There's no incest patch, you use the various powers.Just started for the first time, I was wondering if you ever get to do stuff with the mother, all the options say eww you're related so I'm trying to figure out if there is a patch or something to allow it?
Well, if you're not that far into the game and start wondering where his sister is, you need to pick her as a perk during character creation so a new start might be in order. There are ways using the console but a couple times through the beginning will teach you a lot about the game. Then we can discuss some of the mods that will take some of the grind out. Have fun!Thanks, just trying it out blindly the first time, wanted to make sure it was an option.
incest needs to unlocked by taking the mind control power. the sister is to young to interact sexualy with, you need to take a power thats enabling "hebebiphilia", but i forgot which and im too lazy to look it up.Just started for the first time, I was wondering if you ever get to do stuff with the mother, all the options say eww you're related so I'm trying to figure out if there is a patch or something to allow it?
Sympathic Link. For the sister, you need both it and Mind Control.incest needs to unlocked by taking the mind control power. the sister is to young to interact sexualy with, you need to take a power thats enabling "hebebiphilia", but i forgot which and im too lazy to look it up.
That's less a no-NTR and more a MC-won't-see-hetero-sex-he's-not-in mod. Billy has no SO that can be unfaithful/used. He creates a bunch of bimbo-sluts he might like to play with. -- or not as the case might be. It's entirely possible to create bimbo-sluts out of family before becoming incestuously interested, for example.Wait how can a game with no NTR have had a Avoiding NTR mod for so long? People are really starting to try to find loopholes just to avoid the label. It's fine to include NTR in it but lets not mislead people. Fetishes are not for everyone and this one can be incredibly offputting to some.
I don't really agree with the premise that this isn't NTR (meanings change, understandably so when moving from third person mangas to first person games). But without delving into that whole can of worms, I think everyone can agree that any clear warning is better than no warning given the clear polarizing nature.There is a small group of people on this site, that were misinformed about the definition of NTR and, continue to use it incorrectly even though this incorrect usage causes a lot of confusion for fans of hentai, that were around when the actual deffinition of the term was coined. The no NTR mod works...regardless of if you install the mod or not
Here's a suggested term to alleviate confusion:
Non-Centric-Sex (NCS for short): A genre of adult content that involves sex between characters that are not the main character. Examples of NCS content would include: Slutification, Bimbofication, Orgies, NTR, Cuckoldry, Gangbangs(unless the person being gangbanged is the main character)
Maybe we should try pushing this tag, to replace the incorrectly used NTR tag.
On the other side of that coin, the meaning of NTR has not changed throughout the world, mostly just on this site, and a few sites like it. You can't go to a porn shop and browse thier NTR section(unless you're in japan, in which case you'll find Netorare). If someone that likes NTR(Netorare) plays a game labeled on this site as NTR, they may be annoyed that said game does not contain NTR as they understand it to be. My issue with the NTR tag has always been a matter of mislabeling, not the issue some people have with Non-Centric-Sex. Because...well...that's their issue, not mine. It is a mislabel to say NTR is in my game. I'm fine with an NCS label, since that deffinitely is in my game. I agree a warning is better than none, but since there isn't a warning to NTR fans that there isn't any Netorare in the game, well...the best solution is to use NCS(or another term).I don't really agree with the premise that this isn't NTR (meanings change, understandably so when moving from third person mangas to first person games). But without delving into that whole can of worms, I think everyone can agree that regardless of what you call it, any clear warning is better than no warning given the clear polarizing nature. As it is now, people that see this as NTR are greeted with what is to them surprise NTR. So disagreements aside their frustration should be understandable. Such a compromise that won't affect the game's vision would go a long way into not seeing this reoccurring topic pop up so regularly.
I agree with you that outside such circles, ntr can often have of a different more specific meaning. However given that this game operates mostly in the places in question, wouldn't it perhaps be more appropriate to label it as such until a more appropriate label is found?On the other side of that coin, the meaning of NTR has not changed throughout the world, mostly just on this site, and a few sites like it. You can't go to a porn shop and browse thier NTR section(unless you're in japan, in which case you'll find Netorare). If someone that likes NTR(Netorare) plays a game labeled on this site as NTR, they may be annoyed that said game does not contain NTR as they understand it to be. My issue with the NTR tag has always been a matter of mislabeling, not the issue some people have with Non-Centric-Sex. Because...well...that's their issue, not mine. It is a mislabel to say NTR is in my game. I'm fine with an NCS label, since that deffinitely is in my game. I agree a warning is better than none, but since there isn't a warning to NTR fans that there isn't any Netorare in the game, well...the best solution is to use NCS(or another term).
Let me also add that they like to troll with it as the whole subject is so loaded that it then creates flame wars through the site, and has happened on other game threads where ops needed to go in and squash things.There is a small group of people on this site, that were misinformed about the definition of NTR and, continue to use it incorrectly even though this incorrect usage causes a lot of confusion for fans of hentai, that were around when the actual deffinition of the term was coined.
I have usually seen content similar to what SuperPowered has referred to as 'sharing', and that is how I typically describe it when "NTR" comes up.Non-Centric-Sex
There is a solution already in game. Once you have the Mind Control power, you can negate a subject's ability to screw around with the 'Wild Oats' effect. It costs a long-term slot per subject, but is 100% effective.I have usually seen content similar to what SuperPowered has referred to as 'sharing', and that is how I typically describe it when "NTR" comes up.
I do not know what percentage of paying customers (or potential ones) complain about "NTR", or whether it is worth sinking time for a solution. (I suspect 'few' and 'no'.) However, I feel such a concern would best be served by a setting (which would be a hard on/off switch applied in seconds) rather than the best current solution of applying "Wild Oats" to each character individually (which takes minutes to hours if the player even knows it is an option).
And if you'll look at your quote.There is a solution already...