VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.9999a Beta] [WeirdWorld]

[Julius Kingsley]

I think is safe to assume that Malik's mind is a mess, I mean, despite him being as friendly with MC, and clearly having some moral still, he is far too emotional, he was gonna use a Planck Attack with Ella within Hex's dimension on a fit of rage, while Bernhardt thanked the Eye for left earth before using such attack, meaning that it would be devasting to the Planet, he also lighted up the warehouse in which Alexis was after Aglaecwif touched a nerve. And the way he refer to the voices in his head is 'Brothers/Sisters', he don't call anyone on HERO that, besides Henri and Bernhardt, this make me think that Malik's corruption or maybe a common mental illness make him hallucinate the voices of Early HERO members that died or people he knew as a thug before being recruited by M-Corp, I do like your point of it being regardless something caused by Glae, but I think is more on the line of her having shaked his beliefs, resulting in Malik abandoning Earth to search for Ancient Human planets that she mentioned, previous 'Cycles'

The brothers and sisters part is the most intriguing thing about the whole scene.

The cycles part is what made me come up with the far fetched theory that Malik, and maybe the others too, are from failed civilizations. That would explain why he hates monsters so much and why saving humanity is his first and foremost goal.

But what you said about brothers and sisters referring to M Corp doesn't really make sense, since M Corp was only five people and they’re all still alive right now.

I also don’t think he’s out in space alone. It doesn’t make sense at the moment, but maybe we’ll be given a reason in the next update. Still, that would make Aglaecwif underwhelming as a character if she's just dealt with like that and the story moves on. That doesn’t feel right.

So for me it’s one hundred percent Aglaecwif’s power. The only thing I really want explained is the voices.

 

[UncleFappy]

But what you said about brothers and sisters referring to M Corp doesn't really make sense, since M Corp was only five people and they’re all still alive right now.

Was M Corp always just the five big boys? It could have initially been a whole ass army, and the big five were the ones who survived and became superhumans.

Maybe thats who the brothers and sisters are. The initial band of soldiers, back when they were all normal human. Before they all died. And Malik's corruption manifests as their voices in his head.

And if your theory is right, maybe thats who the people he's getting out before popping the planet are. The fantasy could be Malik in a loop of saving his lost brothers/sisters and destroying the planet. Maybe even feeding into and worsening his corruption, a ploy by Aggy to make him unstable and go nuts.

I'm warming up to the idea the more I think on it.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Was M Corp always just the five big boys? It could have initially been a whole ass army, and the big five were the ones who survived and became superhumans.

Maybe thats who the brothers and sisters are. The initial band of soldiers, back when they were all normal human. Before they all died. And Malik's corruption manifests as their voices in his head.

And if your theory is right, maybe thats who the people he's getting out before popping the planet are. The fantasy could be Malik in a loop of saving his lost brothers/sisters and destroying the planet. Maybe even feeding into and worsening his corruption, a ploy by Aggy to make him unstable and go nuts.

I'm warming up to the idea the more I think on it.

It could be fellow soldiers if he was one before, or like BenoTF25 said, maybe some of the old HERO members or lieutenants from his team who died. But M Corp? No. I think M Corp was created specifically because of the five superhumans in the first place. That’s why Dexter’s father got permission to act independently. It wasn’t just a normal army before that.

Again I’m sure it’s Aglaecwif’s power. Fantasy and memory are powers that no matter how strong you are, you can’t easily deal with them. That’s how Syla took Indra into the dream world. And fantasy is even stronger in that sense, since Aglaecwif told the MC this is more of a fantasy playfield than memory.

I feel like Aglaecwif is just feeding him his biggest nightmare, either from the past or a future he’s afraid of. I think both the Malik scene and Zack’s moment with Indra were added to hype the monsters and make them feel like a real threat. WW had been hyping only HERO for so long, and it doesn’t make for much of a story if one side is overwhelmingly strong and always wins whenever the captains get involved.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

So what did you guys name your alternate persona? Mine was Nycto

No-Thing!

I tried to play it off like Daryl asked MC what his hero name was, and he said "Nothing" and everyone mis-interpreted it.

I think it also works because the MC doesn't have a real "set" shape, they are nothing (and everything) and it gives me Man-Thing vibes, another eldritch tentacle monster.

It also just sounds so unbearably edgy, which imo is appropriate for the setting. Everytime MC says something like "I am No-Thing" or "No-Thing will save you" I can just imagine 12 year old me pumping his fist as much as 28 year old me is cringing and I love it

 

[BenoTF25]

Still, that would make Aglaecwif underwhelming as a character if she's just dealt with like that and the story moves on. That doesn’t feel right.

So for me it’s one hundred percent Aglaecwif’s power. The only thing I really want explained is the voices.

Oh, I don't think Malik killed her or anything similar, even if he is actually on space right now after their encounter, I'm almost sure Aglaecwif is on the same tier of danger than Indra and a full power Valravn, she wouldn't be killed off screen, in fact, seeing how mentally unstable Malik is, since he apparently still hold human values and moralities(which given the lvl of corruption he must have, is probably nightmare) I've been thinking that he might flip sides, like, Aglaecwif is a Monster, as bad Dexter and Bramon are, she's straight up a Monster, but, at the same time, she does genuinely love her Children, and is certainly a manipulation master aside her Fantasy Trait, she might be able to swing Malik to her side, someone with beliefs so extreme and a high regard for family dynamics, that would bring into play a third party(since Glae clearly isn't that loyal to the Apostles) with actual power, could even be a way to take Bernhardt out of the Story while reserving a Full Incarnated Apostle to Henri, an hypothetical traitor Malik with Aglaecwif as support could probably be enough to kill Bernhardt, or hold him indefinitely on a fight, making things more bleak to everyone else on Earth.

 

[Dayswithoutincident69]

So what did you guys name your alternate persona? Mine was Nycto

whatever name I pick, I can't beat the MC's name for his spear attack

 

[TheShelly]

Doesn't Agleacwif directly refer to "the sacrifice" Malik's brothers and sisters had to make? The way he flips off immediately after she mentions it makes me think this "sacrifice" had something to do with his lvl 5 ascension. Maybe his trial for natural lvl 5 was to kill his former comrades? It would make sense that it would permanently haunt a guy like Malik. The line comes after Agleacwif mentions Hell being a thing too. Did Malik literally send his former friends to Hell? That would be even worse.

 

[Zekethor2]

Oh, I don't think Malik killed her or anything similar, even if he is actually on space right now after their encounter, I'm almost sure Aglaecwif is on the same tier of danger than Indra and a full power Valravn, she wouldn't be killed off screen, in fact, seeing how mentally unstable Malik is, since he apparently still hold human values and moralities(which given the lvl of corruption he must have, is probably nightmare) I've been thinking that he might flip sides, like, Aglaecwif is a Monster, as bad Dexter and Bramon are, she's straight up a Monster, but, at the same time, she does genuinely love her Children, and is certainly a manipulation master aside her Fantasy Trait, she might be able to swing Malik to her side, someone with beliefs so extreme and a high regard for family dynamics, that would bring into play a third party(since Glae clearly isn't that loyal to the Apostles) with actual power, could even be a way to take Bernhardt out of the Story while reserving a Full Incarnated Apostle to Henri, an hypothetical traitor Malik with Aglaecwif as support could probably be enough to kill Bernhardt, or hold him indefinitely on a fight, making things more bleak to everyone else on Earth.

Agree, Aglaecwif is insanely powerful. Like, even though Malik’s a beast, he kinda lost some cred after trying to torch Ella and nothing happened. But Aglaecwif? She’s one of the oldest monsters out there, probably millions of years old. Can you imagine the kind of mastery she’s got over her fantasy powers? Honestly, I can’t even picture her losing, no way.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Doesn't Agleacwif directly refer to "the sacrifice" Malik's brothers and sisters had to make? The way he flips off immediately after she mentions it makes me think this "sacrifice" had something to do with his lvl 5 ascension. Maybe his trial for natural lvl 5 was to kill his former comrades? It would make sense that it would permanently haunt a guy like Malik. The line comes after Agleacwif mentions Hell being a thing too. Did Malik literally send his former friends to Hell? That would be even worse.

I don't think Malik would have betrayed anyone. That requires too much forethought, the hints of darkness in Malik have all been about impulse and aggression. So I don't think he would have sacrificed his friends, but I could see him having done something that they had to sacrifice themselves to stop. He goes in too aggressive, provokes something too strong for him to handle at that point in his evolution, and the rest of his team winds up spending their lives to defeat it. So he'd feel guilt over their sacrifice, but it would also have been a sufficiently unexpected thing that he'd have lingering questions of why it happened. Agalecwif wasn't just playing on his guilt, she was also playing on his desire for answers. "The reason for their sacrifice", I think was how she put it.

 

[DrDerpington]

So what did you guys name your alternate persona? Mine was Nycto

No-Thing!

I tried to play it off like Daryl asked MC what his hero name was, and he said "Nothing" and everyone mis-interpreted it.

I think it also works because the MC doesn't have a real "set" shape, they are everything (and nothing)

It also just sounds so unbearably edgy, which imo is appropriate for the setting. Everytime MC says something like "I am No-Thing" or "No-Thing will save you" I can just imagine 12 year old me pumping his fist as much as 28 year old me is cringing and I love it

My hero alter name was: Shadow One
But Nycto also sounds cool.
Sadly No-Thing sucks. Misspelling and Misinterpretation are only funny, if you watch animal or asian MEMEs.

 

[UncleFappy]

My hero alter name was: Shadow One
But Nycto also sounds cool.
Sadly No-Thing sucks. Misspelling and Misinterpretation are only funny, if you watch animal or asian MEMEs.

This man just called countless mythological stories and folktales and Big Daddy Tolkien "animal or asian MEMEs".

 

[DrDerpington]

This man just called countless mythological stories and folktales and Big Daddy Tolkien "animal or asian MEMEs".

 

[RudeFist]

So what did you guys name your alternate persona? Mine was Nycto

*takes wide power stance*
*opens hand in front of own face*
*cocks hips to one side*

You can call me... *butchers an attempt to mimic Christian Bale's Batman voice* Judgement

 

[TheOneZR]

Hero Name: Obelisk, because of yu gi oh by Seto Kaiba

Its no monster, its a god

Fuck the rules since 1997.

 

[BenoTF25]

Agree, Aglaecwif is insanely powerful. Like, even though Malik’s a beast, he kinda lost some cred after trying to torch Ella and nothing happened. But Aglaecwif? She’s one of the oldest monsters out there, probably millions of years old. Can you imagine the kind of mastery she’s got over her fantasy powers? Honestly, I can’t even picture her losing, no way.

Yeh, while I think Malik without the need to restrict himself for the sake of his allies would probably murk Ella(and even then, she's one of the best Superhumans around, resilience being one of her perks with that new ability of hers to stop her body from "changing"), since he just has that much of a wild output and according to WW even other abilities on the level of Sun birth, Aglaecwif is on a level of her own, iirc, WeirdWorld during his stream of the power tier list, struggled between putting her on the 'Perfect' category(in which the Trio is) or beneath, and even then, he seemed unsure, she's a Monster(huh)

 

[dragonlord6789]

Considering the fact that Ella was able to push back Nico who is considered the strongest lieutenant barring Henry, I think it's safe to say she is stronger than most if not all lieutenants, again barring henry, making her the sixth or seventh strongest superhuman on the planet. When you consider all of that, and malik still rapidly figures out the rules of her shifting trick, and nearly curb stomps her, I think it's safe to say any battle he fights against a potential peer will likely be all kinds of explosive.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Do you guys think those fingers will ever have a role in the story? We have seen two so far. One was given to the MC by Shadow as thanks, and it was the reason Shadow could think and speak. The other belonged to Alice's father, he bought from a strange man (most likely the shopkeep) I hope there's a unique story behind that.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Do you guys think those fingers will ever have a role in the story? We have seen two so far. One was given to the MC by Shadow as thanks, and it was the reason Shadow could think and speak. The other belonged to Alice's father, he bought from a strange man (most likely the shopkeep) I hope there's a unique story behind that.

Probably. We know there are other fossils that are important. If the MC takes the stone orb from Ella, he senses that it (and presumably the others she's been collecting) is a fossilized...something, he can't tell what. And Dexter and Xanthe have made reference to a fossil that they implied to be the most dangerous thing in H.E.R.O.'s possession. If these other monster fossils are going to be significant, I figure that the finger fossils will at least get explained along the way, even if they turn out to not matter much themselves.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Probably. We know there are other fossils that are important. If the MC takes the stone orb from Ella, he senses that it (and presumably the others she's been collecting) is a fossilized...something, he can't tell what. And Dexter and Xanthe have made reference to a fossil that they implied to be the most dangerous thing in H.E.R.O.'s possession. If these other monster fossils are going to be significant, I figure that the finger fossils will at least get explained along the way, even if they turn out to not matter much themselves.

Yeah, I just hope those fingers are related to entities other than the monsters/apostles.
I also hope that with the 1.0 remake, WW can add an inventory. Even if we can't interact with it, just seeing the items with a small description would be cool.

 

[johndqdo]

You guys have no idea how much I wanted this game to go mainstream.

I want to watch theory videos, gameplay content, and react to it all on YouTube. I want to browse Reddit and see new memes almost every day. I want to see fanart of the original monsters. I want to read fanfics.

Speaking of fanfics... just imagine the community coming up with gems like:

• What if the MC was swapped with X?
• What if the monster world invaded the universe of Y? (Games, anime, comics...)
• What if Z (a character from an anime, game, etc.) was in this world?