Honestly, I think the saddest part is that Fujino felt so overwhelmed by the complaints after the very start of Part 2 that he legit had to make Polls and start listening to them seriously rather than just take them as guidelines...
RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.551] [Fujino]
I think considering that the typical NTR tropes or tactics have been done, it's probably just going to take a little longer. It's also using the premise of a couple that "should" have a solid relationship, thus making it harder for Asuna to fall I guess? Anyways I just think of like blackmail, hypnosis, some deus ex machina like sex spell being casted on someone, drugs, or just instant falling to big dick are like what people seem to normally see. Since Inoda hasn't really done that, it's more him getting lucky, and taking advantage of Asuna's naivety and NTR levels of stupidity (and I'm fine with that stupidity since NTR is supposed to be like that).
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Yeah, you put work into your project, but it doesn't resonate with the expectations of the supporters, that sucks; you can't ignore that either. I started playing since 0.21, so I didn't know there were complaints right at the start. Well, these kinds of things happen; you need to find a compromise
Yeah, a few of us have been here since Part 1 (Some longer, I only started lurking near the end of it), but the big thing was Fujino suddenly having to 'vanish' mid-development of Part 2 because of the issues in China, eventually deciding to outright flee the country and move to Japan. Which is why the update 0.1 felt so 'small' in most people's eyes and quite lacking in general, which was beyond understandable given what had happened to him, but a lot of people weren't satisfied, which is when the 'complaints' started, and what I actually thing was the big issue: After everything that had happened to him, Fujino probably was a bit desperate and perhaps more reliant on Patreon/Ci-En money than he had ever been back at China, so that may be when he started listening to complaints/demands from his paid sites more seriously than before and let it start affecting his development of the game, something he had never done before (In fact through Part 1 he several times refused things that even many people complained about if I recall, like the existence of the 'Cuck' Route period).
After seeing complaints and seeing reports commenting on Patreon, I think Fujino will redo some parts of this update, a lot of people were not satisfied. In fact, some parts were unnecessary, including Kirito's rape of Asuna (and her feeling pain, since she liked Inoda), but I hope that Fujino is not shaken by this and continues with her planning since before part 2. But the harsh criticism It's complicated, if only it were a criticism that this is wrong and so on, giving a suggestion, giving Fujino a better idea, but no. They want to criticize something he works on almost all day, we have to have empathy and support. In addition to giving ideas and suggestions to Fujino.
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I agree on the rape scene; it was a bad move. Such things should not be implemented without a good reason, like if it's part of a darker story. But being raped by the partner you love and then shrugging it off like it was nothing is not how you should handle such themes.
But I wouldn't like it if the whole update were remade, as I'm here for Sugu, and she finally got some awesome development in this update
Suguha and Asuna's HJ should be kept, but I would change some things there. Especially in the kitchen FOG that should Asuna and Inoda instead of Asuna's blowjob to Kirito, xD.I agree on the rape scene; it was a bad move. Such things should not be implemented without a good reason, like if it's part of a darker story. But being raped by the partner you love and then shrugging it off like it was nothing is not how you should handle such themes.
But I wouldn't like it if the whole update were remade, as I'm here for Sugu, and she finally got some awesome development in this update
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Are you talking about the Kirito content in the latest update ? If so it was a good move, now we know that Asuna not only doesn't feel anything from Kirito's tiny dick, but even with a big one she doesn't like it.
So, NTR-wise, it does wonders in my book
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Rape and pain was unnecessary, you could give him a big cock in FOG and he still would fail to pleasure her simply because he don't know how to use such a device, easy as that.Are you talking about the Kirito content in the latest update ? If so it was a good move, now we know that Asuna not only doesn't feel anything from Kirito's tiny dick, but even with a big one she doesn't like it.
So, NTR-wise, it does wonders in my book
You could even keep the scene, make Asuna even excited about it, but in the end she feels near to nothing, same result, no rape needed.
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- We already have 4 anime kirito x asuna. Why are there anyone want its here in this game.
- Left side pop up conversation is stupid idea, too fast too small cant read
The easiest way I think for him to "fix" the scene for people who are upset would be just to change the dialogue, make Kirito a bit more conscious, he pushes Asuna down on the bed, before he puts it in she consents somehow despite not really being in the mood. That way you can still have the effect of her feeling pain from his "temp" big penis.
Personally I had no problem with the scene, but if Fujino really feels like he should change it, I feel I'll be happy with whatever he comes up with.
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Did Fujino specifically reply saying he would redo parts of this update? Last time someone said that posting Chinese comments, Fujino hadn't replied anything like that and it was just copium, he had just said he would hurry up the development of some plots :O
I agree on the rape scene; it was a bad move. Such things should not be implemented without a good reason, like if it's part of a darker story. But being raped by the partner you love and then shrugging it off like it was nothing is not how you should handle such themes.
But I wouldn't like it if the whole update were remade, as I'm here for Sugu, and she finally got some awesome development in this update
See, the other issue with Asuna's 'rape' scene besides the idiocy of Asuna's reactions to it is that removing it kinda would change A LOT of things with Suguha: It was seeing Kazuto go crazy on Asuna what made her masturbate to the view and then once Asuna left apparently made her go further with him while he was unconscious, and is what made her so nervous the next day and want to try again when he was in FOG, so if Fujino just plain out removed it then important context for why Sugu reacted as she dd would be lost XP
Pretty much, yeah, the issue even as someone that didn't particularly care about the main Asuna plot is how forced her reaction was, basically "Oh no, Kirito has a bigger dick and is raping me, I don't feel anything but pain and discomfort!". It kinda thoroughly clashes with her Part 1 thoughts of how Inoda's bigger dick attracted her and how much she liked sex with him, and is clearly just there to try and enhance the NTR feeling by saying even with a big dick Inoda is better than Kirito, but the issue is that he could have indeed done it in a way that she just didn't enjoy it the same way or didn't 'feel the same', because being rough clearly wasn't an issue for Asuna when Inoda was the one fucking her.
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Bros the "Asuna's emotions have undergone a slight change..." notifications are mostly just 'flavor' now? Because there are like 10 times it pop ups and i can only go to the temple update it like, one time per update?
Or it has another way to update it that i am missing or these notifications are practically only frustrating and useless now.
I know it's not a big deal, but i liked to see the thoughts changing 'in real time'. A system like NTR Survival Z would be cool.
And honestly? Hating all Liz scenes until now hahaha, it seems there is room to corrupting her later on but right now she is insufferable.
Or it has another way to update it that i am missing or these notifications are practically only frustrating and useless now.
I know it's not a big deal, but i liked to see the thoughts changing 'in real time'. A system like NTR Survival Z would be cool.
And honestly? Hating all Liz scenes until now hahaha, it seems there is room to corrupting her later on but right now she is insufferable.
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Agree on the notifications; by the time you can go to the temple, you already forgot what triggered all the changes. A small altar near Kirito's apartment would be nice or simply just real time and let the temple be only sex stats & affection exclusive.
Unfortunately, some people don't know what a harem is, even though the MC character makes friends with female friends and loves one girl. Some people still write that the MC character dates many girls. I once read a post, Kirito shouldn't hang out with female friends when he has his girlfriend.
Once a girl wrote to me that Kirito fucks many girls because they all look at his dick. I got angry because she came up with a stupid argument and didn't want to accept my message.
Let me tell you, people will keep arguing that it's a harem because the character dates a lot of female friends.