Ren'Py Completed SuperPowered [v0.45.02] [Night City Productions]

[Levant]

damit i forget to talk about you statement with walkthrough
dont follow them most WT min-max stats
use them as quest helper if you want and that it

 

[User #1751331]

tacm wait.wait.wait.wait.wait waht? no choice?
ok let us make that senario with Derek and Sandra

if you make derek a goalkeeper he just joins your club no bonus favor for him +no "special pics"
if you make Sandra Dereks girl he joins your club and gets you favor for him +"special pics"

that the difference
and yes you have the choice

I said you have no choice to avoid that scene. You have no way to avoid the part of listening to him and even walking back to her.
I want the option to tell sorry she mine. Or better sorry, I'm not Hitch and if you aren't even man enough to walk up to a woman and say your interested rather than acting like a creeper as you are right now I don't want you in the club.
In short even considering it or walking back with that as an option is crap.

Even the author of the game states clearly in the Walkthrough that path of making him a goal keeper is a shit path.

Yea, I remember that time super man wanted Aquaman to join the justice league and Aquaman was all down for wonder woman but wouldn't join unless superman hooked him up. Super man being the swell guy he was though yea that's ok at least Aquaman will join the justice league then and I won't have to get my tights wet when there is a mission at sea now. It's just one girl I got others.
You know come to think of it that was Batman, or ...

 

[User #1751331]

damit i forget to talk about you statement with walkthrough
dont follow them most WT min-max stats
use them as quest helper if you want and that it

I went to the walk through trying to find away to avoid it entirely. Frankly the only option to avoid it is just not do any of the stuff related to Derek which means the club part becomes a total no go. Hell just using the soccer path ends up crippling it.

 

[Levant]

tacm so let me make it clear for me
you dont like making sandra dereks girl
and you dont like making derek play soccer
did i got it right ?

Yea, I remember that time super man wanted Aquaman to join the justice league and Aquaman was all down for wonder woman but wouldn't join unless superman hooked him up. Super man being the swell guy he was though yea that's ok at least Aquaman will join the justice league then and I won't have to get my tights wet when there is a mission at sea now. It's just one girl I got others.
You know come to think of it that was Batman, or ...

i have absolute zero plan waht you are talking about


P.S.
and i dont think the football path cripple it i always do football path
so who should I believe you who says it cripples or my self who plays that path ....... (is just my opinion)

 

[User #1751331]

tacm so let me make it clear for me
you dont like making sandra dereks girl
and you dont like making derek play soccer
did i got it right ?


i have absolute zero plan waht you are talking about


P.S.
and i dont think the football path cripple it i always do football path
so who should I believe you who says it cripples or my self who plays that path ....... (is just my opinion)

No. You don't have it right. There are two different issues.
The first issue is Primarily about how you treat friends. That's about 75% of the issue for me. I would never even walked back over there to her in real life. It would a strait up nope not doing it. Press the issue you are going to get hurt. The secondary part is I hate sharing. I won't share a woman at any level. I'm not talking about she can't go to a job or any crap like that. I just mean she starts a physical or emotional relationship with another man I'll have nothing to do with them.

The soccer path would be fine if it was an equal path to make use of. The author doesn't want people to use and wants to impose his choice on the player.
So he only puts out a half ass alternative to say you have a choice but its not as good to discourage people from using it.
If I wanted that I would read a book or watch a movie.

Here is something you might not have paid attention to. Why is he starting this club? He remarks its about providing away for others to keep doing what he is doing when he is gone. So he's doing it for the sake of other people. Doesn't exactly fit the shit bag character it takes to be the BuddyFucker he acts as there.
So he wants to help protect these people but in the same turn he doesn't see the issue with fucking his female friend over and putting her in a spot. A spot mind you she could get hurt. This guy is clearly upset with shit. He doesn't know him from a bump on a log and he's going to stick her out there to fend for herself on a date. I can't say shit bag asshole loud enough on that crap.

The author of the game who made the comment in the walkthrough.
"For those dead-set against having Derek date Sandra, there is another route to have him join. After talking with him at lunch, meet with the principal and discuss letting Derek join the soccer team. It requires a large favor on her part. This route is less optimal in that the methods to gain future favor with Derek are more limited. "

 

[Levant]

The first issue is Primarily about how you treat friends.

i understand that part but as i say it is you the player who choose to treat them so
i mean way do you choose to fuck them you could only increase favor and wold normal friends and good is
you can play the game without becoming FWB to any girl

example:
in my main save i dont touch Nikki so not a FWB just a friend
thats means i dont increase love, lust, corrupt or make her bi
only favor (i think) and thats what you need to do normal things with any chara
i mean im her wingmann wenn she hits on the barista girl so yeah you can totally play as normal friend to the girls

that what i choose to do
do i lose H-pics
yes. yes i do
either way you cant get all the H-pics in one gameplay
so you as the play need to choose which H-pics you wand to see first

I would never even walked back over there to her in real life

than do that you dont need to inter act with sandra
you can play the game quite well without inter act with Sandra
but you the play choose to inter act with sandra

secondary part is I hate sharing

than dont do it
than choose not to corrupt or mindbrack here to nympho so she dont become a slut and fuck everything and anything

The soccer path would be fine if it was an equal path

it is equal

Here is something you might not have paid attention to. Why is he starting this club? He remarks its about providing away for others to keep doing what he is doing when he is gone. So he's doing it for the sake of other people. Doesn't exactly fit the shit bag character it takes to be the BuddyFucker he acts as there.

about that statement
you are right and Wrong pls allow me to explain
1. he starts the clube not so he can provide for others to keep doing somthing (that is a bonus)
he does it because the starting plan from the school has big flaws
as he says to the principal "a solution to here problem"
2. it is for his owen career so he can say i help create a alternative to.....
(just a normal hero behavior so they can say i make the world a better place)
3. to do hero stuffe and be a small hero
(dont forget you are also right but im right to)

So he wants to help protect these people but in the same turn he doesn't see the issue with fucking his female friend over and putting her in a spot. A spot mind you she could get hurt. This guy is clearly upset with shit. He doesn't know him from a bump on a log and he's going to stick her out there to fend for herself on a date. I can't say shit bag asshole loud enough on that crap.

as i did say you can play billy as a villain
and it sound like your billy is a gread villain in the making
and derek is not that bad he is just unhappy with his new life and trays to find his way
after all because of his power normal people are afraid of him and he self most likely think he is a monster that can kill with a touch
i mean after joining your club he stops all creepe aktion and becomes a normal dud

meet with the principal and discuss letting Derek join the soccer team. It requires a large favor on her part

thats not true anymore you dont need favor for derek to join the soccer team it was wen the game was 0.19 or so

This route is less optimal in that the methods to gain future favor with Derek are more limited.

again as i did say dont follow WTs use them as quest helpers or so
because that statement is mostly outdated
of course you get more interaktion option wenn he dates sandra but thats it
also you have enough options to get favor from soccer derek



P.S.
oh god what have i done so much to read
tacm i think we should pm each other and dont fill the treat with our talk if that ok with you ?

 

[T.Geiger]

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This bug is from Radioactive. It was fixed last week. Get the updated mod patch.

 

[User #1751331]

i understand that part but as i say it is you the player who choose to treat them so
i mean way do you choose to fuck them you could only increase favor and wold normal friends and good is
you can play the game without becoming FWB to any girl

example:
in my main save i dont touch Nikki so not a FWB just a friend
thats means i dont increase love, lust, corrupt or make her bi
only favor (i think) and thats what you need to do normal things with any chara
i mean im her wingmann wenn she hits on the barista girl so yeah you can totally play as normal friend to the girls

that what i choose to do
do i lose H-pics
yes. yes i do
either way you cant get all the H-pics in one gameplay
so you as the play need to choose which H-pics you wand to see first




than do that you dont need to inter act with sandra
you can play the game quite well without inter act with Sandra
but you the play choose to inter act with sandra





than dont do it
than choose not to corrupt or mindbrack here to nympho so she dont become a slut and fuck everything and anything




it is equal




about that statement
you are right and Wrong pls allow me to explain
1. he starts the clube not so he can provide for others to keep doing somthing (that is a bonus)
he does it because the starting plan from the school has big flaws
as he says to the principal "a solution to here problem"
2. it is for his owen career so he can say i help create a alternative to.....
(just a normal hero behavior so they can say i make the world a better place)
3. to do hero stuffe and be a small hero
(dont forget you are also right but im right to)



as i did say you can play billy as a villain
and it sound like your billy is a gread villain in the making
and derek is not that bad he is just unhappy with his new life and trays to find his way
after all because of his power normal people are afraid of him and he self most likely think he is a monster that can kill with a touch
i mean after joining your club he stops all creepe aktion and becomes a normal dud




thats not true anymore you dont need favor for derek to join the soccer team it was wen the game was 0.19 or so



again as i did say dont follow WTs use them as quest helpers or so
because that statement is mostly outdated
of course you get more interaktion option wenn he dates sandra but thats it
also you have enough options to get favor from soccer derek



P.S.
oh god what have i done so much to read
tacm i think we should pm each other and dont fill the treat with our talk if that ok with you ?

i understand that part but as i say it is you the player who choose to treat them so
i mean way do you choose to fuck them you could only increase favor and wold normal friends and good is
you can play the game without becoming FWB to any girl

example:
in my main save i dont touch Nikki so not a FWB just a friend
thats means i dont increase love, lust, corrupt or make her bi
only favor (i think) and thats what you need to do normal things with any chara
i mean im her wingmann wenn she hits on the barista girl so yeah you can totally play as normal friend to the girls

that what i choose to do
do i lose H-pics
yes. yes i do
either way you cant get all the H-pics in one gameplay
so you as the play need to choose which H-pics you wand to see first




than do that you dont need to inter act with sandra
you can play the game quite well without inter act with Sandra
but you the play choose to inter act with sandra





than dont do it
than choose not to corrupt or mindbrack here to nympho so she dont become a slut and fuck everything and anything




it is equal




about that statement
you are right and Wrong pls allow me to explain
1. he starts the clube not so he can provide for others to keep doing somthing (that is a bonus)
he does it because the starting plan from the school has big flaws
as he says to the principal "a solution to here problem"
2. it is for his owen career so he can say i help create a alternative to.....
(just a normal hero behavior so they can say i make the world a better place)
3. to do hero stuffe and be a small hero
(dont forget you are also right but im right to)



as i did say you can play billy as a villain
and it sound like your billy is a gread villain in the making
and derek is not that bad he is just unhappy with his new life and trays to find his way
after all because of his power normal people are afraid of him and he self most likely think he is a monster that can kill with a touch
i mean after joining your club he stops all creepe aktion and becomes a normal dud




thats not true anymore you dont need favor for derek to join the soccer team it was wen the game was 0.19 or so



again as i did say dont follow WTs use them as quest helpers or so
because that statement is mostly outdated
of course you get more interaktion option wenn he dates sandra but thats it
also you have enough options to get favor from soccer derek



P.S.
oh god what have i done so much to read
tacm i think we should pm each other and dont fill the treat with our talk if that ok with you ?

Ok, going to assume that you are correct on that most of the stuff is outdate because I haven't played past that point.

That said you are wrong on one thing.
You are forced when in the standard version of play when done talking to him you are forced to talk to her. You are given no other options. He walks off with some fucked up line with I'll see what I can do or some crap. The player isn't allowed to make any choice there.

That's what I am bitching about mostly.
I'd rather be loyal to my friend number one. And if I want to work with the person and gain their trust I generally think be honest is the right way to go.
I'd be happy if I could tell him at that point sorry guy I'm not setting you up with her. If there is something else in reason I can do for you well work on that. You said you played soccer what I could get you back on the team.

If something like that existed then it would be reasonable.

 

[Levant]

You are forced when in the standard version of play when done talking to him you are forced to talk to her. You are given no other options. He walks off with some fucked up line with I'll see what I can do or some crap. The player isn't allowed to make any choice there.

i see
but shouldn't you have a last option when you talk to sandra to say no to the deal with derek ?
i cant remember as i did say i dont really do sandra derek roud


can someone help us out
if there is sill a way for tacm to stop sandra becoming dereks GF

 

[User #1751331]

i see
but shouldn't you have a last option when you talk to sandra to say no to the deal with derek ?
i cant remember as i did say i dont really do sandra derek roud


can someone help us out
if there is sill a way for tacm to stop sandra becoming dereks GF

There is still a way to not ask Sandra. However it is as a second thought.

The conversation goes like this essentially
It's part of the Derek line to get him to join the club so unavoidable. Unless you choose not to create the club ...
So you go into the pool area.
Sandra tells you Derek is creeping you out asks to get rid of him +10 favor
You go talk to Derek. Derek so you know tatoos ... do you think you have a shot with her.
Billy: so you come here to check out sandra
Derek: Well mostly... mostly ... Introduce me.
**************This is where billy turns into a buddy fucker and you can't avoid it********************
Billy (Thinks) Hmmmm .... I could maybe use this.....
Billy: I can go talk to her for you, but I want something in return.
Derek: Like what?
Billy: Join the Night City High Defense League
Derek: Your stupid club?
Billy: It's not stupid...
Derek: Whatever man, you get me a date, I'll join.
Billy: No promises on how the date will turn out though...
Derek: Well, no promises on how often I'll show up tot he club meetings.
Billy: And you have to pay attention during our tutor sessions.
Billyeal?
Derek: .... Deal.

Billy goes to Sandra
Sandra: So what does he want?
three choices.
1 I need favor
2 Convince her(Persuasion skill check)
3 Figure out another way.

As you can see there is no way to avoid Billy acting the shit bag buddy fucker.
You only get the option 3 after the fact.

The player should have the choice when dealing with Derek to make the different choice.
Because after that point there is no pretending Billy is any sort of good guy he is a pure shit bag villain for even thinking that way.

If there are supposed to actually be two paths the choice needs to be made at Derek not when he goes talks to her. There should be the option of doing as you promised her and get rid of him run him off.
Or make a different deal with Derek and have the option at derek to play the evil fuck for those who want that.

 

[Levant]

tacm ok but if you choose 3 Figure out another way woulden that mean billy just lip serviced derek ?

remember you can play as a villan so you need to tolerate some scans as lip service or billy trying to deceive someone
after all it is just a game

 

[User #1751331]

tacm ok but if you choose 3 Figure out another way woulden that mean billy just lip serviced derek ?

remember you can play as a villan so you need to tolerate some scans as lip service or billy trying to deceive someone
after all it is just a game

Nope, because of the way it comes up as Billy's thought and context and conversation flow don't fit.
First I am sure we both agree he wants to create the club and he needs Derek.
If Derek was to suspect him of just paying him lip service he would be angry and probably not join the club.

There is more

He could have controlled the conversation easily if it was just lip service.
He could have said, "Sure I'll introduce you, but you join my club and start paying attention in tutorials."
That way the price is made clear.
He doesn't however do that ... He suggest he will talk to her. No specifying what. So he's going to go to bat for him but doesn't list a level but sets his requirement of joining the club.
That's a bartering move where you expect the other person to come back with another term you are trying to draw them out to see what they want or if you can get them on the line for more than what they currently are.

In short Billy out right put her up on the block for auction.

 

[Levant]

tacm yes that way i sayed tolerate as a lip service and not it is a lip service

 

[User #1751331]

tacm yes that way i sayed tolerate as a lip service and not it is a lip service

Well I'd rather the people wanting to play villains tolerate the good guy side.

It's something that should be fairly easily fixable.
Remove the third option off of talking to her.
Create two options when talking to him
those two options
1 Be a Buddy fucker and throw Sandra under the bus
2 Suggest something else

The author could have used a bit of common sense and just not made the MC a buddyfucker to start with.
Hell that's a more hated character than a stool pidgeon, even for bad guys.
He's the guy that gets busted by the cops and goes hey let me go I'll give you my friend he deals drugs.

 

[Levant]

tacm yes maybe but you are in the bad guy route with dereks quest so try to tolerat it
or not that also ok
after all i play the soocer derek route

 

[User #1751331]

tacm yes maybe but you are in the bad guy route with dereks quest so try to tolerat it
or not that also ok
after all i play the soocer derek route

Derek's quest is requirement under the good guy route as well. In short it has nothing to do with Good guy or bad guy till he made it so.
You are required 4 or 5 people to create the club. Derek happens to be one.
You may as well just stop playing the game if you don't create the club. End of story.

 

[Levant]

tacm you misunderstood me
1.to creat the club you dont need derek
(its just better if they do join the clube)
2.soccer derek route is the good guy route
sandra derek route is the bad guy route

 

[User #1751331]

tacm you misunderstood me
1.to creat the club you dont need derek
(its just better if they do join the clube)
2.soccer derek route is the good guy route
sandra derek route is the bad guy route

Derek, doesn't need to join club. interesting.
Didn't conversation between him and principle regarding it say he needed to meet conditions of club? If so though that conversation needs to be fixed. Because I think there was a part he was trying to figure out who extra person they would need to join to make 5. He was counting on him and the 3 kids he is tutoring and having to find another to make the club official. I could be mis-remembering.

The reason to make it a club was the school couldn't afford to fund it.

He also points out to her what happens when I am gone next year. You will need another person to make sure the rest stay in line.
You need someone to police them essentially.

Maybe if he used something like this

You must be registered to see the links

He could have kept things a bit more organized and flowing properly.

 

[Levant]

Derek, doesn't need to join club. interesting.
Didn't conversation between him and principle regarding it say he needed to meet conditions of club? If so though that conversation needs to be fixed. Because I think there was a part he was trying to figure out who extra person they would need to join to make 5. He was counting on him and the 3 kids he is tutoring and having to find another to make the club official. I could be mis-remembering

he needs 4 people for the clube
if derek or tamara dont join than the headmistress secretary "joins" the club
if derek and tamara dont join than the headmistress secretary and the headmistress "join" the club
to warn you the headmistress secretary and the headmistress are just place filler
and if you play past club creation you will get how unimportant it is who is in you club.....(from a game perspective)
from a fluff(story/rollplaying) perspective i shouldn't say anything as it always been a personal taste that decides it

The reason to make it a club was the school couldn't afford to fund it.

He also points out to her what happens when I am gone next year. You will need another person to make sure the rest stay in line.
You need someone to police them essentially.

yes that right but they can also say after the club is createt and billy is gone that all champions muss join the club
and also billy muss choose a club leader so if the new club leader fucks up that they can say that its billys fault
i know thats my statements are if scenario
and yours in game statements
I guess what i tray to say is the game is still in development dont holt to strong on in game statements they can change
FYI the intro has been changed 3-4 times already

Maybe if he used something like this

You must be registered to see the links

He could have kept things a bit more organized and flowing properly.

maybe

 

[User #1751331]

he needs 4 people for the clube
if derek or tamara dont join than the headmistress secretary "joins" the club
if derek and tamara dont join than the headmistress secretary and the headmistress "join" the club
to warn you the headmistress secretary and the headmistress are just place filler
and if you play past club creation you will get how unimportant it is who is in you club.....(from a game perspective)
from a fluff(story/rollplaying) perspective i shouldn't say anything as it always been a personal taste that decides it

yes that right but they can also say after the club is createt and billy is gone that all champions muss join the club
and also billy muss choose a club leader so if the new club leader fucks up that they can say that its billys fault
i know thats my statements are if scenario
and yours in game statements
I guess what i tray to say is the game is still in development dont holt to strong on in game statements they can change
FYI the intro has been changed 3-4 times already maybe

First, I get it's in development which is why in my review I chose not to really discuss this issue.
If you look I give it 3 stars not one of ZERO I do for games that are complete crap or anything.
I brought it up hear so it could be discussed hopefully it gets back to the creator.

If people don't bother to say something though he may never realize there is an issue and never change it.
The only way to ensure someone understands there is a problem is to let them know and to know why not just there is one.

That info by the way would be great in the walkthrough to let people know a bit more about the alternate path.

One question though. Your supposed to tutor them each week. So if Derek never pays attention does it effect anything?
Because that's what will happen if Derek never joins the club right?