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I absolutely agree! There's a sense that the main route of season 5 is somehow not quite connected to the rest of the story. I mean, there's a continuation of the story, but, for example, Clara and MC tried webcam, made a lot of money, got some fame in those circles for Clara. I don't understand why she's still working as a cleaning lady. In no way am I undervaluing the labor of janitors, it's just that in this particular game situation, the only excuse for me is to have fun with her at school. Otherwise - I don't see why you can't play up her getting fired and developing as a webcam star. And there are actually a lot of moments like that, it's just that Clara is Clara and I worry about her more than anyone else. About NTR - I see potential in it too, but:
I don't understand why they didn't capitalize on what Lostraven left behind. He's already left everything on a platter: here's a personality for NTR, just hit the MC on the head, let Penny wake up and suppress Red. That's it, and then we go from there - leave all the juicy scenes, play it off through Pennyworth and that's it - in my opinion, this would be a great NTR route. But unfortunately what we got was a lethargic MC who forgot that Red taught him all sorts of things and just sits back and watches. Well, who likes it - I'm happy for them.
Yeah, I absolutely hate that in games, when they don't follow their own continuity. Clara and the MC doing webcam could easily replace the stall masturbation as the source of income in the game, for example, just put a mini-game or a small repeatable scene in there. Yeah, that would work better than the MC just forgetting everything he learned with Red, that was what made me angrier in the NTR route, you just have to watch all the character development be thrown away in front of you. If he didn't want to put another personality, the only way to make sense of that storyline would be time travel lol.
 
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In fact, I've noticed a trend in season 5 to just give attention to those who were neglected in 1-4: Danny, Natalie, Jennifer, Tiffany. More on Sara and Maria. Plus, before Patreon's ban, Uber announced that we'll finally get to tackle Priscilla in the new update (she hasn't had sex with her once in seasons 1-4). It certainly pains me as a Clara fan to accept this, but there aren't many scenes with her because she got a lot of attention in 1-4. It's all to the point that finally the other girls are starting to get attention. And about NTR - I'm in favor of it being rewritten at all. That's my personal opinion. I don't like it as it is now. If you like it - well, then yes, the fact that it won't be updated for a long time (due to the reworking of seasons 1-4, + the next version (according to the announcements earlier, things may change) it won't be updated either) is sad.
NTR path needs to be remade. It's just awful. If anyone is interested in it don't be bothered with it. I liked the concepts like making the girls drink cum and urine in public but the execution was bad. At the very least, if Uber is going to continue from where he left off then he needs to at the very least give the 2 girls sex scene in the next update or else everything we did in the 1st part of ntr path was pointless
 

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NTR path needs to be remade. It's just awful. If anyone is interested in it don't be bothered with it. I liked the concepts like making the girls drink cum and urine in public but the execution was bad. At the very least, if Uber is going to continue from where he left off then he needs to at the very least give the 2 girls sex scene in the next update or else everything we did in the 1st part of ntr path was pointless
I agree - the scenes are great, I mean the ideas. But they're poorly acted. It seems to me that continuing to develop them in the way they are now will not change anything. The only way out I can see is for Pennyworth to wake up after some hot scene. Then I can still justify such a start. As it is, I think we need to wake Penny up right after the brick falls. And keep all those scenes, but redo the script with Penny in mind. But that's my opinion, I don't pretend to be correct.
 

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Looks like his Substar is going strong. I don't like Uber milking practices but I like the cocksuckers reporting devs to patreon less :KEK:
 
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Pennyworth doesn't appear to be for the netorare (NTR) route. It appears that personality would be more in line for the Friendship/Sharing route that has no content at this time.
I've honestly never once seen this route you're talking about. I don't feel the line between the Friendship you've described and Harry's conditional cuckoldry. But okay, let's say you're right. So it turns out we have a dominant personality, crossdresser and for Friendship? Somehow I have a bit of a problem with this, NTR seems to be quite popular, and then here comes Friendship instead. The only thing I can think of is that Uber decided to promote NTR without any personalities, but I've already written about what I think it turned out to be in the end
 
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I've honestly never once seen this route you're talking about. I don't feel the line between the Friendship you've described and Harry's conditional cuckoldry. But okay, let's say you're right. So it turns out we have a dominant personality, crossdresser and for Friendship? Somehow I have a bit of a problem with this, NTR seems to be quite popular, and then here comes Friendship instead. The only thing I can think of is that Uber decided to promote NTR without any personalities, but I've already written about what I think it turned out to be in the end
You haven't seen the route in the game because it has not been developed at this time - exactly as I said in the post you replied to "the Friendship/Sharing route that has no content at this time."
See this: #19,103
Or by friendship do you mean group scenes with, conventionally, Roger, Darnell, MC, girls?
See this: #6,762
And this: #32,314
 
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You haven't seen the route in the game because it has not been developed at this time - exactly as I said in the post you replied to "the Friendship/Sharing route that has no content at this time."
See this: #19,103
I wasn't referring to Taffy specifically, I just wasn't quite sure what you meant. But I figured it out, thanks for the link to the post.


See this: #6,762
And this: #32,314
So, I have familiarized myself with what you have attached. And to be honest, I still feel like Penny is just right for the NTR/cuckold route. I'll try to prove why:
1) Lost's post (#6,762) explicitly says: will begin the cuckold and NTR route. If anything, English is not my primary language, so if I understand correctly - these are either very closely related or the same route.
2) Further, in post #32,314 you attached just the moment of Penny's appearance and it says:
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Again, if I understand this correctly, the implication here is that Penny wants to watch what's going on, not intervene. Doesn't that remind you of exactly what we see in the current implementation of NTR?
Let me summarize: my understanding is that Sharing is when both MC and other men participate in the event, but cuck and ntr are when MC doesn't. And if my logic is correct, then Penny is just about perfect for NTR. But maybe I'm wrong, so feel free to correct me

And a couple more words about the FAQ from Discord (#19,103 ). I'm not quite sure why there is no crossdress route here. It's very clearly shown in the game, but it's not here, it's strange to me.

UPD:
I read the description of the Sharing route from the Discord FAQ again: The second is the 'Friendship' route which involves an alliance with one of the villains of the game (Avoidable).
This is exactly what I was talking about, namely the MC in alliance with some other male character. It all seems to fit
 
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but cuck and ntr are when MC doesn't. And if my logic is correct, then Penny is just about perfect for NTR. But maybe I'm wrong, so feel free to correct me
To repeat - there are planned three routes in this game:
  • The main default route involves the MC either seducing, 'stealing', or romancing the other characters. You will not get cucked.
  • The second is the 'Friendship' route which involves an alliance with one of the villains of the game (Avoidable).
  • And the third route is 'The 'NTR route,' but this is entirely avoidable, you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again.
Now, let's look at something similar:
  • Netori is a genre in which a person has sex with other people's partners (either by permission or not).
  • Netorase is a genre in which a person permits/encourages/enjoys their partner having sex with others.
  • Netorare is a genre in which the pain and hurt of jealousy and betrayal is the key factor when their partner has sex with others.
Do you see how the three routes map onto the three definitions I follow up with?

Pennyworth enjoys the idea of seeing others have sex with partners. This aligns with the concept of the Friendship route, not the NTR route.

As for the crossdressing, Uberpie does what he does they way he does even if it may not make sense to others who do. See #13 in the 90th posting of my FAQ here: 31,443 as well as see this: 31,327.
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To repeat - there are planned three routes in this game:
  • The main default route involves the MC either seducing, 'stealing', or romancing the other characters. You will not get cucked.
  • The second is the 'Friendship' route which involves an alliance with one of the villains of the game (Avoidable).
  • And the third route is 'The 'NTR route,' but this is entirely avoidable, you will be giving a very direct question in-game whether you want to enter into that route, if you say no, you will not be asked again.
Now, let's look at something similar:
  • Netori is a genre in which a person has sex with other people's partners (either by permission or not).
  • Netorase is a genre in which a person permits/encourages/enjoys their partner having sex with others.
  • Netorare is a genre in which the pain and hurt of jealousy and betrayal is the key factor when their partner has sex with others.
Do you see how the three routes map onto the three definitions I follow up with?

Pennyworth enjoys the idea of seeing others have sex with partners. This aligns with the concept of the Friendship route, not the NTR route.
You've certainly knowledgeably made me rack my brain xD Okay, if Penny is busy under another route, which, if I've got it right, will involve the MC giving his girls to others and enjoying it, then I have no idea how to improve NTR. Let's just say I don't like the way it's implemented in Taffy and have nothing to suggest.


As for the crossdressing, Uberpie does what he does they way he does even if it may not make sense to others who do. See #13 in the 90th posting of my FAQ here: 31,443 as well as see this: 31,327.
After reading what you've attached, I first want to say thank you for putting this together. Basically, if I understand correctly after everything I've read - the "NTR" in Taffy is a collection of fetishes that may not be appreciated in the "main route". Given what you have described above (highlighted in color, for which thanks separately) - I am completely confused. That is, I kind of understand what you wanted to tell me, but I came to your own conclusion in one of your posts, where you wrote that such actions on the part of UberPie confuse many people - I am not an exception.


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I didn't mean you were offending anyone by using the words cuck, or cucking, or cuckold, etc.... but that the terminology is confusing to many, including those who are English first language speakers and readers. I'll message you because now we're going way off topic.
 
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