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Bleh21

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No I didn't and I think its understandable if I didn't read the rest of your post when you're pointing out your issue come's from you poorly interpreting what someone says.



The qualities the MC had as a male, a short virgin, are generally not considered unappealing qualities in a female, it was that simple and again this is not my giving my opinion, I don't care if a mans short or a virgin, I think you would at least acknowledge how common insults are for men based on those 2 qualities.
I don't think being a virgin at his age is an insult or unappealing. Its entirely understandable. And actual normal women who wants a relationship would actually be happy you are a virgin at that age.

And yes men and women look different and so they are attracted to different bodyshapes. Generally looks wise, women have infinitely higher standards though. Women won't care that you're short if you're charismatic or rich or both.

But I guess in the autistically hyperspecific reading of your words, those insults are indeed used more for men.

You should read more. Specifically where I say while there are differences. Man and Woman have a lot of traits in common that are desirable and undesirable. And sleeping around like a "fuckboy" in man's case is not a desirable quality in any relationship, man or woman.
 
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Storm_13

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I don’t know, my game ends in the same place as six months ago, where the main character defeats the leader of the sect. I hope I haven't missed anything, or is it the same for everyone...? By the way, this is the first time I've seen a porn game where the plot and combat itself are more interesting than the porn content itself, Marvel nervously smoke on the sidelines :cool:
 
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KingAgamemnon

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I don’t know, my game ends in the same place as six months ago, where the main character defeats the leader of the sect. I hope I haven't missed anything, or is it the same for everyone...? By the way, this is the first time I've seen a porn game where the plot and combat itself are more interesting than the porn content itself, Marvel nervously smoke on the sidelines :cool:
It most certainly did not end there six months ago because six months ago the most recent update had ended with Michael getting knocked into the sky.

Once you beat the sect leader, you've reached the end of content for the current version.
 

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By the way, this is the first time I've seen a porn game where the plot and combat itself are more interesting than the porn content itself, Marvel nervously smoke on the sidelines :cool:
There are a few of them on this website. I believe The Last Sovereign had a poll at a time about how many players skipped the H scenes to go back to the plot
 
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So my post was removed for Advertising/Spam which whatever, it doesn't even make sense but whatever.

And you guys are still discussing some shitty argument with no start nor end about something that has no real objective view.

Man, I gotta turn down my brain for this thread sometimes
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And I'm legally required not to elaborate any further, sorry :(
 

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So my post was removed for Advertising/Spam which whatever, it doesn't even make sense but whatever.

And you guys are still discussing some shitty argument with no start nor end about something that has no real objective view.

Man, I gotta turn down my brain for this thread sometimes
The guys are arguing about whether a woman is a slut for having sex with lots of men, but a man isn't, on an adult website, in a game where we can have sex with a dead woman and monsters, extremely sexy monsters, hot monsters with big dicks.

I just hope they're not taking it too seriously.

Do what I do, I have a saved game for any possible outcome, whether as a hero, a murderer, very corrupt, or slightly corrupt, an alpha male, or a cock-crazy slut

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gotmy223

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OK. I'm on day 153. I'm training with Ella Doll, and she just reminded the MC that he joined her orphanage (or at least her group of kids) for a little while when he ran away from home. The first thought I had while I'm reading this is:

"HOW THE HELL DID HE FORGET THIS!!!"

This happened after his mother had died and locked away some of his memories. The MC himself has stated numerous times that everything after his mother's death he remembers just fine. Hell, he's the one that mentioned (early in the story) that he ran away. Yet he forgot where he ran to, and what he did/who he met during that time?

Does this get explained later? Because it feels like a convenient plot point.
 
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OK. I'm on day 153. I'm training with Ella Doll, and she just reminded the MC that he joined her orphanage (or at least her group of kids) for a little while when he ran away from home. The first thought I had while I'm reading this is:

"HOW THE HELL DID HE FORGET THIS!!!"

This happened after his mother had died and locked away some of his memories. The MC himself has stated numerous times that everything after his mother's death he remembers just fine. Hell, he's the one that mentioned (early in the story) that he ran away. Yet he forgot where he ran to, and what he did/who he met during that time?

Does this get explained later? Because it feels like a convenient plot point.
Not yet, no. It's strange. The fact that it's apparently unconnected to the other blocks that were put on his memory, and so subtle that he couldn't even tell it happened when the other gaps were clear, suggests that those memories are somehow very important. But what importance they have is yet to be revealed, even though Ella could just tell him what they talked about during that time. God, Ella's secretiveness is the worst. If you're so certain that if the MC knew what you know, he'd be on your side, just tell him already.
 

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OK. I'm on day 153. I'm training with Ella Doll, and she just reminded the MC that he joined her orphanage (or at least her group of kids) for a little while when he ran away from home. The first thought I had while I'm reading this is:

"HOW THE HELL DID HE FORGET THIS!!!"

This happened after his mother had died and locked away some of his memories. The MC himself has stated numerous times that everything after his mother's death he remembers just fine. Hell, he's the one that mentioned (early in the story) that he ran away. Yet he forgot where he ran to, and what he did/who he met during that time?

Does this get explained later? Because it feels like a convenient plot point.
From what I remember, it was explained earlier from MC's pov, during the Deryl flashbacks, I think. He was wearing bandages and couldn't see for a while when he ran away. Knowing how Ella likes to pretend she's super mysterious, she probably never even told him her name during that period of time. So MC remembers going to the faculty or whatever, but couldn't see anyone's face and wouldn't remember Ella. She also slipped on that bit after Minyak fight with Tiffany. Saying MC used to wear bandages too. Like Eliot or whatever the kid name is.

Also, are we really surprised by how slow MC is at this point? He definitely gets it from his mother.
 

gotmy223

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Not yet, no. It's strange. The fact that it's apparently unconnected to the other blocks that were put on his memory, and so subtle that he couldn't even tell it happened when the other gaps were clear, suggests that those memories are somehow very important. But what importance they have is yet to be revealed, even though Ella could just tell him what they talked about during that time. God, Ella's secretiveness is the worst. If you're so certain that if the MC knew what you know, he'd be on your side, just tell him already.
To me, Ella is starting to fell like she exists as a character mainly as a means to conveniently (and artificially) add mystery and intrigue to the story; by having her be needlessly vague about EVERYTHING. LOL!
 

KingAgamemnon

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Yeah, as good as this game is to play, it definitely showcases some faults in WW's writing ability. Pacing can be weird, sometimes he fails to set-up stuff in advance, and Ella being unnecessarily vague are all symptoms of his authorial inexperience. It's still enjoyable, but not as good as it could be.
 
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That's a common thing in stories though, be it movies or books
True but in those stories it's usually explained why character(s) are being vague or keeping crucial information close at hand but it's not really the case with ella (i believe it will change closer to the end of this game though) Ella knows EVERYHTING and clearly knows things that could help the MC who she says she cares a great deal about and the only reason she doesn't is because A. it's convenient for the story to have a slowburn mystery surrounding the eldritch lore and B. Ella is a wishy-washy asshole who does half the things she does for the LOLS (or at least is smart enough to pretend that's what she's doing)
 

DefaultNK

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True but in those stories it's usually explained why character(s) are being vague or keeping crucial information close at hand but it's not really the case with ella (i believe it will change closer to the end of this game though) Ella knows EVERYHTING and clearly knows things that could help the MC who she says she cares a great deal about and the only reason she doesn't is because A. it's convenient for the story to have a slowburn mystery surrounding the eldritch lore and B. Ella is a wishy-washy asshole who does half the things she does for the LOLS (or at least is smart enough to pretend that's what she's doing)
There's also option C, in which Ella is a known manipulator who ultimately does not have the MC's best interests at heart.
 

OnlyNeverNow

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I get being irritated at a character for keeping secrets, but I don't feel like it's narratively artificial for the Ella doll to be doing so.

Even ignoring the fact that Ella is a manipulative cunt who loves fucking with people, I think she's probably concerned that MC is not in the right headspace to talk about his time with proto-SIN or whatever.

MC was probably in a bad place, having run away from home after his mom died, and I bet he did some morally dubious things with them. Just telling him "hey, once upon a time you were really into this SIN stuff, wanna join up again?" is very different from MC actually having experienced the emotions and memories that led him to want to join SIN in the first place.

She's probably concerned that without those memories, he'd just reject the idea completely. There's also the fact that the Ella doll still doesn't have any idea what Big Ella was really up to, for all she knows, she might not even want MC to remember anymore.
 
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