Inoda is definitely NOT a good person but I think Inoda was supposed to be a sad loser who was trying to get a woman out of his league, like in Revenge of the Nerds. But with all the shit he has done especially in the beginning of Part 2, I am surprised the dev thought anyone did not think Inoda was a piece of shit. Maybe the dev will make Inoda to be loving person to Asuna only and a piece of shit to everyone else.
RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.45] [Fujino]
Someone who intentionally steals someone else's GF or wife, scumbag, plain and simple. But imo a "complete scumbag" would be stealing someones girl, fucking her, but then tossing her aside or passing her around to other guys once he's had his fill. That's kinda what I assume Fujino means by Inoda not being a "complete scumbag". Inoda clearly wants Asuna for himself, and doesn't want anyone else touching her. As we saw he's even holding himself back from lashing out at Kirito cuz he knows he has to play the long game if he wants Asuna to be exclusively his. There's definitely levels of scumbaggery, and Fujino is clearly not wanting Inoda to be the lowest of the low, but he clearly does view Inoda as a scumbag, just not a "complete scumbag".Even the dev wanted to portray Inoda not as a complete scumbag. Apparently he failed
This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.
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I mean, the dev has already admitted that he failed in portraying Inoda the way he intended initially.
The point is, whatever he does now in part 2 doesn't change what happened back in part 1. He could turn him into the nicest person on earth, but it would just contradict the logic set by himself for the game. imho, I think Inoda is a perfectly fine character as he was in part 1. He should either keep him that way or even build upon the scumbag narrative. There is no logical reason for changes, as Inoda has a personality with no regrets or hesitations. I would even say he is bolder now, after that rage outburst and wish of killing Kirito.
As for his relationship with Asuna, he is now even more maniacally obsessed with her, seeing her as his property after the rainy night. The whole 'nice guy' act is just because of Liz, who is more or less forcing him to play along, but he clearly hates it. Hmm, maybe he could go a weird love route with Inoda to explain why he is nicer to Asuna, but there is no buildup to that as for now, and I have a feeling that the audience wouldn't like it.
In defense of Fujino, it's much easier to depict simple good or evil characters. Going down the layers of complexity requires a fine understanding of human nature. It's his first attempt to create deeper characters, and it's fine to make mistakes.
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Fujino didn't provide a detailed description of his vision, but in general, Inoda should have been perceived as less villainous and more of a humorous character, to my understanding.
i don't know what kind of revisionist reality fujino is trying to craft and others are opining on, but why bother pretending? inoda was foaming at the mouth with hatred of kirito and raped asuna multiple times while doing all sorts of deception/manipulation.
this shit about people self-inserting as inoda is so damn stupid. if you're going to self-insert into fat ugly bastard doing multiple sleep rapes drugging/manipulating okay, but give it a fucking rest trying to pretend he's a decent person/misunderstood.
this shit about people self-inserting as inoda is so damn stupid. if you're going to self-insert into fat ugly bastard doing multiple sleep rapes drugging/manipulating okay, but give it a fucking rest trying to pretend he's a decent person/misunderstood.
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I agree with your points, but some people seem to have more flexible moral values, to put it politely. I also don't see the problem. Inoda is the antagonist or villain of the story, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. Even if it wasn't intentional, that's how he has been portrayed until now.
In fact, if you reflect on his story so far, he doesn't exhibit a single positive character trait. His best attribute is unhealthy selfishness, while everything else falls below that. That is what makes him an interesting, uncompromising antagonist with a clear goal. No need to go down the 'Inoda did nothing wrong' path? ^^
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portraying someone who literally want to steal someone's girlfriend through whatever method he can as a "not villainous guy" is just plain stupid imo...
this is an NTR story ffs, u need a villain character for that kind of story... might as well create a romance story if everyone are decent there...
portraying inoda as a stupid dude for a humour side is ok, but just becoz he is doing something stupid and looks humorous doesnt and shouldnt make him a decent guy... fujino shouldnt bother trying to make him looks like a better guy now, it will only make it weird...
this is an NTR story ffs, u need a villain character for that kind of story... might as well create a romance story if everyone are decent there...
portraying inoda as a stupid dude for a humour side is ok, but just becoz he is doing something stupid and looks humorous doesnt and shouldnt make him a decent guy... fujino shouldnt bother trying to make him looks like a better guy now, it will only make it weird...
I think there is two reasons for Fujino to do this.
1. He says a lot of people project themselves as Inoda. Personally I think he was including himself. So don't make Inoda a complete piece of shit so the people don't feel like a complete scumbag. If that is the reason, it is not a issue. As other people said people knows what kind of person the NTR bastard is. So trying to give Inoda a deep personality is unnecessary for the fans.
2. He is trying to have a in-game reason for Asuna eventually choosing him over Kirito. He has written Asuna not be a basic NTR bitch who falls immediately after experiencing NTR dick so she needs some good qualities of Inoda besides his dick to eventually leave Kirito.
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hmm
- I guess someone might want to project himself as Inoda, but I doubt Fujino himself is doing that because he could have just made Inoda the main character with basically the same story, just from another POV.
- That sounds more likely to me, but then again, the corruption of the main heroine is the main point of the game. He didn't plan to tell a cheating love story to begin with, so it's still weird^^
Honestly none of this matters at this point. Since it is still a incomplete work, it is not fair to judge the characters' actions until the story is done. Personally I hope there is a good reason for Asuna's preference for Inoda and if some bits of his character has to be changed then so be it.hmm
Honestly, I think he just messed up the gap between what he wanted to show content-wise and somewhat believable character personalities. If you have opposite extremes like purity and resilience in Asuna and total perversion in Inoda, you need to go very slow in progression; otherwise, it won't work. But the supporters seem to be against slow progression.
- I guess someone might want to project himself as Inoda, but I doubt Fujino himself is doing that because he could have just made Inoda the main character with basically the same story, just from another POV.
- That sounds more likely to me, but then again, the corruption of the main heroine is the main point of the game. He didn't plan to tell a cheating love story to begin with, so it's still weird^^
Also Inoda and Asuna is the first time in Fujino's career where he tried to create more nuanced characters. There are missteps but overall I liked them for bring uncertainty and discussion in a NTR story.
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sorry mate I found it by chance on twitter I also want to know where it is from.