Theboss3213

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Because a chunk of the fan base want it, and because we promised the route from the beginning. If we turned our back on it now, how could I expect people to trust our word again? It matters to me that people have complete faith in both me and Uber to deliver on what we promise as a team.
When can we expect the NTR content to be realesed? like realistically, end of the year or start of next year? Only reason i haven't joined up on Patreon yet is cause the NTR wasn't anywhere included in the update's comming out, like at all. I do respect you and Uber a lot for sticking to your promise though. Most dev's would have given up on it by now cause of the shitty hater's. Much respect!.(y)
 

lostraven

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When can we expect the NTR content to be realesed? like realistically, end of the year or start of next year? Only reason i haven't joined up on Patreon yet is cause the NTR wasn't anywhere included in the update's comming out, like at all. I do respect you and Uber a lot for sticking to your promise though. Most dev's would have given up on it by now cause of the shitty hater's. Much respect!.(y)
It won't be this year due to the size of the updates we need to get out first, but definitely next.
 

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To the Devs. Just make the game you want to make. Pandering to the masses is futile and will drive you bat shit insane in the end. No matter what you do there will be those who are displeased. From my point of view if people don't like it they should just piss off and find something they do like. I don't particularly care for NTR but I am not going to drop the game because of it even if there was no choice. The Art and the Dialog plus the premise are just to good to ignore. Even if I were not to have a choice to play the NTR I or others could just skip through the shit they don't like not like it would be the first time I or others have done that. This Debate is going no where.
This is the mentality of someone who doesn't work and pay for anything with their own money yet is still entitled.

The devs make a product for people who financially support them.

Even then people are allowed to criticise whatever the fuck they want. It doesn't help that you NTR lovers will so often resort to personal attacks. People criticizing NTR content is something you need to accept, you won't see me being entitled and attacking posters who go about how much they dislike big tits or protagonists with big dicks.
 

APoc1

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This is the mentality of someone who doesn't work and pay for anything with their own money yet is still entitled.

The devs make a product for people who financially support them.

Even then people are allowed to criticise whatever the fuck they want. It doesn't help that you NTR lovers will so often resort to personal attacks. People criticizing NTR content is something you need to accept, you won't see me being entitled and attacking posters who go about how much they dislike big tits or protagonists with big dicks.
If you had some reading comprehension you would know I said I don't particularly like NTR. I don't think you would have a clue about what I spend money on. You are clearly misunderstanding what I have said I know context is a bitch but I am not one. Exactly where was I entitled? Let me make this as clear as possible I want to see what comes from the devs I feel pandering to the mob is futile. That is my opinion. I know from experience that you can never please everyone and I am not looking to have my personnel needs met by someone else s creation. Sure it is nice when that happens , but no one gets everything they want life isn't fair right. You can make a choice , you can choose to support something that is good despite a few displeasing things or you can bail that is on you. I never said people complaining did not have a right to express their opinion but at the end of the day you have the power to spend on what you want or don't spend. Expecting the creators to pander to everyone's whim is childish and generally ends in a compromised work. Not always though. When I say to the Devs make the game you want to make , it means don't let complaints or wishes compromise your artist flare. Where in my post did I attack anyone personally. And finally all this bitching about some content that will be totally OPTIONAL is ridiculous you can opt out if you want. Why throw the baby out with the bath water. I could totally understand the complaints if it were NOT OPTIONAL but is skippable so why?
 

RedPillBlues

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I could totally understand the complaints if it were NOT OPTIONAL but is skippable so why?
Yep. What a lot of people don't understand is that from the very beginning this was meant to have a lot more cuck stuff, and that it has changed a lot in our favor. Completely getting rid of it would be betray so many people.
 
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APoc1

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Yep. What a lot of people don't understand is that from the very beginning this was mean to have a lot more cuck stuff, and that it has changed a lot in our favor. Completely getting rid of it would be betray so many people.

I was not aware that it was originally intended to be that way. I can understand disappointment in that. For me I just don't see why there has to be so much controversy about optional content regardless of which side of the debate it falls on to.

I really can't see the MC's alter ego going for the cuck rout though. So I have to wonder how much of the original idea was actually NTR I did not get the benefit of playing the early stuff I am a bit late to the game. I suspect by the structure of the MC's character there were always two routs in mind NTR and no NTR but how it was originally going to be balanced between the two I sure don't have a clue.
 

RedPillBlues

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I was not aware that it was originally intended to be that way. I can understand disappointment in that. For me I just don't see why there has to be so much controversy about optional content regardless of which side of the debate it falls on to.

I really can't see the MC's alter ego going for the cuck rout though. So I have to wonder how much of the original idea was actually NTR I did not get the benefit of playing the early stuff I am a bit late to the game. I suspect by the structure of the MC's character there were always two routs in mind NTR and no NTR but how it was originally going to be balanced between the two I sure don't have a clue.
A lot of the early game, while not being exactly NTR, was setting up really heavy for it. Back then I did have a lot to say about it, but now that that's changed, I have zero problems with the game.
 

preglovr12

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I was not aware that it was originally intended to be that way. I can understand disappointment in that. For me I just don't see why there has to be so much controversy about optional content regardless of which side of the debate it falls on to.
I can understand being upset if it's actually taking away from the main route, but it doesn't look like it will. If the NTR updates will come with non-NTR updates I don't really see much of a problem with it. Obviously I'd rather them add more girls to the main route but I know they promised an NTR route and they need to see it through.

I really can't see the MC's alter ego going for the cuck rout though. So I have to wonder how much of the original idea was actually NTR I did not get the benefit of playing the early stuff I am a bit late to the game. I suspect by the structure of the MC's character there were always two routs in mind NTR and no NTR but how it was originally going to be balanced between the two I sure don't have a clue.
From what LostRaven has said in this thread, it was A LOT more nebulous and not set up as routes. I'm assuming the original idea was much more in line with the friendship route in concept, except you weren't friends. Darnell could steal your girls and you'd try to keep them or something like that I'd guess.
 

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A lot of the early game, while not being exactly NTR, was setting up really heavy for it. Back then I did have a lot to say about it, but now that that's changed, I have zero problems with the game.
Yeah can't say I really have an issue with it either as I have said NTR is not really my thing. I am glad the NTR rout will be optional although I have to admit I will probably play part of it to see how far it goes but I will definitely not be turned on by that part in any way. More of the completionist in me , drives me to at least try it if it gets to weird for me I will just stop. Simple we all are free to make choices. ;)
 
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L1Wei

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So... i played this game for 5 hours straight, and basically finished all of it (having something around 97% of cgi's completed) and what can i say about it?

Well, it's bad. Like, almost everything besides art in this game sucks, and even art in some scenes are just so much worse than in other scenes (for example french teacher buttjob, she just looks fucking weird in it).

As of now, there's only something like 5 actual sex scenes in the game (and that's after a year of development, yikes) 2 of which are with Gerda, and 3 or so with Clara, which when you think about it from story perspective doesn't make any sense, since there's are much better girls that they could've started with, for example Becca basically starts the story (since saving her leads to mc's trauma) yet she doesn't have a sex scene even after a year of development.

And actually even those scenes that we have are mostly bad, for example Gerda's first scene should've been hot, but her husband sits in front of a bed on a chair and jerks off looking at mc fucking his wife and it's her first sex scene, it's not optional since if you want to fuck her, you HAVE to sit through 1 scene of cuckolding (even though YOU cuckold her husband, he still sits there and jerks off which honestly kind of a big turn off for me). And the sex scene? Holy fuck, what a disappointment... The point of view in this scene are from ceiling, with mc's lying ON Gerda so you don't see her body, only ass of mc. And this scene are without any animation, so this whole event are just you reading text and looking at mc's ass, what a great fucking idea.

Actually, basically most sex scenes in this game are like this, you don't get to see them from mc's POV (and when you get to, it's just too close to the bottom of the screen, so you have to remove textbox to see what's going on down there).

What i genuinely don't understand is that scene where you get to see mc fuck Gerda from behind from his POV are amazing, and her husband isn't there, so what was the problem to make a cuckolding optional? I understand that it was for story, but story is the worst thing in this game, so what's the point? I think that if this game had a lot more content like this, it would've been amazing, since you know... it's a PORN GAME and not a book.

So why is this story so bad? Well, let's start from the stupidest thing, this whole story doesn't make any sense. For example, when mc talks with Becca, he acts as if he's THE dumbest person on this planet, not understanding that she obviously likes him even when his split personality tells him that, practically screaming at him that he's dumb. And i would've been perfectly fine with that, since maybe it's because mc was bullied and has a very low self esteem, and maybe he's just a little bit dumb, but if you go and romance someone else and not Becca, mc acts perfectly fine. Maybe a little too meek, but he actually acts like a normal human being. So what's the point?

There's so much stupid stuff in this story that if i'll try to talk about all of it, it will take me a hour. For example, why would you french teacher give you money for your cum, when she's addicted to drugs, so even if there's explanation, where would she get money from? Why the fuck Darnell can do whatever he want? It's not like he has money, or any influence, so why the fuck after so much harassment and probably rape no one ever tried to get him kicked out of the school? For fucks sake, he's even in the same class as daughter of biggest contributors of this school, and you even get told repeatedly that if you harass her you will be kicked out of school, and will have to go to shittiest public school in this city, and he harasses her, so why the fuck is he still in school? What was the point of taking Harry's photos and then blackmailing him? Or what was the point of placing cams in Gerda's house? And why the fuck is there a lady neighbor that gets trained for sex by her mistress that has no content other than that, when game has almost no content?

And besides all of that even dialogues are bad. The dialogues between mc an his second personality are amazing, but other than that? Everything is really bad.

And what's with these cockblocking situations that happen in the game? There are so many of them that at some point i started imagining that artist was just tired of drawing this scene, so he shouts to the writers that he won't be finishing it, and after being asked what the fuck they were supposed to do with it, he just shouts back that they are the writers and should do their work.

And what a cool coincidence that every woman in mc's city is a submissive BDSM loving slut and mc's second personality are a BDSM loving domination freak with gigantic penis (they say in game that he is as long as horse's, but in art it looks even bigger, what the fuck). Even your ingame mother, or well, Mary, is a slut, and licks semi-dry cum from mc's underwear while masturbating. And you ingame sister, or well, Tiffany, is so submissive that when your ingame almost-comical bully Darnell tells her to show her ass to you and him in school, she does it.

As for gameplay, it's a mess too. Stats are useless, strength are just for Gerda's quest line, and other stat just grows from seeing events i guess, and does nothing. There's only few locations in this game, that open when you get to a specific point in someones quest line (for example i had quest for looking around Darnell's house, but i didn't know where his house were because i didn't get to a specific point in french teacher quest line), while actually useful ones are you home, school and shop. You don't get to choose a lot in dialogues, so mostly you just choose whichever character you want to pursue now, and just read text (and this doesn't work sometimes because you didn't get to some other character specific point in quest line, so you can't even really romance a single character)

This whole game are actually a buggy mess. I've had so many bugs that it's crazy. Sometimes choice buttons had no text on them, so i had to blindly guess, sometimes quests just disappeared and then appeared again. I even had Tiffany quest line break, or maybe it was intended, but after throwing Tiffany's ball with Beccy she threw it away, and i had to go look for in at Gerda's house, but the thing is that i had quest before this event that told me to get a rope and get Tiffany's ball, but you get Tiffany's ball by just climbing a tree, so what was the point of that rope?
 
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APoc1

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I can understand being upset if it's actually taking away from the main route, but it doesn't look like it will. If the NTR updates will come with non-NTR updates I don't really see much of a problem with it. Obviously I'd rather them add more girls to the main route but I know they promised an NTR route and they need to see it through.



From what LostRaven has said in this thread, it was A LOT more nebulous and not set up as routes. I'm assuming the original idea was much more in line with the friendship route in concept, except you weren't friends. Darnell could steal your girls and you'd try to keep them or something like that I'd guess.

See that is exactly how it felt to me the dialog and the fact that the MC had that devious alter ego in the early part of the game made it seem like he would not be able to get cucked easily I could totally see the friendship rout and Darnell being the asshat I mean Darnell is totally portrayed as an asshat. At the same time though I could see the MC's devious side totally fucking Darnell's world too. so it really is hard to say only the creator knows, and it doesn't look like they want to say. I hate to say this but they are in a tough spot I guess. They want to make money so they can keep doing something they like to do and are proably having to make choices to keep that going , that they may not totally agree with or maybe they are doing exactly what they want and are making money. Isnt that always the underlying question witrh art. Look at Hollywood only once in a while does a script writer get a script turned into a movie that was not adapted for screen. Either way I will enjoy this game.
 

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What I think will eventually happen is revamp of the beginning of the story as the new routes are added in, just to help every part connect better. I think the story has good potential and is a cut above the bog standard incest renpy story.
 

cimibibapa2

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This game have great Art but every other aspect is total crap.

To much text
Story: unlogical
H Scenes: Bad
Animations: 4 frames (if there is any)
Update Schedule: takes forever for one update
 

pothb

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Eh, 2 to 3 months isn't bad imo, considering. I can't say I really agree with you on more or less any of it but... to each their own I suppose.

It's buggy though.
 

RedPillBlues

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do we have to do a danny trap route?

I mean we could totally NOT do that... that's a valid option
I don't know why it would be forced as gay was never advertised as being on their page, and adding a single gay option just seems like a bad idea.
 
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