It has a working incest patch. It doesn't have a hint of NTR(I realize that's a significant part of this games' appeal). It has randomized repeatable pregnancy and gradually changing models. Which is a much more understandable fetish. You're free to ignore most of the girls you don't like. For the most part. There's a lot more replayability. It has repeatable freeroam sex scenes.
Plus the way MC (mis)treats some of the girls even on the good path is going to be a bit much for some people. Not to mention the SS protag is easier to slip yourself into.
Summertime Saga just has a broader appeal with it being more vanilla and it's lighter tone.
The Summertime Saga town feels basically like a regular town whose women just happen to be really really horny and it serves the fantasy of the kindof shy, friendly, nerdy kid solving all the problems and getting with tons of women in the process.
While Taffy Tales's town is much darker with everyone having some dark secret. Drug addiction, drug dealing, brainwashing, sex traficking, blackmail, rape and so on and so on.
I am not saying TT needs to become lighter, that would be dumb as it has an established audience already, but it's not hard to see that Summertime Saga just has more broad appeal.
I personally like both of them for different reasons and I think it's good that these two games with fairly similar sandbox approach go in different directions in terms of appeal instead of trying to copy one another.
This is the reason why my original response to the questioner is as reasonable as any other response - and actually, possibly more so.
Both of you are making assumptions (most likely) based upon your own personal opinions - or your own biases on what other's tastes are. There is no "right" answer - only "reasonable assumptions." There are as many reasons why people prefer SS over TT as vice versa as their are people who have played either - but there is so much more to the whole equation that that.
There are game guides available from searching google for them (edit: I just googled three words: taffy tales guide - first result was a guide updated 20 October 2021). Also, this game is pretty popular in gameplay videos on adult video websites that you can also reference.
This is the reason why my original response to the questioner is as reasonable as any other response - and actually, possibly more so.
Both of you are making assumptions (most likely) based upon your own personal opinions - or your own biases on what other's tastes are. There is no "right" answer - only "reasonable assumptions." There are as many reasons why people prefer SS over TT as vice versa as their are people who have played either - but there is so much more to the whole equation that that.
I can't remember exactly which comedian said it but he had a bit about threesomes in porn. He talks about skipping a scene with more than one man but stopping to watch a lesbian scene. When his girlfriend who's watching with him calls him out on his hypocrisy he has a simple answer. 'Every straight man has a one penis per fantasy limit.' It's not a matter of masculinity. It's a simple matter of sexuality. Most people are very straight. So they're not going to going to be able to get off when more that one dick is involved. To some people it doesn't matter at all if it's optional. There are still shadows of it in the vanilla playthrough. It happens in every game that tries to make that promise. And literally every single solitary person has a sex drive because we need it to make more people. It's just much more deeply rooted in who we are.
Also, I wasn't sure about the time frame. I'm pretty new to all this all things considered. So, yeah who knows which game would be more successful if they started at the same time. But, I think you may not be giving SS enough credit for making the landscape as competitive as it is.
"just happen to be" is the key phrase. Taffytales is much more believable because the dark side of the town is explained in game because of a pharma company's drugs. You could rename Taffy Town into something like 'Racoon City' and get away with it. Even the MC's freakishly huge dick is explained by the drug experiments. Meanwhile everything in Summertime saga is completely arbitrary. The women just happen to be horny and Anon from SS just happens to also have a freakishly huge dick. Taffy Tales at least justifies its narrative
I am not actually saying that either game is better than the other - they are both on my watch list. The basis of the income of the developers is more involved than just players' personal preferences, a comedian's stand-up routine, an idea on sexuality, storyline, background, art, etc used anecdotally.
What I am saying the argument about the income of developers for games we play for free is a moot point. We play them for free. It doesn't matter what they make. If someone is concerned about the income of a developer - either financially support them if you think they aren't getting enough money or stop financially supporting them if you are but think they are making too much.
Seeing that they announced few updates back that Chantelle story will be the beginning or working on NTR content, are they still going with that plan? If so are they gonna put that in the Non-NTR route too like the last time with Mary in the gym? Or are they going to like properly do the NTR on its own route as how it should be?
Seeing that they announced few updates back that Chantelle story will be the beginning or working on NTR content, are they still going with that plan? If so are they gonna put that in the Non-NTR route too like the last time with Mary in the gym? Or are they going to like properly do the NTR on its own route as how it should be?
You should always quote an announcement so that people have a point of reference to go to. Memories are hazy and this genre is highly volatile - so it's best to be as clear as possible.
I don't see anything referring to your first question - please clarify with either a link or direct quote.
The second sounds accusatory rather than inquisitive - as if the dev maliciously fouled up something in previous update.
The third question references a mistake by the dev that was corrected quite quickly once the fanbase pointed it out.
Overall, looking at the developer's discord:
Taffy Tales currently has planned Three Major routes.
The main default route involves the MC either seducing, 'stealing', or romancing the other characters. You will not get cucked.
The second is the 'Friendship' route which involves an alliance with one of the villains of the game (Avoidable).
And the third route is 'The 'NTR route,' but this is entirely avoidable, you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again.
You should always quote an announcement so that people have a point of reference to go to. Memories are hazy and this genre is highly volatile - so it's best to be as clear as possible.
I don't see anything referring to your first question - please clarify with either a link or direct quote.
The second sounds accusatory rather than inquisitive - as if the dev maliciously fouled up something in previous update.
The third question references a mistake by the dev that was corrected quite quickly once the fanbase pointed it out.
The work is going exceptionally well, I have found a new plug-in for the game engine which is helping to speed things along nicely. I've mostly been switching between posing and creating the artwork to help move things along. (It can really burn me out just sticking to doing one too long).
Still not sure on a date yet, but I will try my very best to get a pinpoint on an estimate when I can!
Lostraven will now be working on the Chantelle script. We thought we'd talk to you about the future of Taffy Tales a little on a pretty hot button topic, (yes, that one). For too long we've left a certain portion of our fanbase in the dark on what's happening with NTR, and when it's coming, and while we've still got a longgggg way to go before it's introduction, (with Three Mega updates and our Supreme Pie update to come first), we felt it's time to finally talk about what's the plan to integrate it.
I can now confirm, the Chantelle update will bring in NTR.
WAIT WAIT! Before you throw stones at me, let me explain the plan...
The Chantelle Script is going to be a double script combined into one update, one for 'Netori' on the main route, and one for straight-up 'NTR' on the NTR Route.
It will allow on the 'main' route, the chance for players to steal Chantelle and humiliate Darnell as your conflict with him continues to spiral into chaos. It will have a heavy 'Netori' focus.
BUT, the other half of the script, will begin the NTR route (for players choosing that route). Where Darnell will 'steal' one of the girls.
So, the choice will be yours, humiliate Darnell, or be humiliated by him, Taffy Tales is all about choice, and tailoring the experience to what suits you.
You'll never be forced onto the NTR route, it's 'one choice' in-game that basically says 'Do you want to play the NTR route or not?' That is it, if you end up on the NTR route, you chose it willingly.
Well, on another note guys We have another little teaser for you guys! You know who really needs some love around here? A certain cute blonde whose more 'effeminate' than most!
As for your second point, I asked because referring to the post, the Mary and Darnell scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. I'm asking if they are any changes based on the story progression, or are they going to stick to the plan they have made earlier.
Taffy Tales currently has planned Three Major routes.
The main default route involves the MC either seducing, 'stealing', or romancing the other characters. You will not get cucked.
The second is the 'Friendship' route which involves an alliance with one of the villains of the game (Avoidable).
And the third route is 'The 'NTR route,' but this is entirely avoidable, you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again.
Yes that has been clear from the part where we chose to lie or tell the truth to the doc. That isn't my question.
I am asking if they are going with a direct Non-NTR and an NTR/Sharing route from the first choice you make in the phonecall or not. Or will the Mary and Darnell kind of choice keeps popping through the storyline as we progress.
This news from patreon regarding your first point.
As for your second point, I asked because referring to the post, the Mary and Darnell scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. I'm asking if they are any changes based on the story progression, or are they going to stick to the plan they have made earlier.
Yes that has been clear from the part where we chose to lie or tell the truth to the doc. That isn't my question.
I am asking if they are going with a direct Non-NTR and an NTR/Sharing route from the first choice you make in the phonecall or not. Or will the Mary and Darnell kind of choice keeps popping through the storyline as we progress.
Thank you! You quoted something from September 2019. The post I shared from the discord was made January 2020, so unless they change direction -- "you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again."
You're beating a nearly year old dead horse about Mary/Darnell. It was a fuck up, they admitted it, and they quickly fixed it. This is a game that is in development - hiccups happen.
As for Chantelle, directly --
In October of 2019, LostRaven stated that he had "Finished the Chantelle script" and that the "Chantelle update would be split between the two. (half main update, half NTR)." In March 2020, LostRaven stated the storyline for "Chantelle is planned after Tiffany" and that "Chantelle hasn't had sex with anyone in the game yet." In June 2020, he states that the supporters poll result showed "Danny and his sister beat Chantelle and the first NTR route" for the who gets updated before the other. There are a few other statements made by LostRaven - but not many and mainly corroborate what I have already quoted.
Based upon the September 2019 post you shared, the January 2020 Discord post and the quotes I found above, it sounds as though we still may have quite awhile to wait for the Chantelle update. When the NTR route does come - it sounds like you get asked just once and if you choose not to take that third route, you won't get asked again.
I am asking if they are going with a direct Non-NTR and an NTR/Sharing route from the first choice you make in the phonecall or not. Or will the Mary and Darnell kind of choice keeps popping through the storyline as we progress.
The phonecall decides if the NTR route is enabled or not. Going to the doc will get rid / subdue the alter ego of MC, making him the cuck.
Similarly, helping Darnell after hes bleeding in some alleyway will enable the friendship route, where you can be bros and banh hoes together (if you want).
Both NTR and friendship routes are quite far away anyway. According to polls, more patrons prefer to be chads instead of cucks, which is why the NTR content keeps getting delayed. I guess that the dev is now looking to complete the main route, and then adding the NTR and friendship.
You're beating a nearly year old dead horse about Mary/Darnell. It was a fuck up, they admitted it, and they quickly fixed it. This is a game that is in development - hiccups happen.
Feels like you're missing my point so I'm gonna say it here. I'm not doing the "NTR/Non-NTR" flamewar over here. I think you're assuming that I am and referenced this topic "is volatile" because of that. If people are bothered by a question just answer it or ignore it. Simple as that. I'm asking about Choices through the storyline. Are they going to keep showing up after you made your choice during the phonecall with the doc. I used Mary/Darnell as a reference to my question. I'm not bothered if there is NTR or Not im a game where its completely optional.
As for Chantelle, directly --
In October of 2019, LostRaven stated that he had "Finished the Chantelle script" and that the "Chantelle update would be split between the two. (half main update, half NTR)." In March 2020, LostRaven stated the storyline for "Chantelle is planned after Tiffany" and that "Chantelle hasn't had sex with anyone in the game yet." In June 2020, he states that the supporters poll result showed "Danny and his sister beat Chantelle and the first NTR route" for the who gets updated before the other. There are a few other statements made by LostRaven - but not many and mainly corroborate what I have already quoted.
Based upon the September 2019 post you shared, the January 2020 Discord post and the quotes I found above, it sounds as though we still may have quite awhile to wait for the Chantelle update. When the NTR route does come - it sounds like you get asked just once and if you choose not to take that third route, you won't get asked again.
So are they going back to the originally planned story? Choices during the phonecall and thats it? Just that one time? Because that post you mentioned plus the dead horse i dragged just make it to three times the game asked us if we want to go for NTR/Sharing path. This is why I'm a little confused.
My thought was that once you picked the choice from the phonecall was, you are commiting into a single playthrough unhindered be that NTR or Not. So that is why I'm asking since it still being prompted after making your choice. And wether or not the dev plans to change the gameplay in the future to look exactly like the other Harem or Netorare game where you get to pick and chose which girl to keep or not.
The phonecall decides if the NTR route is enabled or not. Going to the doc will get rid / subdue the alter ego of MC, making him the cuck.
Similarly, helping Darnell after hes bleeding in some alleyway will enable the friendship route, where you can be bros and banh hoes together (if you want).
Both NTR and friendship routes are quite far away anyway. According to polls, more patrons prefer to be chads instead of cucks, which is why the NTR content keeps getting delayed. I guess that the dev is now looking to complete the main route, and then adding the NTR and friendship.
Yeah I know that NTR or Harem path is from that phonecall. I didn't know helping Darnell would also be a flag to route change. Thanks for that man.
So you have to lie to doc, then leave Darnell in the ditch if you wanna play the Harem path.
Lie to doc and help Darnell for the Sharing path.
Truth to doc and help Darnell for the NTR path.
So far this is how i'm understanding it. I'm just going to assume Mary/Darnell and Chantelle choices are for the players who want to go on a Sharing path? Since we can't leave Darnell after he was being beaten up? (unless i missed some updates where you can actually leave him)
Feels like you're missing my point so I'm gonna say it here. I'm not doing the "NTR/Non-NTR" flamewar over here. I think you're assuming that I am and referenced this topic "is volatile" because of that. If people are bothered by a question just answer it or ignore it. Simple as that. I'm asking about Choices through the storyline. Are they going to keep showing up after you made your choice during the phonecall with the doc. I used Mary/Darnell as a reference to my question. I'm not bothered if there is NTR or Not im a game where its completely optional.
So are they going back to the originally planned story? Choices during the phonecall and thats it? Just that one time? Because that post you mentioned plus the dead horse i dragged just make it to three times the game asked us if we want to go for NTR/Sharing path. This is why I'm a little confused.
My thought was that once you picked the choice from the phonecall was, you are commiting into a single playthrough unhindered be that NTR or Not. So that is why I'm asking since it still being prompted after making your choice. And wether or not the dev plans to change the gameplay in the future to look exactly like the other Harem or Netorare game where you get to pick and chose which girl to keep or not.
Yeah I know that NTR or Harem path is from that phonecall. I didn't know helping Darnell would also be a flag to route change. Thanks for that man.
So you have to lie to doc, then leave Darnell in the ditch if you wanna play the Harem path.
Lie to doc and help Darnell for the Sharing path.
Truth to doc and help Darnell for the NTR path.
So far this is how i'm understanding it. I'm just going to assume Mary/Darnell and Chantelle choices are for the players who want to go on a Sharing path? Since we can't leave Darnell after he was being beaten up? (unless i missed some updates where you can actually leave him)
I think the reason for our miscommunication is that the storyline and development are not near completion. What you lay out in your supposition of the three paths sounds viable, at this time - but it could be implemented differently.
What we do know is that there is no NTR path (fleshed out except for that one premature moment in a previous update that was fixed) nor a friendship path at this time. Only the first main path. Based upon what Ashley has stated and what has been presented to date, it appears it will be a bit of time before the second and third paths are even activated (outside of the little slip up that happened earlier this year). Everything else at this time is pure conjecture and since this is a game in development, there will most likely be adjustments to the project as time goes on.
We will most likely be told by the developer when the other paths are in place and the Changelog will let us know how to trigger those paths. I would even expect that previous save files will have issues once the new paths are activated - as should always be anticipated in a game that is under development. Worrying about it now seems like much ado about nothing.
I can't remember exactly which comedian said it but he had a bit about threesomes in porn. He talks about skipping a scene with more than one man but stopping to watch a lesbian scene. When his girlfriend who's watching with him calls him out on his hypocrisy he has a simple answer. 'Every straight man has a one penis per fantasy limit.' It's not a matter of masculinity. It's a simple matter of sexuality. Most people are very straight. So they're not going to going to be able to get off when more that one dick is involved.
"most people", I guess I missed that poll, I would love to see the Stats gathered from it, (Sounds to me like "very straight" might be code for "homiphobic" and/or "insecure", so I guess it could be true for a significant percentage), personally I want to see more spit roasts and gangbangs particularly in corruption games, and what is the point in having a harem of sex slaves if you can't pimp them out from time to time (for both fun and profit). I'm curious what that makes me? Am I gay now?
PS: can anyone tell me why notifications havent been working for me on this thread, I just had to read 5 pages of posts because todays notification was the first since early december, and that was a "someone liked one of your posts" type, I'm still getting "replied to thread" notifications on other threads I'm watching, just not this one.
