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sillyrobot

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I have usually seen content similar to what SuperPowered has referred to as 'sharing', and that is how I typically describe it when "NTR" comes up.

I do not know what percentage of paying customers (or potential ones) complain about "NTR", or whether it is worth sinking time for a solution. (I suspect 'few' and 'no'.) However, I feel such a concern would best be served by a setting (which would be a hard on/off switch applied in seconds) rather than the best current solution of applying "Wild Oats" to each character individually (which takes minutes to hours if the player even knows it is an option).
There is a solution already in game. Once you have the Mind Control power, you can negate a subject's ability to screw around with the 'Wild Oats' effect. It costs a long-term slot per subject, but is 100% effective.
 

khumak

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I have usually seen content similar to what SuperPowered has referred to as 'sharing', and that is how I typically describe it when "NTR" comes up.

I do not know what percentage of paying customers (or potential ones) complain about "NTR", or whether it is worth sinking time for a solution. (I suspect 'few' and 'no'.) However, I feel such a concern would best be served by a setting (which would be a hard on/off switch applied in seconds) rather than the best current solution of applying "Wild Oats" to each character individually (which takes minutes to hours if the player even knows it is an option).
I'm not sure the official definition matches how most people think of it. There are several threads arguing about what it really means that never really reach a difinitive conclusion. To me it just means that women that the MC is interested in are having sex with someone else. Presumably that would also apply to males if the main character was female. Drilling down further to whether it's MC likes it, whether he knows about it or not, whether it involves an element of humiliation, etc is IMO just getting down to too much detail for the tag to really be useful anymore.
 
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T.Geiger

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I'm not sure the official definition matches how most people think of it.
Allowing a specific word to take on wider connotations also means it loses usefulness.

For example, a "creampie" orginally was vaginal only. Then it was also used for anal (and is now only occasionally specified as "anal creampie"). And later, ejaculating into the mouth was also added (really now, just what the hell even is a "throat creampie", the girl isn't swallowing a camera for us to see down her neck). On a hunch, I did a search for "external creampie". And sure enough, it is a thing (pulling out, if you are wondering).

Pretty much the only thing these videos have in common is semen. The term is nigh on totally useless.

If you find that a word does not mean exactly what you thought, please change your expectations.
 
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Baal7734

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There is a single NTR-event where you have to watch your Mother getting fucked by random disco guys.
Jumping in the middle of a conversation, without reading the entire conversation makes you look like you have special needs.
No offense...but...scroll up.


Allowing a specific word to take on wider connotations also means it loses usefulness.

For example, a "creampie" orginally was vaginal only. Then it was also used for anal (and is now only occasionally specified as "anal creampie"). And later, ejaculating into the mouth was also added (really now, just what the hell even is a "throat creampie", the girl isn't swallowing a camera for us to see down her neck). On a hunch, I did a search for "external creampie". And sure enough, it is a thing (pulling out, if you are wondering).

Pretty much the only thing these videos have in common is semen. The term is nigh on totally useless.

If you find that a word does not mean exactly what you thought, please change your expectations.
That's kind of my point. The tag is useless, because many people have different deffinitions of the term. Including Devs. Some Devs use NTR for all sex that isn't centered on the main character. Some Devs use the tag specifically with characters the Main character is intrested in, having sex with others. And then of course there's the Netorare devs, that are doing what they've been doing for years. If they start using a different term, rather than destroying (Not taking a wider connotation: Sorry but, a Netorare fan isn't gonna find anything useful to thier intrests in the NTR tag) an already used tag, it ensures more specificity.
 

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Enough about NTR, there's nothing left to be said about it in this games that has not been discussed a hundred times. We have a very specific definition of NTR that does not apply here, we don't care about your definition and how much someone else's pp touching your 2d waifu hurts your feelings.
  • Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
 

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Enough about NTR, there's nothing left to be said about it in this games that has not been discussed a hundred times. We have a very specific definition of NTR that does not apply here, we don't care about your definition and how much someone else's pp touching your 2d waifu hurts your feelings.
  • Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
Would you at least consider making a new tag then? The whole point of the tags is to help people find and steer clear of certain fetishes. And clearly there is a desire for many to do so as it relates to Sharing/Non-Centric-Sex/NTR (no ntr mod for this game for example had 115 likes, reoccurring topic in every game thread, etc). It seems a little weird to opt to ridicule such people for not liking this particular fetish instead of just compromising on a new tag which would help inform and satisfy everyone.
 
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sillyrobot

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I was wondering when is the best time to instill fear in this game ??
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Fear becomes a great source of energy after you acquire Psychosism. I tend to keep the aura off and turn it on in battle, but I can easily see a play style that leaves it on and uses Feast of Fear continually.
 

Dependable_223

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Fear becomes a great source of energy after you acquire Psychosism. I tend to keep the aura off and turn it on in battle, but I can easily see a play style that leaves it on and uses Feast of Fear continually.
Yes i am currently trying to role play but their are so many powers some work really well together some has side effects i was trying to prevent. Is their currently a way to use the wild oats part and still keeping their willpower low and not having them turn into some drone where you are unable to talk to them ?? Does the control of your subject is this what makes them unable to talk you ??
 

sillyrobot

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Yes i am currently trying to role play but their are so many powers some work really well together some has side effects i was trying to prevent. Is their currently a way to use the wild oats part and still keeping their willpower low and not having them turn into some drone where you are unable to talk to them ?? Does the control of your subject is this what makes them unable to talk you ??
If your control is higher than willpower then their personality is suppressed.

Why are you keeping their willpower low? My basic strategy is to turn (almost) everyone into Workers who refresh 50 Control a day and pretty much never worry about Willpower again unless I'm trying to replace a permanent link.
 
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Snugglepuff

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Would you at least consider making a new tag then? The whole point of the tags is to help people find and steer clear of certain fetishes. And clearly there is a desire for many to do so as it relates to Sharing/Non-Centric-Sex/NTR (no ntr mod for this game for example had 115 likes, reoccurring topic in every game thread, etc). It seems a little weird to opt to ridicule such people for not liking this particular fetish instead of just compromising on a new tag which would help inform and satisfy everyone.
What part of the following did you not understand?


Enough about NTR, there's nothing left to be said about it in this games that has not been discussed a hundred times. We have a very specific definition of NTR that does not apply here, we don't care about your definition and how much someone else's pp touching your 2d waifu hurts your feelings.
  • Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
 
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Snugglepuff

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Strategy in a porn a game is rad.
Slight tangent from discussing the game, but my favourite porn games available here are generally those that work as games in their own right, or with stories and/or characters that are well written.
In the case of this game, bizarrely enough I've been more interested in some of the characters beyond their imagery since the introduction of character fetishes. Mainly because it expands on the character themselves, their history and personality.

In a somewhat twisted kind of way I also like that it also manages to delve into a more in-depth exploration or super powers and super powered individuals in a somewhat more "mature" way (beyond simply super-porn) that's typically reserved for genre satire and parody.
Super powers with side effects, and how they change a person mentally, are shown with Billy and the associated flaws/fetishes gained with each power, but also how it affects the people around him (if we don't use them to make changes to the people).

It seems like the kind of setting/"story" that would work well within the upcoming Amazon series Bad Boys, or even within Watchmen to a certain extent.
 

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Yes i am currently trying to role play but their are so many powers some work really well together some has side effects i was trying to prevent. Is their currently a way to use the wild oats part and still keeping their willpower low and not having them turn into some drone where you are unable to talk to them ?? Does the control of your subject is this what makes them unable to talk you ??
Low willpower is useful to safe energy when you want to use certain powers and I think it affects the chances to get certain states of mental illnesses. To my knowledge there is no need to keep willpower at a constant low though. Control and willpower balance determines if a character becomes a "zombie". E.g. the higher your control value the more willpower you need for them to stay "normal".
Sillyrobot's advice is also spot on.

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Also, all my girls fear me just enough to still talk to me but also let me handle them the hard way if I want to. And if need be I suck the fear out of them to get some good amount of energy. Very useful power.
 
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Regardie

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So all of Billy's powers come with some side effects that are not always beneficial. Has there been a way to discover the side effects of the other super powered people he encounters? I know we have been working on the school to get that part of the game finished, but going forward, a mechanism for discovery and exploitation of the flaws of other super beings would be quite handy.
 
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