
If I recall correctly, the Big Three had literally everything possible go right for them in terms of development. They probably had perfect match to their sires, got maximum benefit from their training and evolutions and passed all their trials. Fuckers 100% Full Cleared being a Superhuman.
 

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The yuren in the cultist hideout was a fake one. Personally i never really liked jake but had to give him some special treatment because of the 1st apostle but now US AUTHORITY FANS EATING GOOD! Yuren literally mindcontrolled some dude and used his powers through him, cant wait to see all his abilities!
 
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From what I understand, the big 3 are just people who had something go right for them. Tanos makes mention of a chimera in HERO (someone who absorbed their twin in utero), and this potentially means one single person has the fabled twin boost. It is suspected this person is Henri, which is why he evolved so fast. Malik's faith is what allows him to overcome his corruption, or something to that effect. And according to WW, Bernie is just somebody who is the perfect superhuman. Everything that could have gone right for Bernie did.

In fact, WW said that of the main group, Alice was the closest to becoming like the big 3. Well, prior to monsterfying that is.
It's been a while since I saw that Dead End, so from what I looked up for this post, and not the last, my bad, the Eye seemed to be surprised that 2 of the 3 were still in control of themselves. Specifically Malik and Henri, so I guess Bernhart wasn't bound to Soul at all. Having the Twin boost and being a Chosen of an Arbiter would be different things that could coexist. It could even be the reason that Henri's brother is chosen, for the paradox of being two people in one body, and the paradox of being a Truth hidden by Fantasy, as I'd argue Henri is supposed to be the part that is Fantasy. Henri is, "Ascendant, yet still unborn," which means to me that it's actually his brother who is the Chosen, not Henri himself, while Malik is, "Completed, but kept whole by faith," which means he should be controlled already, but his faith keeps him from being controlled. Though it might be the opposite, that the only reason that he is complete is because of his faith, so his Arbiter hasn't tried to take control of him until he obtains a different form of stability. It seems like that faith was damaged or partially destroyed during his confrontation with Glae though, as that would explain him going to the cult, and the vision we see of him destroying a planet where he seems to be talking to somethings and referring to them as brothers.

But this being the case, it kind of brings us back to Emily in a sense. After all, even Ella says she couldn't find a monster that was a match for her, what if it's supposed to be Soul? Like I said, the latter 6 powers are antagonistic, so there would be almost no monsters, if any, that hold both together, and Dark or Light by themselves wouldn't suit her. Even Shadow's name would kind of be foreshadowing in that case. After all, what's a shadow but a mix of Dark and Light?
 
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It's been a while since I saw that Dead End, so from what I looked up for this post, and not the last, my bad, the Eye seemed to be surprised that 2 of the 3 were still in control of themselves. Specifically Malik and Henri, so I guess Bernhart wasn't bound to Soul at all. Having the Twin boost and being a Chosen of an Arbiter would be different things. Henri is, "Ascendant, yet still unborn," which means to me that it's actually his brother who is the Chosen, not Henri himself, while Malik is, "Completed, but kept whole by faith," which means he should be controlled already, but his faith keeps him from being controlled. Though it might be the opposite, that the only reason that he is complete is because of his faith, so his Arbiter hasn't tried to take control of him until he obtains a different form of stability. It seems like that faith was damaged or partially destroyed during his confrontation with Glae though, as that would explain him going to the cult, and the vision we see of him destroying a planet where he seems to be talking to somethings and referring to them as brothers.

But this being the case, it kind of brings us back to Emily in a sense. After all, even Ella says she couldn't find a monster that was a match for her, what if it's supposed to be Soul? Like I said, the latter 6 powers are antagonistic, so there would be almost no monsters, if any, that hold both together, and Dark or Light by themselves wouldn't suit her. Even Shadow's name would kind of be foreshadowing in that case. After all, what's a shadow but a mix of Dark and Light?
Also, we know the make-up of two of the Big 3. Malik is Power/Truth/Fantasy. Bernie is Ether/Truth/Fantasy. We haven't been confirmed about what Henri's make-up is but... it's Truth/Fantasy, it's so obvious.
 

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Also, we know the make-up of two of the Big 3. Malik is Power/Truth/Fantasy. Bernie is Ether/Truth/Fantasy. We haven't been confirmed about what Henri's make-up is but... it's Truth/Fantasy, it's so obvious.
Fair enough, I'm probably wrong about Malik being Chosen. Though reexamining the Eye's statement kind of implies that Malik might be falling apart right now then, since it seems his faith has been at least somewhat shaken. Thoughts on my guess for Emily, or who might become Chosen of Chaos then? It'd be funny if somehow it ended up being Mia (Jake's friend who he accidently memory wiped for those who don't remember) but that seems really unlikely. I only offer her up because she both seems to have a knack for making things, while Michael says that she got pretty good at fighting, for a girl her size and weight class, when she had forgotten him and their training sessions. There's been nothing to suppose that she has compatibility or that she will become a superhuman, it's just the only person I could think of who just so happens to have some degree of both creation and destruction in them (No, not Deryl. Sure, he likes to fight, but he seems far more interested in making things that would fight for him or keep him at range, while Mia actually seems to have a natural talent for CQC.). Plus, it would be pretty funny for her to suddenly and unexpectedly become really powerful out of nowhere.
 
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Fair enough, I'm probably wrong about Malik being Chosen. Though reexamining the Eye's statement kind of implies that Malik might be falling apart right now then, since it seems his faith has been at least somewhat shaken. Thoughts on my guess for Emily, or who might become Chosen of Chaos then? It'd be funny if somehow it ended up being Mia (Jake's friend who he accidently memory wiped for those who don't remember) but that seems really unlikely. I only offer her up because she both seems to have a knack for making things, while Michael at says that she got pretty good at fighting, for a girl her size and weight class, when she had forgotten him and their training sessions. There's been nothing to suppose that she has compatibility or that she will become a superhuman, it's just the only person I could think of who just so happens to have some degree of both creation and destruction in them (No, not Deryl. Sure, he likes to fight, but he seems far more interested in making things that would fight for him or keep him at range, while Mia actually seems to have a natural talent for CQC.). Plus, it would be pretty funny for her to suddenly and unexpectedly become really powerful out of nowhere.
Maybe. But the longstanding theory is Valravn will infect Emily. And the setup for that potential interaction was just clicked into place this last update.
 

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Maybe. But the longstanding theory is Valravn will infect Emily. And the setup for that potential interaction was just clicked into place this last update.
Could be he infects her, I have thought about that before. Heck, I'm pretty sure I've posted about the possibility, but Ella's seen Val, heck she had him so weak she could tie him up for who knows how long. If Val was compatible, she probably would have seen it. She might have said something like, "Well, there was one, but I couldn't guarantee he wouldn't just kill you," because she doesn't seem to want to lie to either Emily or Christie. Really stretch the truth sometimes, but not out and out lie if she can help it.

Maybe he does, maybe it's Shadow like Tahxeol says above me, but she might instead be infected by the thing that killed us in Too Powerful, too Soon. The being I'm pretty sure is supposed to be the Lord of Dark, who I think Val was summoning at the time, and who we allow him to summon if we distract Ella long enough that she doesn't interfere in his fight against her kids. The thing that has always been weird about it is that it refers to a bride, not a twin or sibling, when it is saving Val when he was just a raven. (Wait. . . did I just figure out now that Valravn's name is just Valiant raven put together. I feel a little dumb for not figuring that out before.) Plus, it seems to be the only being with some form of both powers (It has a light hidden in the darkness, from what I remember of that path.) which implies it might be able to give both to someone, even if the light it has is borrowed or stolen from it's dead bride. It might even be that Val asks his master to save her, as he sees that she could be it's Chosen, and have it descend into the world to give her it's powers.

The only other thing I'll say about it is that it just so happens to fit Emily's personality better than Darkness alone. Emily likes being goth, absolutely, but she is also kind and considerate. Heck, she's the one who wakes us up when we are lying in the park on our first day as a new superhuman. I don't think the park was empty save for us and Shadow, but even if it was, we could have been dangerous to her, but she just walks up and wakes us up. That doesn't feel very dark to me, but it could be because she could just tell we weren't going to hurt her. As if she could see that in our soul, we weren't going to harm her.
 
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the entire time i was waiting for mc to heal his fathers hand and eye, if i rem correctly mc can fix that and that was the only thing i was thinking about when they were interacting is when is homie gonna heal dude lol.
The arm for sure should have been healed, Stephen has very recent memories that could guide us on fixing it, and we're not short on power after that. The eye though, it's been about a decade since he had it, and the MC is still bad at fixing brains, so I could see him not fixing that. Thinking about it though, Syla did say that Stephen was really compatible with Body, dangerously so, that might be the reason we didn't fix his arm. If we did, Stephen might end up turning even if we were as careful as possible about it. Could also be that WW's going to give him a robotic arm like Dexter has, maybe not with all the capabilities that Dexter's has, but something that would allow him some measure of defense even if he doesn't have another weapon on him. That would be cool too.
 
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