KingWeWuz

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Slut porn and prostitution is NOT ntr and yes the protagonist has to give a shit (either liking or disliking) for it to be cuckolding, in this case he does not.
So if you had a wife and she cheated on you and you didn't care, does this mean you were not cucked?
The girls are neither Billy's loved ones nor are they "taken" away so by your own definition it is not ntr.
You know what I meant and I really don't care to argue semantics.
 
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Baal7734

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You can keep trying to enforce your definition of NTR, but since your completely wrong on said definition, any arguement you have using your incorrect definition will fall flat. NTR requires betrayal. There's no Betrayal in my game. Cuckolding & NTR requires a committed relationship. There's no committed relationship in my game.
 
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Baal7734

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It may not matter to you, because you don't like either kink, but it does matter to some. Some people like Bimbofication (which is in my game) but do not like NTR (which is not in my game). Some people like NTR (which is not in my game) but don't like bimbofication(which is in my game). Just because you like neither, doesn't mean you get to lump them all under a single word/term. ESPECIALLY on an adult site that caters to numerous different types of kink. If you don't know what a word means...don't use it. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT NTR MEANS. Stop using it incorrectly.
 

Baal7734

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How about you take your opinion, acknowledge it's just your opinion, and stop caring so much what my opinion is?
Because you are wrong. You are claiming my game has content that it does not have. NTR has been defined for over two decades now as the cheating of a significant other. My game has no significant other. This is not my opinion. This is a deffinition of the term.
 

Baal7734

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Having your own defintion of words is always a compelling arguement. As is blocking someone and sticking your fingers in your ears. Not that this ever was an arguement. There is no argueing someone using a word incorrectly. They either are using it correctly or not. Buh bye.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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It's been quite a while since I lat played this.
My original plan was to wait until Chelsea was completed... But that isn't going to be any time soon.
I may have to amend my plan.
 

iiRise

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Yikes, this is just sad, you have a Dev who is 50% right behaving like a child, and some spoilt brat who is also kind of right arguing on a forum made for adult games, If you dont like the Game dont play it, if you're a Dev dont feed the trolls, its pretty easy.
 
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h4xoor

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Yikes, this is just sad, you have a Dev who is 50% right behaving like a child, and some spoilt brat who is also kind of right arguing on a forum made for adult games, If you dont like the Game dont play it, if you're a Dev dont feed the trolls, its pretty easy.
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Everybody has his own opinion which is fine, dont try to force it on other people, play the game if you enjoy it, find another if you dont like it, fortunately there are only gazillion of games without <insert a kink you are not into>

I just cant understand why people have to force their own ideal on everybody else and ruin a thread/conversations with these arguments.
 
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Baal7734

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This game needs aunt and some cousins
It's in the long term plan.

Yikes, this is just sad, you have a Dev who is 50% right behaving like a child, and some spoilt brat who is also kind of right arguing on a forum made for adult games, If you dont like the Game dont play it, if you're a Dev dont feed the trolls, its pretty easy.
But what if I'm the troll. :unsure:

+1

Everybody has his own opinion which is fine, dont try to force it on other people, play the game if you enjoy it, find another if you dont like it, fortunately there are only gazillion of games without <insert a kink you are not into>

I just cant understand why people have to force their own ideal on everybody else and ruin a thread/conversations with these arguments.
It's not my opinion. NTR is short for Netorare. Netorare is a slang term for unfaithful wife. It's a very specific genre. This is a matter of fact, not opinion. Claiming all adult games with non MC centric sex is NTR is the same as claiming all masochist porn is trampeling porn. Which is wrong. People that like masochist porn may enjoy trampeling porn, but people that like trampeling porn may not like all masochist porn. Deffinitions matter if labels/tags are to be useful. It'd be more useful/beneficial for forum dialogue if the people that incorrectly use the term NTR, came up with a new term for non MC centric sex, rather using a term that already has a deffinition.
 

Foobert

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Anyone having difficulty getting Tamara to sign up? I've got her favor love and lust at 100 and I haven't stalked her to the point of combat. But I'm still not getting the lunchtime event for some reason.
 

sillyrobot

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Anyone having difficulty getting Tamara to sign up? I've got her favor love and lust at 100 and I haven't stalked her to the point of combat. But I'm still not getting the lunchtime event for some reason.
Start tutoring her on Mondays. Her invitation isn't a lunchtime event, it's at the end of a tutoring session. Make sure you finish the school day at the school when the invite appears.
 

Foobert

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Start tutoring her on Mondays. Her invitation isn't a lunchtime event, it's at the end of a tutoring session. Make sure you finish the school day at the school when the invite appears.
Just did that. No dice. Tutored her twice, just to make sure. Is there a random element involved?
 

sillyrobot

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Just did that. No dice. Tutored her twice, just to make sure. Is there a random element involved?
I think so as there is on much of the content, but I am not certain. I didn't stop to check if she always asks after reaching a threshold or not.

Tamara is a problem for many people. That was an impetus for me writing a guide, actually. It took a few playthroughs even after reading other guides to get her acceptance consistently.
 

Foobert

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Tamara is a problem for many people. That was an impetus for me writing a guide, actually. It took a few playthroughs even after reading other guides to get her acceptance consistently.
I just looked her up in your walkthrough. Is the meeting her downtown event a fairly recent addition? I seem to recall it as meet her at lunch/buy her a pair of boots/bump into her in the hall the next day/get her to join.

I did get a prompt to "meet Tamara downtown" and she did indeed run off, and I must admit, I thought the "investigate Tamara" events had glitched. I didn't get an apology or a follow up though.

I guess it's looking like she's borked for this run through. No big deal
 

sillyrobot

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I just looked her up in your walkthrough. Is the meeting her downtown event a fairly recent addition? I seem to recall it as meet her at lunch/buy her a pair of boots/bump into her in the hall the next day/get her to join.

I did get a prompt to "meet Tamara downtown" and she did indeed run off, and I must admit, I thought the "investigate Tamara" events had glitched. I didn't get an apology or a follow up though.

I guess it's looking like she's borked for this run through. No big deal
It's not new. There is a second set of interactions with Tamara where you can meet at lunch and occasionally (as in I've never seen a pattern) decide to skip school with her and go shopping. AFAICT that is completely unrelated to advancing her joining the club. Its a way to buy Favor with her since keeping her Favor up can be difficult if you use her help on missions.

You'll only get the apology if you go with her at the end of that school day. Effectively, she gets a better offer half-way downtown and dumps you for a 'family emergency' and feels bad about it. The apology might take a couple of days to happen.

I find the sequence to be pretty brittle with a fair number of gotchas (distracting Freddy to follow her, leaving school early after being offered a date, failing to take the date), and unintuitive triggers (tutor her on Mondays).
 

DD0

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This game was my introduction to the community and the first thing I ever funded on Patreon. I dropped it a whie back and stopped funding shortly thereafter. Curiosity as to how it's been doing brought me back.
I get that this is one of the few truly ambitious projects, but the progress doesn't seem much. Additionally, animation has become something of a standard for most Renpy games and I see signs that grind is slowly losing favor. Some of the aniumation is even decent nowadays!
Nothing I've read on the past few pages convinces me that changes like that or other qol stuff are in the pipeline. To be fair, that could very well mean starting over, which this dev already did once IIRC. Also to be fair, plenty of devs would have quit or called this complete with a few powers and much fewer girls. Some of this game would be sequels for other developers.
I'm gonna dl for old times sake, but doubt I'll be tempted to fund again. It is nice to see the ridiculous mountain of mods have been effectively merged. I wish Baal the best, and will happily follow any forthcoming projects that are a bit modernized.
 
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