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Locaocao

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Guys did the last update ended after dealing with the cultist leader and Clark taking him, or i am just late?

(Please tell me i am late and that we got more content)
 
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maxdrell

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Guys did the last update ended after dealing with the cultist leader and Clark taking him, or i am just late?

(Please tell me i am late and that we got more content)
We got more content, but if you downloaded the older cheat mod for 0.9999 and merged it with 0.99999, the mod overwrites and cuts off the script early. Just go get the newer mod pack (or play without) and you get the extra days leading up to and including Daryl's party (plus the cliffhanger, the beginning of the end).
 

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Well, it could happen, but I think it's unlikely, lv 5 is suposed to be an extremely exclusive club, accesible only to those who completed complicated requirements (until Xanthe started forging invitations), moreover, Aos said something like the MC would truly understand how fucked up his situation is once he reaches said level, so it could be reserved for later. Also note that a lv4 MC could be very well be on par with the newer lv5s, especially with the Eye now active, so there could be no need for him to evolve in the short term. So far our protagonist has evolved from human to lv 3 (soon to be 4), the next part could start from lv4 and have him acquire alternative ways to increase his Power (as Nico has hinted at), like Deryl's "Philosopher's Pebble", Ella's eyes or the DW sword that we haven't heard from for a while, then reach lv5 (preferably through natural ways, Xanthe's serum if failed decisions and/or checks, and finally that "different" stage that he is supposed to get to (like that statue in the sky city, idk if he would skip lv5 to this one).

(Then again, he could die and be reborn with the help of Nyx's mark, though this might be just a trial.)
We also can't ignore the fact that the MC is the MC for a reason. He's like NEO in the Matrix. He's special.

He was literally birthed by not only a monster, but an extremely powerful Chosen.
He has the abilities of, and connection to, not one, but two Apostles.
And there's The Eye, which, at the very least, gives him a direct connection to some sort of prehistoric power.

How many other characters check off one of these boxes, let alone all three.

WW has subtly written the MC in a way that none of the evolution rules/trends could apply to him, and it would totally make sense.
 
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I checked the wiki to "confirm" but I can't remember it being stated that there are trials to become Chosen, only meeting some criteria. From what I remember it seemed more of a "If an Apostles declares you a Chosen, then you become a Chosen" type of deal. Adding to that I believe Aos said/implied that to be eligible to become a Chosen you have to either be a level 5 or a S rank monster, so before the invention of the serum I suppose it was a given that a superhuman candidate to have already completed all their trials.
Somewhat related but have Alice even completed/been given any trials that we know of? Maybe her learning to fly was one but I don't think the 6th/Aos tasked/suggested her to do that.

As for the Captains, they didn't unknowingly complete their trials. After Henri got to level 5 he provided enough insight/guidance for Bernhardt and Malik to complete their own trials and get their own natural evolutions. None of the other captains did this because it was considered far too risky, hence the development of the serum.

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I keep flip-flopping on what I believe that ritual was ment to achieve. Ella said she got her eyes from a ritual and that speech mentions eyes, but she also failed that ritual so did she redo it later? Got a "lesser" version of them? Got them anyway?
It also says "Memories visible" which meshes with earlier theories/guess that the ritual was supposed to increase her Memory lineage and her drinking a liquid that connected her with the 4th while evolving would be a logical way to do it.
Maybe it was both and if she succeeded she would have been able to access memories like the MC but with sight instead of touch?
Also Tanos mechanical copy of her eyes. How/when did he get it? He wouldn't have been able to study them to make it if she got the eyes after she escaped, so did she have them before she escaped? He probably wouldn't mention Ella if he just got the blueprint from the Rebis.
I really hope, but kind of doubt, that this will be explained since this is a relatively tiny detail in the story.

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I believe the only known requirements for a natural level 5 are passing the trials, which are different for each person probably. There's likely a sort of "theme" or general logic to the trials since Henri was able to somehow inform Bernhardt and Malik on what they needed to do to pass their own trials.
Michael may be the best example for what the trials might look like since we know of multiple ones he has to accomplish, which include: Absorbing a variety of different types of energy, draining the heat from a planets core and absorbing the energy of a S class monster.
I don't remember if there were others but there is a theme here of absorbing either diverse types of energy and enormous quantity or "quality" of energy. They seem to direct him to use his powers in ways he might not have considered or push him to "gorge" himself past what he would normally have attempted.

As for the other levels, I believe there are no real requirements other than just being strong enough to qualify and stable enough not to monsterify.
 
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Rereading the VN, I come back to the second EyeMC DeadEnd, something curious about it though, that I didn't pay much mind before(mostly because of being on the train of Clown EyeMC by jobbing yet again), is that Bernhardt didn't believe in the existence of Monsters beyond the S-Class until he faces the MC on his origin form.

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Besides the fact that this DeadEnd straight up confirm that the incomplete Eye is well above Chosen level(with exceptions being prob Aglaecwif and Indra, maybe Black Mouth too)as Bern didn't really feel impressed by Eisheth, yet he immediately locked in for EyeMC, is that by this point, Zack already told the rest of the Captains, the details about his squad's being stomped by the LoD, did Bernhardt truly think that Zack was just bullshit them?

That aside, now in Canon, or the Main Timeline(?, Bernhardt is finally gonna see a being beyond S-Class once he reach Malik fighting against the Wasting Mother, now I even more so want WeirdWorld to give us a peek in that fight, would be a good point of comparison in how the Eye measure with Complete 'Gods', though since Malik has been fighting the Wasting Mama for who knows how long already, and the battle is gonna keep going at least other twelve hours, she already out scale EyeMC.
 
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I checked the wiki to "confirm" but I can't remember it being stated that there are trials to become Chosen, only meeting some criteria. From what I remember it seemed more of a "If an Apostles declares you a Chosen, then you become a Chosen" type of deal. Adding to that I believe Aos said/implied that to be eligible to become a Chosen you have to either be a level 5 or a S rank monster, so before the invention of the serum I suppose it was a given that a superhuman candidate to have already completed all their trials.
Somewhat related but have Alice even completed/been given any trials that we know of? Maybe her learning to fly was one but I don't think the 6th/Aos tasked/suggested her to do that.

As for the Captains, they didn't unknowingly complete their trials. After Henri got to level 5 he provided enough insight/guidance for Bernhardt and Malik to complete their own trials and get their own natural evolutions. None of the other captains did this because it was considered far too risky, hence the development of the serum.


I keep flip-flopping on what I believe that ritual was ment to achieve. Ella said she got her eyes from a ritual and that speech mentions eyes, but she also failed that ritual so did she redo it later? Got a "lesser" version of them? Got them anyway?
It also says "Memories visible" which meshes with earlier theories/guess that the ritual was supposed to increase her Memory lineage and her drinking a liquid that connected her with the 4th while evolving would be a logical way to do it.
Maybe it was both and if she succeeded she would have been able to access memories like the MC but with sight instead of touch?
Also Tanos mechanical copy of her eyes. How/when did he get it? He wouldn't have been able to study them to make it if she got the eyes after she escaped, so did she have them before she escaped? He probably wouldn't mention Ella if he just got the blueprint from the Rebis.
I really hope, but kind of doubt, that this will be explained since this is a relatively tiny detail in the story.


I believe the only known requirements for a natural level 5 are passing the trials, which are different for each person probably. There's likely a sort of "theme" or general logic to the trials since Henri was able to somehow inform Bernhardt and Malik on what they needed to do to pass their own trials.
Michael may be the best example for what the trials might look like since we know of multiple ones he has to accomplish, which include: Absorbing a variety of different types of energy, draining the heat from a planets core and absorbing the energy of a S class monster.
I don't remember if there were others but there is a theme here of absorbing either diverse types of energy and enormous quantity or "quality" of energy. They seem to direct him to use his powers in ways he might not have considered or push him to "gorge" himself past what he would normally have attempted.

As for the other levels, I believe there are no real requirements other than just being strong enough to qualify and stable enough not to monsterify.
Alice's trial, or at least a mission given to her by the Sixth Apostle itself, is to eat Aos, once she do that she's gonna become the Chosen of Ether.
 
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Rereading the VN, I come back to the second EyeMC DeadEnd, something curious about it though, that I didn't pay much mind before(mostly because of being on the train of Clown EyeMC by jobbing yet again), is that Bernhardt didn't believe in the existence of Monsters beyond the S-Class until he faces the MC on his origin form.

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Besides the fact that this DeadEnd straight up confirm that the incomplete Eye is well above Chosen level(with exceptions being prob Aglaecwif and Indra, maybe Black Mouth too)as Bern didn't really feel impressed by Eisheth, yet he immediately locked in for EyeMC, is that by this point, Zack already told the rest of the Captains, the details about his squad's being stomped by the LoD, did Bernhardt truly think that Zack was just bullshit them?

That aside, now in Canon, or the Main Timeline(?, Bernhardt is finally gonna see a being beyond S-Class once he reach Malik fighting against the Wasting Mother, now I even more so want WeirdWorld to give us a peek in that fight, would be a good point of comparison in how the Eye measure with Complete 'Gods', though since Malik has been fighting the Wasting Mama for who knows how long already, and the battle is gonna keep going at least other twelve hours, she already out scale EyeMC.
where is the second eye dead end?
 

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I checked the wiki to "confirm" but I can't remember it being stated that there are trials to become Chosen, only meeting some criteria. From what I remember it seemed more of a "If an Apostles declares you a Chosen, then you become a Chosen" type of deal. Adding to that I believe Aos said/implied that to be eligible to become a Chosen you have to either be a level 5 or a S rank monster, so before the invention of the serum I suppose it was a given that a superhuman candidate to have already completed all their trials.
Somewhat related but have Alice even completed/been given any trials that we know of? Maybe her learning to fly was one but I don't think the 6th/Aos tasked/suggested her to do that.

As for the Captains, they didn't unknowingly complete their trials. After Henri got to level 5 he provided enough insight/guidance for Bernhardt and Malik to complete their own trials and get their own natural evolutions. None of the other captains did this because it was considered far too risky, hence the development of the serum.


I keep flip-flopping on what I believe that ritual was ment to achieve. Ella said she got her eyes from a ritual and that speech mentions eyes, but she also failed that ritual so did she redo it later? Got a "lesser" version of them? Got them anyway?
It also says "Memories visible" which meshes with earlier theories/guess that the ritual was supposed to increase her Memory lineage and her drinking a liquid that connected her with the 4th while evolving would be a logical way to do it.
Maybe it was both and if she succeeded she would have been able to access memories like the MC but with sight instead of touch?
Also Tanos mechanical copy of her eyes. How/when did he get it? He wouldn't have been able to study them to make it if she got the eyes after she escaped, so did she have them before she escaped? He probably wouldn't mention Ella if he just got the blueprint from the Rebis.
I really hope, but kind of doubt, that this will be explained since this is a relatively tiny detail in the story.


I believe the only known requirements for a natural level 5 are passing the trials, which are different for each person probably. There's likely a sort of "theme" or general logic to the trials since Henri was able to somehow inform Bernhardt and Malik on what they needed to do to pass their own trials.
Michael may be the best example for what the trials might look like since we know of multiple ones he has to accomplish, which include: Absorbing a variety of different types of energy, draining the heat from a planets core and absorbing the energy of a S class monster.
I don't remember if there were others but there is a theme here of absorbing either diverse types of energy and enormous quantity or "quality" of energy. They seem to direct him to use his powers in ways he might not have considered or push him to "gorge" himself past what he would normally have attempted.

As for the other levels, I believe there are no real requirements other than just being strong enough to qualify and stable enough not to monsterify.
From context clues, we can be reliably certain that the ritual she failed was intended to make her a split spawn, or at the very least give her a boost to Memory. We know this cause she drank the Memory Juice in order to start the trial, she has mentioned that Memory has never been her strong suit, and the fact that Memory strongly wants split spawn.

As for the requirements for Evo 5, the only thing we know about it is Ella offhandedly mentioning that your body keeps a record of your strongest battles. My guess, using my glorious meta knowledge, is that for every fight where MC can get a "perfect win" vs a "close shave win", WW keeps track of if you got that perfect win or not. If you get all of them, then MC can reach evo 5 naturally. Otherwise, he'll use the back up option of the serum. This is in addition to all of the other requirements, which we know nothing about. WW has been extremely cagey about what the requirements are, only that it is very easy to miss out on them apparently.
 
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Alice's trial, or at least a mission given to her by the Sixth Apostle itself, is to eat Aos, once she do that she's gonna become the Chosen of Ether.
I'm curious if the Path of Ether is implying that Ether also wants Alice to actually physically find its real body. I love the little chances WW gives us to deny the will of the Apostles like this though. From the Klaus fight, refusing to say For the Glory of God, and from the Path of Ether reminding Alice that her mom abandoned them and getting her enraged at the idea of going to find her 'Mother'/Ether. It's gotta just be for flavor cuz keeping track of that would be way too granular to be useful later, but it feels good to get to do it.
 
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